advice needed

[pinkangel44]

i am confused what to do as clearly the bible tells us homosexual is a sin.I have a sister inlaw this way and to day my husband tells me we are invited to the wedding and i don,t feel i can go to give my blessing.I have tryed talking with my husband.he says it is o.k and i feel we would be going against God,s teaching.Please can any one advise me with this situation.thank you.God Bless

 

[Jehovah Jireh]

I cant give you an answer on what you should do, il let the holy spirit show you, but i can share with you that sin is sin, we humans tend to grade it, not so bad, bad, and terrible, and i suppose homosexuality comes under the terrible in human context, but with God sin is all the same he doesnt grade it.

does that mean we shouldnt go if the person is a murderer?

Is it the person you are going to see and bless or the sin?

i say this because we should hate the sin ( homosexuality ) not the person, this person is in bondage and needs prayer and deliverance, but at the same time you know in your heart its against gods word.

Can i share with you something on the same principle, i was brought up a catholic and bacame born again, my fathers father died and his funeral was in a catholic church full mass, i had thoughts that cant go its against god!
However in my instance i wasnt worshipping or taking part in the cathoilic faith, i knew where my heart lay, ( right on jesus my saviours lap ) i was there for my papa and the rest of the family.

i pray you will have the peace of god in the decision you make.

Godbless you

 

[stephen]

Show the love of Jesus Do not get involved in heated debates, that will only bring hurt and anger, and will close the door to the truth. Secondly do not focus on the behaviour, it is the heart God needs to change, then the behaviour will follow. Let the love of God shine through you. Be a blessing......

Above all pray and ask God to give you guidence as you reach out in love James 5 v 16 says "the ernest prayer of a righteous man can achieve wonderful results"

Praying for you

God Bless You

 

[Coconut]

Joh 8:1 Jesus, went to the Mount of Olives.
At daybreak he appeared again in the temple, and all the people came to him. So he sat down and began to teach them.
But the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery. After setting her before them, they said to him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the very act of adultery.
Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women to death. What do you say?"
They said this to test him, so that they might have a charge against him. But Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger.
When they persisted in questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the person among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."
Then he bent down again and continued writing on the ground.
When they heard this, they went away one by one, beginning with the oldest, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing there.
Joh 8:10 Then Jesus stood up and said to her, "Woman, where are your accusers? Hasn't anyone condemned you?"
Joh 8:11 She said, "No one, sir." Then Jesus said, "I don't condemn you either. Go home, and from now on do not sin any more."

Joh 8:12 Later on Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. The one who follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Mat 5:1 When Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a hillside and sat down. His disciples came to him, and he opened his mouth and began to teach them, saying...
"You are the light of the world. A city located on a hill can't be hidden.
People don't light a lamp and put it under a basket but on a lampstand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.
In the same way, let your light shine before people in such a way that they will see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven."

 

[beccasmom]

Pinkangel I first of all think that you should most certainly talk it over with God and your pastor. It is not our place to judge others. If you go you may have a chance to witness to someone there and lead them to the Lord. In Luke 15:10 it says "Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth. My thoughts are all over the place today sorry...I will be praying for you and your situation.

 

[blu_daisy]

I met this sweet young man when i was 26 years old and knew he was gay but there was someting very different about him. We soon became friends and I one day asked him, " there's something different about you and i can't figure it out!!!" He smiled and told me all about Jesus and introduced me to His love, peace and joy. I couldn't understand what he was feeling but i wanted it!!! Through this gay man i met the Lord....Jesus had become my Savior and my gay friend became my best friend. He has been struggling with this sin for years and has done almost everything to be free of it but backslides and falls back into it. His tests from God are difficult and i cry for him often that he be set free of this bondage.
My point being, God loves us all alike and no one is spared of sin....i became a born again Christian coz of this gay guy and just like the rest of the comments here, we must hate the sin and not the sinner. .........God works in mysterious ways!

 

[SpiritLedEd]

You are indeed in a very uncomfortable situation. However, the Bible is clear on the issue of homosexuality: "Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolators nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor HOMOSEXUAL OFFENDERS nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Cor 6:9b-10)

For you to attend that "wedding" would be to imply that you approve of the homosexual lifestyle and the social agenda of the gay community.

SLE{B}

 

[Jehovah Jireh]

You are indeed in a very uncomfortable situation. However, the Bible is clear on the issue of homosexuality: "Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolators nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor HOMOSEXUAL OFFENDERS nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Cor 6:9b-10)
For you to attend that "wedding" would be to imply that you approve of the homosexual lifestyle and the social agenda of the gay community.
SLE{B}

Spirit Led Ed, i believe it is possible to let the person know that you do not condone their so called "marriage" as in the eyes of God it aint even a marriage, and its blatenlty against his word and his plan for humanity.

You could tell them that with no comprimise, and let them know that you are there for them, make you stand on the word, tell them its wrong & that they can be delivered and show them love.

After all if we cant reach them by love, they cant be reached

WWJD ?

 

[Coconut]

Here is what God says...and I wish all christians would be more concerned with His opinion than with our own....how important am "I" anyways?

1Co 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter to stop associating with people who are sexually immoral- not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or greedy people, robbers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.
But now I am writing to you to stop associating with any so-called brother if he is sexually immoral, greedy, an idolater, a slanderer, a drunk, or a robber. With such a person you must even stop eating.
After all, is it my business to judge outsiders? You are to judge those who are inside, aren't you? God will judge outsiders. "Put that wicked man away from you."

We pat the brother or sister on the back that we know to be GREEDY, sit down and lick our fingers at thier overflowing tables, (dont even eat with them rings no bells) ...listen and join in with thier SLANDER agianst our own brethern, etc etc etc...(God bless our 'little' sins and our 'little' white lies) and sit down and pompously tell the world we cant associate with them, because it would mean we "condone" thier behaviour...and heaven forbid "I" should 'bless' those! We have such commendably high standards for those the word of God doesnt even apply too...(again GOD says its HIS busines to judge outsiders not ours) ...need He say more?

 

[Jehovah Jireh]

I think you have taken what i said out of context, No where did i say Not to associate with the person, God will judge outsiders absolutely.

There is a difference between judging them and telling them in love.

Homosexuality is clearly condemned by the Bible. It goes against the created order of God. He created Adam and then made a woman. This is what God has ordained and it is what is right. Unlike other sins, homosexuality has a severe judgment administered by God Himself.

This judgment is simple: They are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins (Romans 1:18ff). As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing. Without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance and trusting in Jesus. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation.

What should be the Christian's Response to the Homosexual?

Just because someone is a homosexual does not mean that we cannot love him (or her) or pray for him (her). Homosexuality is a sin and like any other sin, it needs to be dealt with in the only way possible. It needs to be laid at the cross, repented of, and never done again.

As a Christian, you should pray for the salvation of the homosexual the same you would any other person in sin. The homosexual is still made in the image of God -- even though he is in grave sin.
Therefore, you should show him same dignity as anyone else you come in contact with. However, this does not mean that you are to approve of their sin.

Don't compromise our witness for a socially acceptable opinion that is void of godliness.

"…For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" 2 Cor. 6:14. There is no "common ground" between light and darkness, and we should not be building bridges to find "common ground" with sin. Some bridges need to be blown up and this is certainly one of them! We are in a battle to crush the lies of Satan, not to negotiate peace with him.

Instead of building bridges to homosexuality in order to appear reasonable and kind in the eyes of the media, we need to be storming the gates of hell. That's right! This lie, like that of child killing, is being used by Satan to rob, kill, and destroy. It is our duty and privilege as Christians to demolish this stronghold, and demolish every argument and pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God (2 Cor 10:3-6).

We are not to build bridges to homosexuality; we are to totally destroy this lie by the blood of the lamb, the word of our testimony, not loving our own lives so much as to shrink from death. This is biblical love.

 

[Chad]

You are indeed in a very uncomfortable situation. However, the Bible is clear on the issue of homosexuality: "Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolators nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor HOMOSEXUAL OFFENDERS nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Cor 6:9b-10)

For you to attend that "wedding" would be to imply that you approve of the homosexual lifestyle and the social agenda of the gay community.

SLE{B}

I agree on this. Its one thing to reach out in love, and completely another to show up at the gay wedding itself which clearly shows you support the gay marriage. This is 100% wrong.

Spirit Led Ed, i believe it is possible to let the person know that you do not condone their so called "marriage" as in the eyes of God it aint even a marriage, and its blatenlty against his word and his plan for humanity.

You could tell them that with no comprimise, and let them know that you are there for them, make you stand on the word, tell them its wrong & that they can be delivered and show them love.

Not at the wedding, can't preach there. They are gay and getting married.

Do you think Jesus Christ would attend a gay marriage festival? I think not. Neither does Scripture support it. That means we should not show up there either.

 

[Jehovah Jireh]

Chad i understand clearly what you are saying, however If you have the boldness to go to a brothel to share Jesus does that mean you support prostitution 100%

 

[Chad]

Chad i understand clearly what you are saying, however If you have the boldness to go to a brothel to share Jesus does that mean you support prostitution 100%

100% or 0%, that is the way it goes. You go by what Scripture says or you do not. Its either or, not in between. I'm 100% for Christ.

Now once again, answer this question: would Jesus attend a gay marriage? Still waiting for your reply

 

[Jehovah Jireh]

No one knows, scripture does not tell us, the only way i could see Jesus go is in rightious anger like he did in the temple.

Luke 19:45 " My house will be a house of prayer but you have made it a den of robbers ".

Chad, it is a very difficult subject, as we are to have compassion for these people, but at the same time keeps Gods word.

I could never ever say Jesus would attend !

As much as my pride says this and that, please excuse my ignorance, i am still learning.

Most of all Jesus please forgive me for things i have said.

 

[Chad]

What Coconut posted before should state it well:

1 Corinthians 5:9
I wrote to you in my letter to stop associating with people who are sexually immoral- not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or greedy people, robbers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing to you to stop associating with any so-called brother if he is sexually immoral, greedy, an idolater, a slanderer, a drunk, or a robber. With such a person you must even stop eating. After all, is it my business to judge outsiders? You are to judge those who are inside, aren't you? God will judge outsiders. "Put that wicked man away from you."

 

[beccasmom]

I agree with you Chad I do not think that Jesus would attend a gay marriage. I have thought and studied on this since my last post. I do agree that it would be saying to them that you approve of their marriage by going.

 

[Coconut]

Jehovah Jireh, just to backtrack a little, my response wasnt in regards to your post, I was just posting into thin air


As for would Jesus attend a gay wedding? I would`nt say no...

Luk 15:2 But the Pharisees and the scribes kept complaining, "Jesus welcomes sinners and eats with them!"

Luk 19:7 But all the people who saw this began to complain, saying, "Jesus went to be the guest of a notorious sinner!"

Take the scripture to mean what you will, but if my sister in law was getting married,albeit a gay marriage, I would honor the invite, and attend, for estranging myself from a family member because I "disapprove" of thier choices (have seen this done in my own family) would likely only ensure they would`nt want nothing to do with me for a good long time after, if ever. If that is building a bridge between myself and the sinner, I can only pray its a replica of the bridge that Jesus built to reach you and me.

 

[Chad]

I think there is a difference between Jesus attending a gay marriage (which I personally see as approving the festival, gay marriage) and Jesus preaching to a sinner on a personal note, one on one (sitting at dinner at his/her house for example as shown in Luke 15:2).

Its a tough topic, bit tricky but may the Holy Spirit guide us all in the right direction

 

[pinkangel44]

I have struggled with this and i have to remember that the Lord saved me from the pit of hell(alcoholism)once the seed is plant God does the rest.I have never felt uncomfortable with any one if i can plant that seed and pray for that person then surely i,m not judging or admitting i,m agreeable of there way of life.just lately my friend asked me to find a long lost friend on friends reunited,she told me he teached Gods word and dedicated to his work.when i found him we were in shock as no longer was he ministrying but divorced and living with a male partner and teaching tarot.I continue to lift him up in prayer.yet he knows Gods word more than me.God bless you all.

 

[Chad]

Some more things to consider:

Luke 21:16-18
16You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers and relatives and friends, and some of you they will put to death. 17You will be hated by all for my name's sake. 18But not a hair of your head will perish.

Now in regards to the wedding, what is this gay marriage? The wedding party is a celebration of the two gay people newly married. Will you attent this to celebrate this gay marriage together out of fear to their reaction if you do not attend? Remember, they hated Jesus and they will hate us also. They may be family, but read the Scripture above and it points it clear that even family will reject Christ.

Jesus sat with sinners, but did not celebrate with them at gay festivals. He sat with them in their own homes [example] to preach to them on a personal basis.

I have an uncle who lives with his male partner, been gay for about 15 years or so. If they had a gay marriage I would never attend it nor would I care for their respnse. I care for GOD's response to my actions as a believer to witness Truth and not promote anything that GOD hates (such as homosexuality, gay marriage). I have somewhat preached to them before but it was just a casual conversation. They are hardcore catholics, the typical who do not pray to Jesus, do not read the Bible but say "look I have a Bible on the shelf".