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Are there true church? I want show what is around me.

Stylez4Christ

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I don’t believed that the Bible is for people who are not born again Christian.
Why! Well, is because the person who walk in the flesh is not going to read it with the help from the most high God, it is also not a book to read like a novel, is a revelation book, a powerful spirituals book. This is why for example, Catholic, Atheist, Muslim or whatever a person religion is going to debate with errors of arguments because all they do is talk trash nothing but wind coming of there mouth.
Ephesians 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

We have Christians nowadays where they deny the power of God because in 2 Timothy 3:5 it says that having a form of godliness but denying its power, see now a person can be Godly but denying the power of God is not of God. That bring me to an example of speaking in tongues and I recognize to the fact that Christians nowadays can be racist because we have people that says, well I’m Baptist and I don’t speak in tongues so that means I can’t hang with you or another example, a person can say well I am Pentecostal and you wear pants and I wear skirts so that mean I can’t hang with you.

I’m not saying that is very comment but it dose happen in real life. So I see that Christian look like bunch of gangs or something??? See, don’t get offended that I said Christian are like gangs because is true but at the same time it is just a illustration. But back to I was saying about speaking in tongues, and I do have a questions to Christians that those who don’t believed in speaking in tongues, let me show you what 1 Corinthians 13 has to do with, has nothing to do with the speaking of tongues accept on verse 8-10 but it dose explain that tongues will stop, but it has to do with charity in a Greek word for agape known as LOVE so now you see that is simple to understand. As I see on verse 10 it says perfect, those gifts will stop when the Son returns “the perfect“!
Man, people put confusion to that kind of situation.

All I’m saying is that debating and listening to what one man saying putting every Christens to a debate but sadly it is the truth and this is why you have different denominations and separation.

1 Corinthians 12:20
But now are they many members, yet but one body.
So, where is the true church of God?



Ephesians 4:2-16

2With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
3Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
 
Christian are like gangs

No offense taken, I like to call denominations designer labels. We sometimes get caught up defending the label, forgetting Jesus is what matters.
 
Well, if you know much about gangs and then denominations, well they to have some example to what they like.. Like for example you have a black church a white church or a Hispanic church but when you look at it that way, but then like some churches have some very strick dress code and that too is like a street gang because in a gang there colors and simple to rep to what group you belong to.. Some of there preaching is not always from the word of God. So this what is a man made traditional churches is.. Thats why I heard some people complain there is a 2 faces in the church nowadays where people is going to look at you because of not following that traditions..
 
We have Christians nowadays where they deny the power of God because in 2 Timothy 3:5 it says that having a form of godliness but denying its power, see now a person can be Godly but denying the power of God is not of God. That bring me to an example of speaking in tongues and I recognize to the fact that Christians nowadays can be racist because we have people that says, well I’m Baptist and I don’t speak in tongues so that means I can’t hang with you or another example, a person can say well I am Pentecostal and you wear pants and I wear skirts so that mean I can’t hang with you.

I don't know if this is towards me, but I want to clear some things up. I don't deny the power of God at all. I truly believe people did those miracles in the Bible. I believe that those were signs for the Jews, because the Jews required a sign.

1 Corinthians 1:22
"For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:" KJV


Think about what God told Moses to do with the rod. Moses used the rod to do signs. All through the first of the Bible, the Jews were showed signs. Consider all those signs Moses showed the people.

Exodus 4:17
"And thou shalt take this rod in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs." KJV

Exodus 4:30
"And Aaron spake all the words which the LORD had spoken unto Moses, and did the signs in the sight of the people." KJV


Remember when Paul had the thorn in the flesh? Was healing used then? God told Paul, His grace was sufficient. Today we have the Bible and we can see the things done in the Bible. I don't need any signs to believe in God. I have the full truth of God and I believe every bit of it, but in its true context. All of the Bible is for us, but not all of it is to us. There is a story about building an ark, but does that mean we are suppose to build an ark? I don't think so.

Also I want to let you know, no matter who you are, I love you. Just because we don't believe exactly the same, doesn't mean I think any less of you. If you truly believe in Jesus Christ, you're saved and thats the bottom line. So if you want to speak in tongues, go ahead. I won't think any less of you or anyone else that does. God Bless you
 
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I don't know if this is towards me, but I want to clear some things up. I don't deny the power of God at all. I truly believe people did those miracles in the Bible. I believe that those were signs for the Jews, because the Jews required a sign.

1 Corinthians 1:22
"For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:" KJV


Think about what God told Moses to do with the rod. Moses used the rod to do signs. All through the first of the Bible, the Jews were showed signs. Consider all those signs Moses showed the people.

Exodus 4:17
"And thou shalt take this rod in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs." KJV

Exodus 4:30
"And Aaron spake all the words which the LORD had spoken unto Moses, and did the signs in the sight of the people." KJV


Remember when Paul had the thorn in the flesh? Was healing used then? God told Paul, His grace was sufficient. Today we have the Bible and we can see the things done in the Bible. I don't need any signs to believe in God. I have the full truth of God and I believe every bit of it, but in its true context. All of the Bible is for us, but not all of it is to us. There is a story about building an ark, but does that mean we are suppose to build an ark? I don't think so.

Also I want to let you know, no matter who you are, I love you. Just because we don't believe exactly the same, doesn't mean I think any less of you. If you truly believe in Jesus Christ, you're saved and thats the bottom line. So if you want to speak in tongues, go ahead. I won't think any less of you or anyone else that does. God Bless you

Cody2, what scriptures indicate that the bible is the full truth of God??? That is like saying that God has nothing new to tell us.
Also all scripture is beneficial to us for more than a history lesson.
2Timothy3:16&17
16*All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It straightens us out and teaches us to do what is right. 17*It is God’s way of preparing us in every way, fully equipped for every good thing God wants us to do.
 
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God has told us the truth. Now it is our jobs to accept the truth or not. Yes the word of God teaches and is the full truth. I agree.
 
God has told us the truth. Now it is our jobs to accept the truth or not. Yes the word of God teaches and is the full truth. I agree.
I believe it is full of truth but I don't believe it is the full truth.
 
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