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ADHD and Bipolar

Zstrastwa

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Umm... I don't know for sure if this is the right location in the forum for this, please forgive me if it's not.

I have heard many times from some people that God has pity for people with mental diseases that a person is born with or anything really that's mind altering and can effect decisions.

I have ADHD and Bipolar. No, I'm not lying and no I'm not many of the people who have said they have this problem just to get meds. Thanks to people who have done that, it's now alot harder for me to get the medications I need without going through a huge process to make sure I'm not a drug dealer or addict.

1 question:

Does God speak of this exactly, somewhere in the Bible? Of handicaps? I want to read. Not being mean or something, but I want to know scriptures and such so I can see what God thinks of the situation.
 
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The bible would not use the term mental illness as that is a scientific term.
It does say God uses foolish things to confound the mighty things.
In fact there are so many instances of irony and little things making big changes that I have to think he has a sense of humor and seems to enjoy irony.
I can see 3 classes here at the moment:
#1Those born into it
#2Those who acquired it because of some action on their part
#3Those who acquired it some other way.

Science claims it is a chemical thing and the fact that chemicals help in many cases lends some credibility to their argument.
Scripture claims that it is spiritual activity.
It could well be that certain types of spiritual activity could effect chemical changes in our physiology.Many with a gift for healing have described seeing some kind of energy strangling glands in someone.

#1:For those born with handicaps it is to fulfill scripture.

John 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
John 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

The spirits seem to have levels of strength or intensity
Jesus gave us a clue about prayer for strong ones saying "this kind cannot come forth without fasting and prayer".



#2:It can be acquired by deliberate actions as in :

Deu. 28:28 The LORD will smite you with madness and with blindness and with bewilderment of heart.(in the context of disobedience)

King Saul was tormented by an evil Spirit sent by God.He acquired this after an encounter with the Spirit of God at the school of the profits.
Even after that encounter he rejected God's path and stubbornly sought his own.I doubt God needed to send it after disobedience to the word caused Gods Spirit to vacate the house it had built in Saul.
Saul's house would not stay on the market for long.A big dark anti-god spirit moved in.
Luke 11:4 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
I figure it's the same when a clean spirit vacates a house.
It's on the market.

In this case I believe God was being merciful and allowing Saul to turn back from his own ways.Saul rejected this mercy and sought relief in man's realm.

The tones of a Shepard boy's harp subdued the demonic influence.Ironically that Shepard boy became King over Israel.

#3 Other means would be brain injuries from trauma,disease
or other.

Of course science does not differentiate between clean and unclean possession/oppression.Both will get you in the mental hospital.
 
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I was not born with either disease, or so I was told. I was diagnosed with both around 7 years old. From what you're saying, you believe a mental disease is not possible? (That is what it seems to me you're saying. In no way, please believe me, am I trying to stir anger. Love always <3) That it is always spiritual, and a human brain cannot be imperfect? I take medication now, and it allows me to actually be able to concentrate, sleep properly, (my brain actually slows down now) I don't get angry at people uncontrollably for no reason... even studying God's word is easier.
 
Did you see #3?
#3 Other means brain injuries from trauma,disease
or other.
If meds help it is a chemical thing.
That does not mean it can't be prayed about.
How would modern science have treated Jesus?


1 question:

Does God speak of this exactly, somewhere in the Bible? Of handicaps? I want to read. Not being mean or something, but I want to know scriptures and such so I can see what God thinks of the situation.
This is the question I was trying to answer,it was a generic answer,I was not attempting to determine what your situation is.I do have scientific answers also but the question was what God thinks of the situation.
In no way was I pretending to know or comment about your particular situation.I read your other posts and you seemed like a person who believes "the word" more than popular opinion.
 
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Sorry friend, I confused myself and missed the last of your explination. I mixed your words accidentally and got it all wrong.
The scriptures you referenced helped a lot, I spent a while today reading and will continue when I'm not so sleepy hehe.
Thank you so much for the help.
 
Does God speak of this exactly, somewhere in the Bible? Of handicaps? I want to read. Not being mean or something, but I want to know scriptures and such so I can see what God thinks of the situation.

Hello friend, May I call you friend? The reason I call you friend is that we are both acquainted with BAD. I would gather you are very well versed on your disorder as well.

I was a full bible believing fundamental Christian when I became ‘unwell’, having to be hospitalised in an institution for my safety and the safety of others. Experiencing mania is something I can live without. Having mood fluctuations has been a constant battle of the mind. Having the Word and standing on it has relieved many, many fears and I am now at peace. It did not happen overnight as much as I had wished and prayed fervently for it to be so.

As Saul faced his demons I have had to face mine also. Believing on Jesus Christ as the answer and the cure was my driving force to become well again. I am fortunate to have an understanding family support network around me. When I say ‘well’ I mean the voices in my head abate and have that inner peace within my soul.

Being fundamental only gave me the conclusion I must be possessed with evil spirits. Everything related to being in God’s camp or you weren’t. I was very confused because I thought being born again meant you were free from the malady that presented itself before me. So I sought out the bible with vigour to find freedom.

I hope you don’t mind me sharing part of my story. You have a couple of questions and after praying felt the Lord advise me to share part of my recovery.

I sought help from professionals and pastors to try and find the answers I was looking for. I read the bible a great deal and prayed all the time for God to remove this burden from me. It was not forthcoming so once again I thought I must not be a Christian-only lip service to Him. I even thought I wanted God for the wrong reasons and that is why freedom did not come. I was always chasing something. For many years I had wrong thinking patterns which led to delusional states concerning the Kingdom of God. My sins were forgiven so why did He not remove everything from me.

There was a distinct line in my thinking and reasoning regarding the voice of God and the voices I was hearing in my head. I had bad theology which lead to an almost fantasy Christianity. I was always looking for God to do something for ME. Not once did I doubt the sovereignty of God but wondered why I had to suffer the way I did. Nothing was counted as joy in my suffering.

In reading the apostle’s words of their suffering I began to understand that to live is to experience suffering; it is how we deal with it that matters. To not suffer is to live in a fantasy land. I lived in denial for a number of years regarding my Bi-Polar. I had not come to terms with it. Once I began to see that to be whole I had to accept me as I am and begin to see me as Christ sees me. My imperfections were made perfect in God’s sight and it lessened the severity of my understanding of pain and torment and the confusion I had regarding my illness. God began to work wonders in my life since I stopped having an ulterior motive to love God.

Two parts of Scripture were of benefit to me and are still dear to me now.

[2 Tim 1:7] For God did not give us a spirit of fear but rather of power and love and self-control.

The fear relates to my inward thoughts, the power meant I was given the right to do so, the self-control was regarding my moods. I am still a work in progress and am not perfect but allowing this verse to sink in changed my thoughts indicating I was in control.

Finally, as Jesus read from Isaiah the words were like salve for the soul. I had read and heard this portion of scripture a hundred times and this time it hit a chord with me. I will finish with it. [Luke 4:18] "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to bring glad tidings to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free”.
This verse was prophesised 16 years ago for my life before I became unwell

I was poor in spirit, He released my chains of the mind, I could now see and understand the real Gospel rather than the illusionary one, and finally set me from my past which affected me greatly.

I know this is long and apologise in advance if this has been a bore and too long winded and if I am wrong then I also apologise. I tried to keep it as short as possible as I don’t post much in these forums. My Bi-Polar is still present but God’s Presence and Spirit help keep me grounded which was always what I wanted.

Peace be with you & God Bless you in your own search.
 
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Fallen! Your words reminded me so much of when people say to me (and when it's said in the bible) That its not possible too love others until you love yourself.

I believe that there are certain diseases or mental issues that are affected by the chemicals in our body. To be honest, most of our sins or even other actions are controlled by these chemicals in our body. A lot of this things we can actually barely control. It is just how our bodies operate, you can't change that. However we can fight it! Faith is the strongest emotion and feeling human beings can have. Love is obviously second (watch a movie!). So when it comes to things and situations like this, it proves 100% that we cannot do it alone. It is no action on our part, it is by the will of God that things become conquered.

So what should you do about your situation? The bottom line is that it can be controlled! How? It is as simple and putting your faith and trust into God and requesting his help with these issues. God will answer you. He will give you the mental power to control it and to calm yourself. He might even one day remove it altogether! Nothing is impossible when it comes to God. All you have to do is trust in him and ask for help. He will answer you, and sometimes in many different ways. Admit that you can't do it alone and that you need his help! God wants to do the work, all you have to do is ask him and let it happen!
 
Hahahahahahahaha what if my stubborness got so out of hand in life...
That He saw fit to charge me with these afflictions...
To say, "JAMES LISTEN TO ME!!! YOU NEED ME!!!"
hahahaha God is so awesome. <3

Humans: "You need medicine, treatment... give me your money."

God: "Love me, I'm here... I'll help... give me your LOVE and OBEDIENCE (or however it's spelled xD)."

Ok God didn't make the grammar mistake, clearly, I did. =p

Thank you fallen. Thank you, and yes call me friend. <3 Thank you too Fraction... thank everyone.
The devil kept telling me, "God can't do anything about it James... it's out of His control. Some people are just born with things that make life harder, you need medicine and..."
LEAVE ME DEVIL. Saying God can't do something to help me... pfffhhhaa!
 
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Isn't it just the greatest thing to SEE God's work in yourself?
I have told no one that I have not been taking my medicine.
Yet... I'm even more calm, collected, at ease, at peace... because I have been giving everything that possibly upsets me or even makes me happy to Jesus.
Everyone around me wouldn't believe me if I told them I hadn't been taking it. xD

PRAISE GOD! <3
 
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