I understand and thanks for the reply and compliments!
Maybe to make it a little more clearer in "laymen" terms instead of "TheologicaL TERMS"
By your title and the body of your "Thread" entitled:
“Conscience of Sins”
Romans 6:21
What fruit did you reap at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? The outcome of those things is death.
I could not rightly understand, your meaning. Whether the "Consciousness of sins is a good thing or bad thing".
For we know that The "Consciousness of Sins" is a good thing. And it is a "Alarm bell" and a "Sanctifier" and It also is a "gift" from "GOD". Now just for a reminder, I am not a "layman" but a "Theologian" in the field of "Theology Proper". So you do know, "laymen" have a great problem of understand such fields of "theological studies" and Terminologies of "the Biblical Text". and all of this is a know fact and acceptable throughout "The Catholic Church" and you understand Sir, I did not say; "The Roman Catholic Church" I said: "The Catholic Church" in which The body of "laymen ship" has "Contaminated" certain word as well by definition.
Now that "introduction" has Been Presented so that we now can return back to The Title Thread, Entitled:
"Conscience of Sins” for Clarification only.
And we Know that "The Moral Law of GOD" is good and active. for With out The Moral Law of GOD, there is no knowledge of Sin. Jesus came Not To destroy it BUT TO FULFILLED. Not to Pour the water out of the Glass but To put More WATER in. To fulfilled not to pour out. He came not To "abolish but to Fulfill"
I feel it is necessary to quote Backing up Scripture for The benefit of "The Laymen" who are observing this thread, for many may think That a Theologian of Such do not know The "translated Copied Book" of "The Original Copied Manuscript". So I will revert To the 1977 or later "NASB" as A reference.
I am doing this for the benefit of The readers. I can be so serious concerning the Biblical Text, that cannot be any type of fun in The Game. for God has Taught me so. And Crack not one smile.
The Assembly of Pastors and My Wife will declare I do not smile or joke. That is, only available to my GOD and My Children.
and to those I considered a friend. and those friends have become my friends by coming to my aid, when I lied down wounded on the road and That Corrupted Gentile, having came to me aid. And those who I Have helped have not become my friends, but they called me friend and I always warn them, I am not your friend. And I , stop there without any explanation. That is Private to my GOD. and I Love all of my Enemies. and "GOD" and The Love people describe are like "DAY and NIGHT" His Ways are not like the ways of All the people of This world. and His grace and mercy is extended to all. not some,, to all.
I 'm sorry, but I feel I must "DOT every "I" and "Tittle" and highly Professional in all of my Proclamations. In Which I can Highly do to "precise" and Theological Sound in "TRUTH". in That I was also Called. So I will introduce before Explanation. as a Art of Being kind. as if I was a "Michelangelo" Painting Pictures with all of The Tapestries"
If I may be permitted , if it can be accepted as Feasible, may I use a quote of,
"The Martin Luther King Jr." that struck me will a sense of Being when I was at a "university' that I attended in my early youth. It went like this:
“If a man is called to be a street sweeper, he should sweep streets even as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, 'Here lived a great street sweeper who did his job well."
From a teen, if I wash dishes I wash those dish so well the living or the dead could not was them any better
When I Swept the floor no one could sweep them better
when I iron my children clothes the cleaners could not press them any better
when taught them how to read the schools could not teach them better
when I taught them how to Interpreted read, the teachers could not teach them any better
When I clean the house dust tables decorated the home year after year No one could decorated a Christmas any better.
When I cook dinner and invited others, no one could cook it better.
When I cut the lawn, when I planted the flowers in The Garden, no one could plant then any better.
I got "witnesses" in Heaven and and on earth!
So here I am. "Thomas Aquinas" had his day and LORD you gave me mines, And I will give account of My Stewardship what all you gave to me. From the dish to the street to 4 bathrooms, in all you gave me. from the football team Leadership to "Okinawa Martial Arts Leadership" To Motorcycle Club Leadership, to braiding and preparing my daughters hair for school and church. and teaching my children how to pray and recite "The Lord's Prayer" and The 23rd. Division of Psalms from the time that they could speak, and the many days I was weak in mind and strength. But You kept me all of these years the years I had to work along but as The Old women of Faith, Told me to keep on Moving even if You have to walk along, you can do it a=because GOD will help you with tears in the old mothers of The Church! They do not Make the women Like that "NO MORE" The women I notice many they have Abandon Ship and Command others to do so in Honoring GOD and In Hot pursuit of what the world Calls Happiness. and Not what The Word of GOD Calls Happiness.
and Finally:
NASB 1977
“In view of this, I also do my best to maintain always a blameless conscience both before God and before men.
Hebrews 13:18
Pray for us; we are convinced that we have a clear conscience and desire to live honorably in every way.
2 Timothy 1:3
I thank God, whom
I serve with a clear conscience as did my forefathers, as I constantly remember you night and day in my prayers.
Acts 23:1
Paul looked directly at the Sanhedrin and said, "Brothers,
I have conducted myself before God in all good conscience to this day."
Romans 2:15
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts,
their conscience also bearing witness, and
their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Romans 9:1
I say the truth in Christ,
I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
And we have those who are not conscious of their sins for a good reason, I have meant and talked to many, who live and patience all kinds of sins and not bother by their openly sins and hidden sins, because they claim Jesus died for their sins, and Many Pastors To. more for than against such a display of Parading from all the places I have been from coast to coast. in The churches in all the areas I have been in for over 40 years White and Black and Hispanic churches coast to coast. And some of my colleagues has prescribe it also in "Europe Australia and greatly has affected The Christianity in Africa.
And I argue not with them, for they have many christian friends that agree with them and do the same. Have do argument with them for I am out number.
NASB 1977
How
[happy] blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!
NASB 1977
“Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and let the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and let the one who is holy, still keep himself holy.”
NASB 1977
There is a way
which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.
Romans 6:21
What fruit did you reap at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? The outcome of those things is death.
“Conscience of Sins” past and forward is also a good thing.
Or just maybe I did not quite understood you proclamation in
"Post #1" But I tried too. I will go back again and read it to again. on this date.
PloughBoy, ok I read it again. it is unsettling to me. I said to me. many may agree. and now days, everybody's have their own doctrine. about it all "GOD' JESUS" THE CHURCH" "CHRISTIANITY" "Denominations" "translations" of All kinds "translation of other translations" and All Kinds of definitions of words, and "Christian theologies" So I am just a pea in the pile. and I know it.
So if don't mind, just take my 2 cents and do as you please, it does not matter, in Reality for me! Notice I did say for me. I have no hard feelings. but you may think of me all you please, The worst you think of me concerning this, can make me more happier, than you can ever imagine.
I am PloughBoy who loves and embraces hard "Theological Criticism' concerning "the Faith that was once delivered toThe saints"
NASB 1977
Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing That You Contend Earnestly For The Faith Which Was Once For All Delivered To The Saints.
I do not wear "Armor For Nothing"
NASB 1977
1 Timothy 1:8
But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully,
Romans 7:12
So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous, and good.
2 Timothy 2:5
And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
NASB 1977
in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness, and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them,
If my conscience is accusing me, then I will repent until my conscience defends me against my enemy. whether that Enemy is "the flesh, The world or The devil" Consciences of a past or future then would be a good thing, wouldn't it, "in "Christ JESUS" or out of Christ Jesus which would lead us To The Foot of The Cross where The Blood of Christ ran down.
"Be careful, however, that your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if someone with a weak conscience"
NASB 1977
Therefore, do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward.
NASB 1977
let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an "Evil Conscience" and our bodies washed with pure water.
Your Text introduction Post into The Title thread reads as follows: In The grouping of "Sermons and Podcast"
"The Goal Of The Father For Believers Concerning Sanctification Is That: they would have “No More Conscience Of Sins” (Heb 10:2). Saints Need Not To Contemplate Their Sins Since they have been completely and permanently cleared of all the guilt of all their sins—“once for all” (Heb 10:10, 12, 14; 9:12, 28)!"
The choice of words?
Note: I know many "laymen" cannot discern the Ceremony Laws and The moral law given at Mt. Sinai. as when Translation mentions The LAW of GOD, many cannot discern The Difference as Prescribe In the New Testament translations and The Old Testament translation as well in The English language, A Known Fact. it is like riding a bike or the more you ride it the better you become in riding it and balancing it and Maneuvering it.
