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A Common Purpose

Sue J Love

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Sunday, August 23, 2015, 10:30 p.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “For Our Nation.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Revelation 17 (NASB).

The Great Harlot (vv. 1-7)

Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, “Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality.” And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality, and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered greatly. And the angel said to me, “Why do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns.

In Revelation 18 it describes for us the punishment of this great harlot. It says to those of us who are followers of Jesus Christ, “I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities” (vv. 4-5). In one sense, thus, this great harlot knows no physical boundaries, for all of God’s people are commanded here to come out of her.

This reminds me of 2 Co. 6:17 where it says, “’Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,’ says the Lord. ‘And do not touch what is unclean; and I will welcome you.’” This is in reference to not having close, intimate, and binding relationships with the people of this sinful world, because there is no fellowship between light and darkness. With regard to not being yoked together with unbelievers, the sense here is that of joining two people to a single plow, meaning that they are in sync with each other, going the same direction, and doing the same things. We are not to join in with the sinful world in their sinful and worldly activities and behaviors, their ways of thinking, and their humanistic philosophy and worldly values.

This means we should also not allow ourselves to be entertained, via TV, movies, music, the internet, and the like, by the sinful acts of the people of this world. We should not join in with or adopt the ways of this sinful world, even or most especially within the church. We should not copy their ways, but that is largely what the institutional church has done, at least here in America. So, I believe God is calling his true church to come out from and to be separate from the institutional church, which is of human origin, and which is run just like any human-based business, with the government as its head in place of Jesus Christ.

In another sense, though, this is speaking of a specific entity in a particular physical location. In the past nine years, since the Lord Jesus has been showing me these things, with regard to what is truly going on in my nation and within the world at large, he has pointed me to the US government in Washington D.C. and in New York, and has shown me the US government, and their military arm, as this harlot. If you have ever done a search on the Internet with regard to the US government, you might learn that our capital is filled with statues and monuments patterned after Greek, Roman and Egyptian gods and goddesses. You might also learn that the layout of Washington, D.C. contains many Satanic and occult symbols. You might also notice paganistic symbols in the Great Seal of our United States of America, and come to the conclusion that we are not a Christian nation, but one that was founded upon Satan, the occult, foreign gods and goddesses, and religious syncretism. So, when we, as a nation, claim to be one nation under God, it begs the question, “What god?” It appears the answer is that it is the god of our own making.

The Beast (vv. 8-13)

“The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come. Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction. The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.”

It appears that the USA was founded on the idea of the eventuality of a one-world order, i.e. that our country was somehow to be the catalyst to lead the way to this rule of the beast, which is symbolized in our Great Seal. The beast is a conglomerate of globalists who exist within various areas of power throughout the globe, i.e. such as within governments, banks, corporations, education, and the media, etc. Included within this beast is also the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg Group. It is comprised of the elite, wealthy and powerful of the world. Its goal is to bring about a totalitarian world government and one-world religion. Some people like to call this a conspiracy theory, yet we know that the Bible foretold that this would come.

“The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which will replace sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda whose ideology hails the establishment of the New World Order as the culmination of history's progress. Significant occurrences in politics and finance are speculated to be orchestrated by an unduly influential cabal that operates through many front organizations. Numerous historical and current events are seen as steps in an ongoing plot to achieve world domination through secret political gatherings and decision-making processes.” New World Order (conspiracy theory) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Consider this, though: “How could the public be so deceived? Part of the answer lies in subtle power of gradualism -- the incremental steps that function like the proverbial frog in the pot of slow-heating water. You become so used to gradual change that you hardly notice the next step.” “Hindsight helps us trace the early, incremental steps toward a world government, and we can now look back at a foundation laid by an eclectic blend of socialist visionaries, global-minded financiers, communist revolutionaries, secret societies, New Age leaders, wealthy capitalist and tax-exempt foundations primarily in Great Britain and the USA. Long before the United Nations became an official organ under socialist leadership, that early vision had spread through all the main institutions.” A Chronology of the UN: The Revolutionary Steps to Global Tyranny

A Common Purpose (vv. 14-18)

“These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”

And he *said to me, “The waters which you saw where the harlot sits, are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues. And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire. For God has put it in their hearts to execute His purpose by having a common purpose, and by giving their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled. The woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

This great harlot (prostitute) is considered to be an adulteress with whom the kings of the earth committed adultery. Adultery has to do with someone who is married to one person but who is involved in a romantic or sexual relationship with someone with whom that person is not married. Certainly much of the church of today, in particular in the west, is living in spiritual adultery because she is giving her love and devotion to humans, the government and/or to the things, values and philosophies of this sinful world over and above, or in place of her loyalty, commitment and devotion to her husband, Jesus Christ.

As well, the government of the US has forsaken her people, and she has gone after this beast, and has caused other nations (kingdoms) in this world to join in with her in her adultery, for these other kings have had to forsake their own people in order to also join in with this beast, for the beast is an authoritarian world government which has no place for any loyalties other than to it, and which has no place for independent nations, thinking or beliefs. All must come under this one-world government and religion or pay the price, but the greater price to be paid is for those who bow to this beast, for they will face eternal punishment in the fires of hell.

Right now the US reigns as queen, but for the beast to have total world domination, the US government, as with all independent (sovereign) governments, must be done away with. God will judge this great prostitute for her role in leading other kings into adultery with her, but also because she is responsible for the death of the saints of God. If you do the homework, you will see that the US (and possibly their close allies) recruits, trains and finances many terrorist organizations, including ISIS, the Taliban and Al Qaida, and for their own evil purposes, too, which is to bring about this rule of the beast, and to bring all people into submission to this New World Order. This means that the old order of things must be done away with, so that the “phoenix” can rise out of the ashes of the old order.

Yet, we don’t have to fear the rise of this beast, or the occurrence of these events as prophesied in scripture, which are sure to come, for Jesus, the Lamb, has overcome! God will never leave us or forsake us. He will give us all we need to endure these difficult times, and he will take us home one day to be with him forever. We just need to be walking in daily fellowship with our Lord, no longer living to please ourselves and our sinful flesh, but we must to be conducting our lives in agreement with and under the power and direction of the Holy Spirit within us. We need to pray for discernment to see the lies of the enemy so that we are not trapped by them, but so we can expose them.

As well, we need to know and accept the fact that faith in Jesus Christ is not just a get-out-of-jail-free card, and the promise of heaven when we die, but it means death to sin and living to righteousness. So, we need to die daily to sin and follow Jesus Christ in obedience and in surrender to his will for our lives. We need to be separate (unlike; different) from the world, because we are becoming like Jesus. We must not be yoked together with the world. And, we must love others with Christ’s love, giving of our very lives to see others go free from sin and to have eternal life with God. As well, we must be sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ by our lives and with our words so that others may be saved. Then we will be overcomers, and we will not be taken in by the tricks and lies of this beast.

For Our Nation / An Original Work / September 11, 2012

Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: we’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

 
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