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A Consideration when choosing a translation

Dylan569

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On choosing which translation in the following verse:

"For we know, brothers and sisters beloved by God, that he has chosen you," (1Thess 1:4 NRSV)
Margin: Gk brothers

"Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God." (1Thess 1:4 KJV)

"For we know, brothers so beloved by God, that He has chosen you," (1Th 1:4 Williams)

Original Strong's
"G80 adelphos a brother (literally or figuratively) near or remote"

The Williams New Testament is an English translation of the Greek New Testament published in 1937 by Charles Bray Williams, a Southern Baptist scholar and faculty member at Union University. This translation, also known as, "The New Testament in the Language of the People,"

The Williams NT is available on e-Sword, and it is Public Domain.

The NRSV is an excellent translation, if you are cautious about its feminist twist and anti-supernaturalism. The NRSV Margin notes that the Greek is actually "brothers". The Williams NT translation is close to the NRSV, but keeping with the inspired word, "brothers". While the word "brethren" is the plural of brothers, using the stronger emphasis on being specifically "male" may be important in combating the feminist influence of today. The church Elders/Bishops/Pastors are to be males and they represent the church, the head of the family is biblically to be the husband, man, the male. It is clear by context when the male headship of church and family is meant to include all members, so keeping with the literal "brothers" seems to be more accurate.

I know there will be not a single challenge to my thinking on this. LOL
 
All Bibles are good if they contain Creation, Fallen Angels, Flood, Noah and his three sons, Babel's confused languages, Exodus, the dead know nothing, Jesus, Acts and Revelation.

Many 'christians' deny creation, flood and fallen angels while Noah's descendants are an unfathomable mystery to them and Revelation is a tangled mass just like the padding our furniture is stuffed with!
 
"In the beginning the Word already was. The Word was in God’s presence, and what God was, the Word was. He was with God at the beginning, and through him all things came to be; without him no created thing came into being." (John 1:1-3 REB)

"In the beginning the Word existed; and the Word was face to face with God; yea, the Word was God Himself. He is the One who was face to face with God in the beginning. It was through Him that everything came into existence, and apart from Him not a single thing came into existence." (Joh 1:1-3 Williams)

"No one has ever seen God; the only son, Deity Himself, who lies upon His Father's breast, has made him known." (Joh 1:18 Williams)

"No one has ever seen God. It is the only Son, himself God, who is close to the Father’s heart, who has made him known." (Joh 1:18 NRSVue)
 
Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus.
“The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.” Revelation 19:14 He will set up His Kingdom on Earth for a thousand year reign.'

  • (1 Corinthians 15:24-26) 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. 26 And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.
GOD and Jesus are clearly father and son - not a split personality.
 
For those who wish to know what the foundational belief of the church is, the Apostles Creed and Nicene Creed with the scripture proofs can be read here:

The 3rd ecumenical creed of the church, the Athanasian Creed with scripture proofs can be read here:

On those web sites, you can hover the cursor over each reference and you can easily read the text.

It is typical of those who deny the Trinity either do not what it is, or intentionally misrepresent it. So, the three ecumenical creeds as viewed by the Lutherans, as well as other orthodox Christians, can be easily studied online.
 
The Catholic Encyclopedia: "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person."

If Catholics say there is no trinity it must be true!
 
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