Why is this not being taught in Church?

[PloughBoy]

King James Bible
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

 

[Bill]

The Body of Christ is composed of the Elect that have been Baptized in the holy Ghost period. These are considered the Spiritual Jews (Chosen of God).
The knowing of the truth is what sets us free, and the truth is that if one is chosen then that one is of the elect and a member of the Body.
But you do not have a choice. If you are the elect of God he will open your eyes to see the truth of his plan in his own good time. If you are not to be a member of the elect group you will stay blinded to the truth of that plan no matter how many times a week you go to church, or tithe, or preach it is Gods choice not anyone elses. This is the Sovereignty of God. Similar to Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated before they were born to show us it is by HIS choice. He will accomplish HIS WILL on the earth as he does in Heaven and who is going to stop him?
As far as the elect are concerned I would quote Romans 11:29 "For the gifts and calling of God are WITHOUT REPENTANCE." That is to say he will not change his mind about who he has called.
I think you may be placing to much emphasis on anyones need to go tell them in the Churches what they teach is wrong. We know, but it's not up to us to go make a scene within their houses of worship, besides you'd just get thrown out, I know it's happened to me many times. When the Father wants to draw one of his own out of those houses he will provide them with revelation of truth then when they have digested that truth and seen that it is contradictory to their groups teachings they will "COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE", but until that time they will remain in a state of infancy if they truly are elect.
I refer again to the 7 letters to the 7 churches in REVELATION. There are things that must be experienced within the Church community by us all in order to tell the difference between good solid doctrine and a flat out lie. The deeds and doctrine of the Nicolaitans, Jezebels teachings, the doctrine of Balaam, etc.. and in the overcoming of these errors in what they do or preach has a reward associated with each. This is a personal issue between the Lord and his elect and will happen when he chooses for it to happen. Rev 3:19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten(correct); be zealous(for the truth) and repent." Of what you have done before you knew these truths. And especially if you knew and continued to do what he has told you not to do.

Those that do come out of her are rewarded with the HIDDEN MANNA, this is for them not those that have not come out or won't.
Those that do overcome are allowed to eat from the TREE OF LIFE, that tree contains no knowledge of good and evil just allows one to see who is really causing the world to move as it does and kills self will (carnal mind).

In saying all that I still enjoying posting here but the main focus for us all is to align with the New Covenant as well as we can and be patient for the changes that mature us be it day by day or week by week. We all grow according to HIS plan not ours. I would quote Jesus here: John 5:26-27 " For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself. And hath GIVEN HIM AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE JUDGEMENT also, because he is the Son of man."
Remember when I broke down Judgement according to the Greeks. Judgement- a separation, involving a time of crisis, which is a way of knowing. Since he has been given authority to do this I think I will try harder to not get in the way for his judgement is far superior to mine. But I do know how you feel when you discover a new truth you just can't help yourself you want to tell the world, but the world cannot receive it because it is BLINDED.
He also speaks to the fact that there are those among the Churches that claim to be spiritual Jews (The elect) but are not. Rev 3:9, 2:2, 2:9. They are there on purpose to derail you from achieving to a higher inheritance in the Lord. If you overcome what has been placed in your path then you are rewarded accordingly. The rewards spoken of in the 7 letters still apply to ALL of the ELECT today as they did nearly 2000 years ago. Find yourself within the Church that the letter is written to and seek to overcome that issue and be rewarded. Then move on to the next.

Could you please show me in scripture where it says i do not have a choice, please

 

[Bill]

The Body of Christ is composed of the Elect that have been Baptized in the holy Ghost period. These are considered the Spiritual Jews (Chosen of God).
The knowing of the truth is what sets us free, and the truth is that if one is chosen then that one is of the elect and a member of the Body.
But you do not have a choice. If you are the elect of God he will open your eyes to see the truth of his plan in his own good time. If you are not to be a member of the elect group you will stay blinded to the truth of that plan no matter how many times a week you go to church, or tithe, or preach it is Gods choice not anyone elses. This is the Sovereignty of God. Similar to Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated before they were born to show us it is by HIS choice. He will accomplish HIS WILL on the earth as he does in Heaven and who is going to stop him?
As far as the elect are concerned I would quote Romans 11:29 "For the gifts and calling of God are WITHOUT REPENTANCE." That is to say he will not change his mind about who he has called.
I think you may be placing to much emphasis on anyones need to go tell them in the Churches what they teach is wrong. We know, but it's not up to us to go make a scene within their houses of worship, besides you'd just get thrown out, I know it's happened to me many times. When the Father wants to draw one of his own out of those houses he will provide them with revelation of truth then when they have digested that truth and seen that it is contradictory to their groups teachings they will "COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE", but until that time they will remain in a state of infancy if they truly are elect.
I refer again to the 7 letters to the 7 churches in REVELATION. There are things that must be experienced within the Church community by us all in order to tell the difference between good solid doctrine and a flat out lie. The deeds and doctrine of the Nicolaitans, Jezebels teachings, the doctrine of Balaam, etc.. and in the overcoming of these errors in what they do or preach has a reward associated with each. This is a personal issue between the Lord and his elect and will happen when he chooses for it to happen. Rev 3:19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten(correct); be zealous(for the truth) and repent." Of what you have done before you knew these truths. And especially if you knew and continued to do what he has told you not to do.

Those that do come out of her are rewarded with the HIDDEN MANNA, this is for them not those that have not come out or won't.
Those that do overcome are allowed to eat from the TREE OF LIFE, that tree contains no knowledge of good and evil just allows one to see who is really causing the world to move as it does and kills self will (carnal mind).

In saying all that I still enjoying posting here but the main focus for us all is to align with the New Covenant as well as we can and be patient for the changes that mature us be it day by day or week by week. We all grow according to HIS plan not ours. I would quote Jesus here: John 5:26-27 " For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself. And hath GIVEN HIM AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE JUDGEMENT also, because he is the Son of man."
Remember when I broke down Judgement according to the Greeks. Judgement- a separation, involving a time of crisis, which is a way of knowing. Since he has been given authority to do this I think I will try harder to not get in the way for his judgement is far superior to mine. But I do know how you feel when you discover a new truth you just can't help yourself you want to tell the world, but the world cannot receive it because it is BLINDED.
He also speaks to the fact that there are those among the Churches that claim to be spiritual Jews (The elect) but are not. Rev 3:9, 2:2, 2:9. They are there on purpose to derail you from achieving to a higher inheritance in the Lord. If you overcome what has been placed in your path then you are rewarded accordingly. The rewards spoken of in the 7 letters still apply to ALL of the ELECT today as they did nearly 2000 years ago. Find yourself within the Church that the letter is written to and seek to overcome that issue and be rewarded. Then move on to the next.

Same question i gave Sue. Please show me in scripture where it says i dont have a choice

 

[Bill]

Ok Mr. Samson lol its for you in duplicate

 

[PloughBoy]

“Dark Night of the Soul”. I don’t’ care how hard “John Lacross” try to pen that. It cannot be done! You don’t have a choice Bill! You are going to “Nineveh”!!!! LOL

 

[PloughBoy]

Now, you can take the Ship route or the FISH route but you are going, Now that is what you also call “freewill” you choose! LOL

 

[PloughBoy]

Or if you want to, you can call it “one of the five points of Calvinism” it is call, “Perseverance of the Saints”
That’s is the “P” in “TULIP”. like “The Will of GOD” supersedes “the will of man” and “Thy Will [WILL] be done on earth as it is Done on Heaven”! GOD is GOOD

 

[Bill]

Now, you can take the Ship route or the FISH route but you are going, Now that is what you also call “freewill” you choose!❤ LOL

Im sorry my friend , i will not be taking either route . My path leads to Jerusalem

 

[Samson2020]

The example of Jacob and Esau is one. The example of Joseph is another. The example of God hardening the heart of Pharaoh is another.
I chose you, you did not choose me is another. The ELECT OF GOD are just that THE ELECT OF GOD. Jesus is an example in that he tells us that the Father hath Sanctified him (set him apart) and sent him into the world. Did Jesus have a choice or was it his pleasure to do the will of his Father? Lets say for a moment that you did have a choice to be part of the Elect group . Would that then make you the Elect of God or the elect of your choosing? Those that claim to be the ELECT and are not are spoken of in REV 2:9, and 3:9. I suppose these would be the group that elected themselves through their own FREE WILL and we see what happens to them. God chooses who will be a vessel to dishonor and who will be a vessel to honor. Right back to the Sovereignty of God issue. The gifts and calling of God are without repentance. We don't change his mind, he will not repent of his calling whom ever he calls.
Romans 11:7 'What then? Israel hath NOT obtained that which he seeketh for; but the ELECTION HATH OBTAINED IT, and the rest were blinded."
Blinded by who?
John 12:40 "He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them."
Blinded by who?
And if you reply Satan, you would be partially correct; however who controls him?

If anyone reading this isn't sure look at Job 1:12 "And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he has is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord." So as we see Satan was given a job to do from God with stipulation to not put forth his hand upon Job and thats what he went and did, his job. So if we say that mankind is blinded by the prince of this world it's only because God gave him that authority.
Again right back to the Sovereignty of God!

I hope that helps a little.

 

[Bill]

“Dark Night of the Soul”. I don’t’ care how hard “John Lacross” try to pen that. It cannot be done!❤ You don’t have a choice Bill! You are going to “Nineveh”!!!! LOL

I have already lived it , " the Dark night of the soul "

 

[Bill]

The example of Jacob and Esau is one. The example of Joseph is another. The example of God hardening the heart of Pharaoh is another.
I chose you, you did not choose me is another. The ELECT OF GOD are just that THE ELECT OF GOD. Jesus is an example in that he tells us that the Father hath Sanctified him (set him apart) and sent him into the world. Did Jesus have a choice or was it his pleasure to do the will of his Father? Lets say for a moment that you did have a choice to be part of the Elect group . Would that then make you the Elect of God or the elect of your choosing? Those that claim to be the ELECT and are not are spoken of in REV 2:9, and 3:9. I suppose these would be the group that elected themselves through their own FREE WILL and we see what happens to them. God chooses who will be a vessel to dishonor and who will be a vessel to honor. Right back to the Sovereignty of God issue. The gifts and calling of God are without repentance. We don't change his mind, he will not repent of his calling whom ever he calls.
Romans 11:7 'What then? Israel hath NOT obtained that which he seeketh for; but the ELECTION HATH OBTAINED IT, and the rest were blinded."
Blinded by who?
John 12:40 "He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them."
Blinded by who?
And if you reply Satan, you would be partially correct; however who controls him?

If anyone reading this isn't sure look at Job 1:12 "And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he has is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord." So as we see Satan was given a job to do from God with stipulation to not put forth his hand upon Job and thats what he went and did, his job. So if we say that mankind is blinded by the prince of this world it's only because God gave him that authority.
Again right back to the Sovereignty of God!

I hope that helps a little.

If you are saying you wish to be the Elect of God , then i will speak to the Angel who will set God's Seal on your forhead . We are always open to volunteers . Lol.

You have no idea what you are volunteering for . But it would be the toughest time as a Christian that you can possibly imagine .

So. What say you . Are you an Elect of God

 

[Bill]

The example of Jacob and Esau is one. The example of Joseph is another. The example of God hardening the heart of Pharaoh is another.
I chose you, you did not choose me is another. The ELECT OF GOD are just that THE ELECT OF GOD. Jesus is an example in that he tells us that the Father hath Sanctified him (set him apart) and sent him into the world. Did Jesus have a choice or was it his pleasure to do the will of his Father? Lets say for a moment that you did have a choice to be part of the Elect group . Would that then make you the Elect of God or the elect of your choosing? Those that claim to be the ELECT and are not are spoken of in REV 2:9, and 3:9. I suppose these would be the group that elected themselves through their own FREE WILL and we see what happens to them. God chooses who will be a vessel to dishonor and who will be a vessel to honor. Right back to the Sovereignty of God issue. The gifts and calling of God are without repentance. We don't change his mind, he will not repent of his calling whom ever he calls.
Romans 11:7 'What then? Israel hath NOT obtained that which he seeketh for; but the ELECTION HATH OBTAINED IT, and the rest were blinded."
Blinded by who?
John 12:40 "He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them."
Blinded by who?
And if you reply Satan, you would be partially correct; however who controls him?

If anyone reading this isn't sure look at Job 1:12 "And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he has is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord." So as we see Satan was given a job to do from God with stipulation to not put forth his hand upon Job and thats what he went and did, his job. So if we say that mankind is blinded by the prince of this world it's only because God gave him that authority.
Again right back to the Sovereignty of God!

I hope that helps a little.

If you remain a Christian in these next few years . Then the hardest choice you will make as a Christian will come before you . To take the mark of the beast or not

 

[Bill]

The example of Jacob and Esau is one. The example of Joseph is another. The example of God hardening the heart of Pharaoh is another.
I chose you, you did not choose me is another. The ELECT OF GOD are just that THE ELECT OF GOD. Jesus is an example in that he tells us that the Father hath Sanctified him (set him apart) and sent him into the world. Did Jesus have a choice or was it his pleasure to do the will of his Father? Lets say for a moment that you did have a choice to be part of the Elect group . Would that then make you the Elect of God or the elect of your choosing? Those that claim to be the ELECT and are not are spoken of in REV 2:9, and 3:9. I suppose these would be the group that elected themselves through their own FREE WILL and we see what happens to them. God chooses who will be a vessel to dishonor and who will be a vessel to honor. Right back to the Sovereignty of God issue. The gifts and calling of God are without repentance. We don't change his mind, he will not repent of his calling whom ever he calls.
Romans 11:7 'What then? Israel hath NOT obtained that which he seeketh for; but the ELECTION HATH OBTAINED IT, and the rest were blinded."
Blinded by who?
John 12:40 "He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them."
Blinded by who?
And if you reply Satan, you would be partially correct; however who controls him?

If anyone reading this isn't sure look at Job 1:12 "And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he has is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord." So as we see Satan was given a job to do from God with stipulation to not put forth his hand upon Job and thats what he went and did, his job. So if we say that mankind is blinded by the prince of this world it's only because God gave him that authority.
Again right back to the Sovereignty of God!

I hope that helps a little.

You are avoiding my question . Where in scripture does it say , " i have no choice "

 

[PloughBoy]

Im sorry my friend , i will not be taking either route . My path leads to Jerusalem

Bill Bill Bill, that was something like a “biblical motif” representing the WILL of God. Come out of the Sunday school classes, come up higher, These words are “Spiritual”. True “Manna” from Heaven! Grow in grace! We have a Heavenly language It is a gift from God! This is the true language.Of our people on Earth. That the natural man cannot understand. New creature, new natural and a new language “Come out from among them” what fellowship do we have at the table of demons” none!

 

[Samson2020]

Which Angel would that be Bill? Sounds like you got him taking orders from you???? HMMM??

And yes I am one of the elect as I have been sealed with the Holy Ghost, I pray in tongues, I have laid hands on the sick and they have recovered, I have cast out an unclean spirit. I have a testimony to the truth of Jesus Christ and HE gave it to me. And yes for me to die is gain I can say it and actually mean it.

I pretty much though it was implied by everything I quoted that GODS in charge not us. And to tell you the truth I think when he says " I chose you, you did not choose me." That should have been enough. And why would you want a choice? So that you could proclaim SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS, instead of salvation by grace through faith?

Ploughboys comment about Nineveh was about Jonah having no choice as we see God sent him via Whale.

As far as the MARK goes were still many years out from that. Sweden going cashless in 2023 is the first and only country to do that. So we got a ways to go before the whole world can agree to anything really, much less a world wide marking of humans. Your timelines a long ways off there.


Exactly what choice do you want to have?

 

[Bill]

Bill Bill Bill, that was something like a “biblical motif” representing the WILL of God. Come out of the Sunday school classes, come up higher, These words are “Spiritual”. True “Manna” from Heaven! Grow in grace! We have a Heavenly language❤ It is a gift from God! This is the true language.❤Of our people on Earth. That the natural man cannot understand. New creature, new natural and a new language❤ “Come out from among them” what fellowship do we have at the table of demons” none!❤

I know you were teasing me . I was in a way teasing you back . But sharing something hidden from most. Deeper clarification , you will have to talk with the Lord on .

Btw the Lord has good humor too .

Have you ever read Jonah and the Whale . ? In the end scripture states , God caused a plant to grow up in a single day to shade Jonah and sooth his ill humor.

Obviously Jonah didnt find much humor in being plucked out of the sea by a fish and spat on Ninevahs beach. Lol

 

[Bill]

Which Angel would that be Bill? Sounds like you got him taking orders from you???? HMMM??

And yes I am one of the elect as I have been sealed with the Holy Ghost, I pray in tongues, I have laid hands on the sick and they have recovered, I have cast out an unclean spirit. I have a testimony to the truth of Jesus Christ and HE gave it to me. And yes for me to die is gain I can say it and actually mean it.

I pretty much though it was implied by everything I quoted that GODS in charge not us. And to tell you the truth I think when he says " I chose you, you did not choose me." That should have been enough. And why would you want a choice? So that you could proclaim SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS, instead of salvation by grace through faith?

Ploughboys comment about Nineveh was about Jonah having no choice as we see God sent him via Whale.

As far as the MARK goes were still many years out from that. Sweden going cashless in 2023 is the first and only country to do that. So we got a ways to go before the whole world can agree to anything really, much less a world wide marking of humans. Your timelines a long ways off there.


Exactly what choice do you want to have?

I cant tell you . But even if i did you wouldnt believe. Everything is very close now and the movement of the Devil will catch like wildfire .

Pres. Trump is Gods pres. He will be reelected in a landslide vote . He already knows GOD IS WITH HIM. But he also knows his life may be forfiet .

After Pres. Trump , there will be a landslide into the darkness, unlike anything you have ever seen . Pense is not Donald Trump.

The prophet of the antichrist already sits in his place . And no one sees him.

The dominoes are set .

 

[Bill]

Which Angel would that be Bill? Sounds like you got him taking orders from you???? HMMM??

And yes I am one of the elect as I have been sealed with the Holy Ghost, I pray in tongues, I have laid hands on the sick and they have recovered, I have cast out an unclean spirit. I have a testimony to the truth of Jesus Christ and HE gave it to me. And yes for me to die is gain I can say it and actually mean it.

I pretty much though it was implied by everything I quoted that GODS in charge not us. And to tell you the truth I think when he says " I chose you, you did not choose me." That should have been enough. And why would you want a choice? So that you could proclaim SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS, instead of salvation by grace through faith?

Ploughboys comment about Nineveh was about Jonah having no choice as we see God sent him via Whale.

As far as the MARK goes were still many years out from that. Sweden going cashless in 2023 is the first and only country to do that. So we got a ways to go before the whole world can agree to anything really, much less a world wide marking of humans. Your timelines a long ways off there.


Exactly what choice do you want to have?

The Lord allowed me to choose . My heart was so set on the Ministry. He told me if i choose to be that, He would bless me and walk with me. But if i choose the path he had prepared for me , even more so . My responce " May your will be done and not mine "

 

[Samson2020]

I see, it's a private thing.

Well if God allow you to answer, can you tell me which continent does the last world power that the anti Christ arises through exist upon at the moment?

And I ask again What choice is it that you want to have part in?

 

[Samson2020]

So your saying God gave you a choice of what you wanted to do for him after he chose you as an Elect member of the Body? Kinda like do you wanna be an eye or a hand?

Can't seem to find that anywhere in Pauls writings, he always said i'll do this or that if the Lord be willing!!