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America's Front Lines Of Defense

Beetow

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A US Supreme Court decision ruled that Americans have a right to own guns for self
defense. However, self defense was not the founding fathers' intention.

The second Amendment provides for an armed militia; which are not professional
soldiers, rather, citizen soldiers, e.g. minute men.

Minute men were not intended to be armed with government weapons; rather,
privately owned weapons that they can grab in a moments' notice, and those
weapons have to be suitable for warfare in the event it becomes necessary to
defend America from foreign invasion, e.g. the American Revolutionary War.

Well; if China or Russia should decide to invade America; they won't do so with
shotguns and deer rifles. Professional soldiers will be coming here equipped with
large capacity AK-47's, semi automatic handguns, rocket launchers, mortars, tanks,
artillery, helicopter gunships, and high tech jet aircraft.

Our minute men will be slaughtered should they attempt to fight back without
weapons comparable to theirs.

NOTE: Assault style rifles are not the same as actual assault rifles. Assault style rifles
are not fully automatic; they're semi automatic, i.e. in order to make an assault
style rifle fire successive shots, its trigger must be pulled each time; viz: one pull,
one shot.
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Any country(ies) that invades the U.S. today, in order to be victorious will have to do so with overwhelming firepower, because behind every blade of American grass lies a rifleman. If not with firepower, then they'll have to destroy U.S. from within through the political, social, educational, economic, and media conglomerates. Oh, wait... Annie, get your guns.
 
Guns and rifles will be no use to anyone, surely and powerful strike will come from the air.

We only have took at Israel now.

A countries front line of defence must be protection from air attack, planes, missiles from them or ships, or fired from a distant land.

Speed of interception will be paramount as we see with the iron dome systems in place in Israel, but America is a far bigger country to protect with such a system.
 
Guns and rifles will be no use to anyone, surely and powerful strike will come from the air.

It's not really think kind of war here in the US right now.

They don't want to destroy cities, houses, resources. They want to destroy ideas. Free thinking. Christianity.
They want to force us to accept sin. Homosexuality, transgenderism, abortion, adultery, etc...
Not just allow it, but embrace it, love it.

Educate your kids with non traditional Judeo-Christian values. In fact it's better if you don't listen to your parents at all.
They are biased, prejudiced, and probably racist. We the government know what's best for you.
Listen to us, trust in us.
 
It's in neither China's nor Russia's best interests to destroy America so badly that
it's unfit for human habitation like the area around Chernobyl. The better way to
conquer America is like what's said in post No.4. In other words: convert
America into a commonwealth rather than a colony.

Minute men are most effective as guerilla fighters. The "blade of American grass"
mentioned in post No.2 is likely to be the scenario if one of the super powers
manages to get ashore and being moving inland. But if America's liberal extremists
have their way, our minute men will be defending their country with garden tools
and stones instead of bullets.
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It's not really think kind of war here in the US right now.

They don't want to destroy cities, houses, resources. They want to destroy ideas. Free thinking. Christianity.
They want to force us to accept sin. Homosexuality, transgenderism, abortion, adultery, etc...
Not just allow it, but embrace it, love it.

Educate your kids with non traditional Judeo-Christian values. In fact it's better if you don't listen to your parents at all.
They are biased, prejudiced, and probably racist. We the government know what's best for you.
Listen to us, trust in us.


Not just USA brother, it is like cancer everywhere, certainly in the UK.

The devil 'appears' to have domain, for a while only, he has gained control in finance, law and media, the three big influences on man.

The big concern is the ticking time bomb, teachers teaching kids, male with male, female with female is acceptable, it is lawful! Some don't know their parents, some are inside sinful relationships, kids influence kids many at an age they do not know their own sexuality. Most are more influenced to try this and that they already don't listen to their parents, many have no respect for others. It is a cesspit of wickedness.

All the things we are seeing is Anti-Christ, it will all help the anti-christ when he appears.
 
It's in neither China's nor Russia's best interests to destroy America so badly that
it's unfit for human habitation like the area around Chernobyl. The better way to
conquer America is like what's said in post No.4. In other words: convert
America into a commonwealth rather than a colony.
That is not what the Bible teaches
when the end comes - Armageddon - it will engulf the entire world and it will be the end of everything
this world will burn and the elements melt
God will only redeem the souls of the ecclesia nothing else
 
Hebrews 6:7 For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God.
6:8 But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.

2Peter 3:10 But the Lord’s day will come as a thief; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works therein shall be disclosed.
3:11 Since these things are thus all to be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy living and godliness,
3:12 looking for and hastening the presence of the day of God, by reason of which heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and elements shall melt with fervent heat? [nuclear war]
 
Rev 8:6 Now the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to blow them.
8:7 The first angel blew his trumpet, and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, and these were thrown upon the earth. And a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up,
and all green grass was burned up.
8:8 The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood.
8:9 A third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
8:10 The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.
8:11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many people died from the water, because it had been made bitter.
8:12 The fourth angel blew his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, and a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of their light might be darkened, and a third of the day might be kept from shining,
and likewise a third of the night.
8:13 Then I looked, and I heard an eagle crying with a loud voice as it flew directly overhead, “Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the earth, at the blasts of the other trumpets that the three angels are about to blow!”
 
FAQ: Doesn't the National Guard fulfill the second Amendment?

A: No.

"A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of
the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

National Guardsmen neither keep nor bear their arms. The Guard's weaponry is
typically stored in an armory under lock and key rather than on their persons or in
their homes and cars.

Also the "right" spoken of does not refer to military personnel; it refers to the
people, i.e. the citizenry, viz: civilians.

In addition: neither the police nor the Guard can be everywhere at once. They'll
allocate their resources where they decide will be most urgent, while the remainder
will be on their own. The police might even be ordered to stand down; they've done
it before.
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The 2nd Amendment is exactly what the founding fathers intended it to be: a check and balance against a tyrannical government.
 
Please compose relevant comments. This thread is about current events; rather than
future events.
Well; if China or Russia should decide to invade America; they won't do so with
shotguns and deer rifles. Professional soldiers will be coming here equipped with
large capacity AK-47's, semi automatic handguns, rocket launchers, mortars, tanks,
artillery, helicopter gunships, and high tech jet aircraft.

Oh sorry I did not know that Russia and China had already invaded the U.S.A. and that you were posting about current events :worried:
 
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FAQ: Do activists like Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and Montana Freemen, etc. qualify
as militia?

A: No.

The second Amendment calls for a well regulated militia.

Webster's defines "regulate" as

1» To govern or direct according to rule

2» To bring under the control of law or constituted authority

3» To make regulations for or concerning

In other words: the militia spoken of in the second Amendment is not supposed to
take the law into its own hands, rather, expected to conduct itself legally, i.e. within
the bounds of the law and subject to higher powers, e.g. mayors, chiefs of police,
governors, Presidents, and ranking U.S. military officers.

In addition, the purpose of the second Amendment's militia is the security of a free
State. In other words: national defense.

Some of the mobs, looters, rioters, occupiers, and protestors I've seen of late have
not been conducting themselves lawfully, nor submissive to higher powers, nor is
their agenda in any way devoted to national defense, i.e. foreign invasion.

NOTE: Cosmetic identifiers like "Social Justice" and "Civil Disobedience" are merely
sophisticated labels for camouflaging what used to be commonly known as mob
rule.
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FAQ: Do activists like Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and Montana Freemen, etc. qualify
as militia?

A: No.

The second Amendment calls for a well regulated militia.

Webster's defines "regulate" as

1» To govern or direct according to rule

2» To bring under the control of law or constituted authority

3» To make regulations for or concerning

In other words: the militia spoken of in the second Amendment is not supposed to
take the law into its own hands, rather, expected to conduct itself legally, i.e. within
the bounds of the law and subject to higher powers, e.g. mayors, chiefs of police,
governors, Presidents, and ranking U.S. military officers.

In addition, the purpose of the second Amendment's militia is the security of a free
State. In other words: national defense.

Some of the mobs, looters, rioters, occupiers, and protestors I've seen of late have
not been conducting themselves lawfully, nor submissive to higher powers, nor is
their agenda in any way devoted to national defense, i.e. foreign invasion.

NOTE: Cosmetic identifiers like "Social Justice" and "Civil Disobedience" are merely
sophisticated labels for camouflaging what used to be commonly known as mob
rule.
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"the purpose of the second Amendment's militia is the security of a free State. In other words: national defense."

What about fighting against a tyrannical government? The colonies were fighting their very own sovereign governing authority, a tyrant-run government. The 2A wasn't put their for hunting and sport shooting; it was the founding father's vision that what they did might one day need redoing. What happens when a communist marxist becomes U.S. President, and Congress is dominated by leftist dems, and the wholesale confiscation of firearms begins? What then? You gonna just roll over because your governing atheist authority invokes Romans 13 and says you have no choice?
 
What about fighting against a tyrannical government?

I hear what you're saying Jerry, but I seriously think it's wrong to construe the
second Amendment to mean that American citizens can keep and bear arms so
they can go to war against their own government.
What happens when a communist marxist becomes U.S. President, and Congress
is dominated by leftist dems,

As it is, that can only happen by ballot, viz: if the Marxists win, it will be because a
very large number of Americans prefer them and their ideology running the
country.
and the wholesale confiscation of firearms begins? What then? You gonna just roll
over because your governing atheist authority invokes Romans 13 and says you
have no choice?

I expect to comply even if they don't invoke the 13th of Romans; and though
circumstances won't be ideal, I'll try and make the most of it.

One thing I would really miss is the internet; but you know what? Americans were
at one time getting by without the internet before the net came along, and I
suspect Americans will manage to get by without it again if they have to.
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I hear what you're saying Jerry, but I seriously think it's wrong to construe the
second Amendment to mean that American citizens can keep and bear arms so
they can go to war against their own government.


As it is, that can only happen by ballot, viz: if the Marxists win, it will be because a
very large number of Americans prefer them and their ideology running the
country.
That is exactly what the 2 amendment is about . Only by ballot? Do you really trust the internet to be honest .
 
I hear what you're saying Jerry, but I seriously think it's wrong to construe the
second Amendment to mean that American citizens can keep and bear arms so
they can go to war against their own government.


As it is, that can only happen by ballot, viz: if the Marxists win, it will be because a
very large number of Americans prefer them and their ideology running the
country.


I expect to comply even if they don't invoke the 13th of Romans; and though
circumstances won't be ideal, I'll try and make the most of it.

One thing I would really miss is the internet; but you know what? Americans were
at one time getting by without the internet before the net came along, and I
suspect Americans will manage to get by without it again if they have to.
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What preceded the adoption of the 2A and the Bill of Rights, the U.S. Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, and the war with the British Crown?

For your reading pleasure, I give you the Declaration of Independence:

"In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,


When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Georgia

Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall
George Walton

North Carolina
William Hooper
Joseph Hewes
John Penn

South Carolina
Edward Rutledge
Thomas Heyward, Jr.
Thomas Lynch, Jr.
Arthur Middleton

Massachusetts
John Hancock

Maryland
Samuel Chase
William Paca
Thomas Stone
Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia
George Wythe
Richard Henry Lee
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Harrison
Thomas Nelson, Jr.
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Carter Braxton

Pennsylvania
Robert Morris
Benjamin Rush
Benjamin Franklin
John Morton
George Clymer
James Smith
George Taylor
James Wilson
George Ross

Delaware
Caesar Rodney
George Read
Thomas McKean

New York
William Floyd
Philip Livingston
Francis Lewis
Lewis Morris

New Jersey
Richard Stockton
John Witherspoon
Francis Hopkinson
John Hart
Abraham Clark

New Hampshire
Josiah Bartlett
William Whipple

Massachusetts
Samuel Adams
John Adams
Robert Treat Paine
Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island
Stephen Hopkins
William Ellery

Connecticut
Roger Sherman
Samuel Huntington
William Williams
Oliver Wolcott

New Hampshire
Matthew Thornton
 
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