A couple questions

[FactNLogic]

Why would god, a perfect being, be so unforgiven?

example, adam and eve were brought up in a environment with nothing bad, so how are they suppose to know the consequences of there actions? would god not realize adam and eve would not know better? would that not in turn make god, wrong?

noah's arc, if god flooded the earth, why are there still fresh water fish? would the carnivores not eat the herbivores?

has god ever talked directly to a large mass of people? why is it that god always seems to talk through a person? why would people believe the 'hear say', what if i were to say i talked to god, would you believe me?

doesnt it bother you that alot of wars are based on religion?

now for the biggest question, if god is real, who created god?

I am just trying to understand, please do not insult me or ban my account for asking legitimate questions.

 

[rizen1]

Excuse me, God with a capital "G"...thank you


God bless.

 

[Chad]

Why would god, a perfect being, be so unforgiven?

How is GOD unforgiving? Jesus is the Son of GOD who went through more physical and spiritual pain then you and I could ever comprehend. Ever! Did you not think of this before making that comment? Did you research the Bible or just grab a bunch of appealing questions from someone's blog?

example, adam and eve were brought up in a environment with nothing bad, so how are they suppose to know the consequences of there actions? would god not realize adam and eve would not know better? would that not in turn make god, wrong?

They knew because GOD designed man to understand these things. Its a default programming, understanding of who GOD is. What about warning them ahead of time? Is that not knowing ahead of time?

Genesis 3:3
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

So clearly this shows they knew ahead of time, but chose to sin against GOD and disregard His simple command. How selfish of them. They were placed in a perfect garden, perfect setting by the Creator who made them and loved them, yet they chose to disobey Him. Sounds familiar nowadays doesn't it?

noah's arc, if god flooded the earth, why are there still fresh water fish? would the carnivores not eat the herbivores?

What exactly does fresh water fish nowadays have to do with the flood in general? GOD made everything new after the Flood, so what's the difference if there are or are not fresh water fish?

has god ever talked directly to a large mass of people? why is it that god always seems to talk through a person? why would people believe the 'hear say', what if i were to say i talked to god, would you believe me?

GOD does what He chooses to do. Who is man to question His authority and His decisions? The created must not question the Creator. He spoke through Moses to Israel's slaves in Egypt at the time. That's an example. What difference would it make to you if He spoke to you directly or to the masses anyway? He's speaking, that's a blessing beyond our understanding in the first place.

doesnt it bother you that alot of wars are based on religion?

Yes, it does. Its man's fault due to his sin and pride plainly put.

now for the biggest question, if god is real, who created god?

No one and for the record, just because you cannot grasp it does not throw away this truth. GOD is the Creator, Alpha and Omega.

Considering you posted 4 OPPOSING GOD threads with a bunch of questions per thread in a matter of 5 minutes, I got the "logic" of your motives of signing up here. Its clear your not sincere about finding Jesus, only questioning GOD as if your mighty in wisdom and understanding. We'll see how you act when I respond to your ample questions in short period of time.

 

[Chad]

Even though I've closed your account due to your wolf-like obvious motives, I know your going to try to come back and harass me.

So,

Read this and try to deny the truth:

Dear Atheist

And the sticky threads in this forum, try to deny those facts.

Evidence, Prophecy, Facts - Talk Jesus

 

[aaroncam85]

Hi factnlogic, i wish to apologise on behalf of my brothers for their frosty welcome, they just feel you are just here to waist time but i feel you came on this site for a reason unkown to yourself.
In regards to your questions, they are general questions people ask i will answer to the best of my knowledge( i have been a christian just over a year). please bare with me.

example, adam and eve were brought up in a environment with nothing bad, so how are they suppose to know the consequences of there actions? would god not realize adam and eve would not know better? would that not in turn make god, wrong?

God told adam and eve not to eat from the tree, i think that would of gave them a clue that they would be in trouble if they did.

doesnt it bother you that alot of wars are based on religion?

Those wars such as the crusades are not because of religion but a misunderstanding of scripture, does it not say in the ten commandments thou shalt not murder.

now for the biggest question, if god is real, who created god?

This is a great question. if you trace back your family line at some point you have to get to a beginning and God is that beginning.

please continue to ask questions for your benefit and mine, May God bless you.

 

[lettheredeemed]

Why would god, a perfect being, be so unforgiven?

example, adam and eve were brought up in a environment with nothing bad, so how are they suppose to know the consequences of there actions? would god not realize adam and eve would not know better? would that not in turn make god, wrong?

noah's arc, if god flooded the earth, why are there still fresh water fish? would the carnivores not eat the herbivores?

has god ever talked directly to a large mass of people? why is it that god always seems to talk through a person? why would people believe the 'hear say', what if i were to say i talked to god, would you believe me?

doesnt it bother you that alot of wars are based on religion?

now for the biggest question, if god is real, who created god?

I am just trying to understand, please do not insult me or ban my account for asking legitimate questions.

It is important that you know the Lord Jesus Christ before you can truly understand the answers we would give to your questions.

ALL THIS I DID FOR THEE.

 

[rizen1]

Hi factnlogic, i wish to apologise on behalf of my brothers for their frosty welcome

There's no need for you to apologise on our behalf.
But for you to trust that every decision was led by God.
Nothing on this site is done by opinion but through prayer and spiritual guidance.

No one is merely banned for fun, there are rules and guidelines in
this Site. Its easy to judge only what you see because
we dont list the violations committed by these banned members.

 

[Chad]

Hi factnlogic, i wish to apologise on behalf of my brothers for their frosty welcome, they just feel you are just here to waist time but i feel you came on this site for a reason unkown to yourself.

You must have it all figured out don't you? Your apology on "behalf" of us is a slap in the face, an insult to our leadership and guidance by GOD, not man (you).

Had you used a little common sense and considered you don't know all the facts and violations this person did which revealed his motives, you would not have bothered apologizing on behalf of anyone else as if your holier than thou and you knew more than what I know as an administrator.

Have some respect.

 

[aaroncam85]

SORRY I did not mean to upset anyone but i dont feel you needed to get so upset we are all brothers here and your wrong in saying i think i am holier than thou, i know i am far from it, i just felt you may have been a bit hasty in cutting him off and felt maybe he needed another chance.
APOLIGIES brother.

 

[rizen1]

I understand your concern brother, but there is alot of work that comes into monitoring TJ.
There's always 2 sides of a story.

God bless.

 

[aaroncam85]

thank you for understanding next time i will be more careful
God bless you

 

[rjones]

The two special trees which God planted in the Garden of Eden symbolised a choice for Adam and Eve. The Tree of Life - represented the Life of God Himself. In it was God's nature. It offered the highest expression of life - God's love, wisdom and power. It imparted the fullness of all that God is. It symbolised Life. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil - represented independence from God. It imparted a lower expression of life - the ability to judge between right and wrong but without love to govern it. It symbolised Death. When Adam and Eve ate of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil the Spirit of God left them, they sold themselves to satan's authority and sin became their nature. It imparted a lower life-source. What they "ate" became part of them and was passed on, through them, to the generations which followed.
They experienced: Death (Gen.2:17)
Broken relationship with God ( Gen. 3:8)
Broken relationship with one another (Gen.3:12)
Self-justification (Gen.3:12-13)
Cursed life (Gen.3:16-19)
Being cut off from eternal life (Gen. 3:22-24)

If God had expressed the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil to us, we would have all been judged guilty because of our sin and rebellion against Him. He had every right to condemn us. But He didn't. Instead, He sent His Son to take the punishment we deserved so that we could go free. Even though we were in the wrong, because of His love He offers us forgiveness and a whole new life in Him. He has made the Tree of Life available to us in reality in Jesus Christ. In Christ we have "eaten" of the Tree of Life.

 

[Fellowservant]

Questions are good if we are seeking God, but if we are not our questions can become rebellious towards him. Im a returning Christian (IE a Prodical Son). So i see the love of God towards me almost daily.

As a matter of fact the bible says its the love of God the leads us to repentance. So as i said, if we are truly seeking God he will answer us, but if not, he tries us to see if we are going to betray his goodness. The saints are told to show love and follow peace with all men, as much as possible, especially to them who are of the household of faith.

God spoke to Moses but he confirmed what he said with signs and wonders, there was no doubt in thier minds after Moses spoke and God showed his power to the people. He still confirms his word with signs and wonders.

He is also a personal God just you and him, as he shows you what to do, and why. So i hope we will seek him with all our hearts, this is how you, me, us, find God.

And remember, a soft answer turns away wrath...

Adam