Artificial Insemination

[dannibear]

Before exams started, I was completing course work online,
when the same two girls in the class tried to challenge my
faith again. They asked me many questions in front of the class
about artificial insemination, and said that many Christians
thought it was a sin, and that Christians thought
women who can't have a baby should die without children, etc.
I never really researched the topic, nor thought about it before,
and told them I didn't have an opinion on it and would get back
with them on it later.

From what I know, artificial insemination is using donated
***** when the man either cannot produce any
*****, or is carrying a genetic disease which he does not
wish to pass on to any children.It is used especially
when the woman is infertile and wants to try for a baby.
What is it that sparks the debate for this? The fact
that it isn't the natural way to have a baby that God
designed?

 

[HisFollower]

Whatsoever changes the natural use into that which is against nature, another words man made methods is sin, and we are without excuse. Truly to the world the secular can justify any thing they want to do under the sun, but it is not so with God; and in the end He shall have the final word, not men.

 

[agua]

I can't see how artificial insemination is a sin. It seems no different than receiving a transplant. imo

 

[Peace Seeker]

I agree with agua. God is the creator and giver of everything, which includes doctors. Doctors didn't give themselves to us, God gave them to us, for our benefit.
He has provided us everything we need for good health, and to say we shouldn't get help from a doctor is to say God does not provide for us and wants us to suffer with sickness. Plus, why would God be against a ***** uniting with an egg? There's nothing artificial about that! :wink:

 

[Kit Carson]

Gods word does not address many things. So simply do not add to it.
He does tell us knowledge will greatly increase, but does not say it is a sin to gain this knowledge.

Great advancements in the last 50 years have been accomplished in the medical field. God took the gifts of the spirit and let them die due to mans wish to show his own importance and to corrupt them. God is not the author of a dog and pony show like Benny Hinn conducts. So he gives us medicine and advancements in knowledge.

You will see the argument presented that to conduct artificial insemination is a selfish act. That one should adopt a child if one cannot have a child in a natural manner. But this is not selfish actually as a woman does wish the child to be a part of her and when born the joy and bonding creates that lifelong bond that us husbands have to fight against when we pound sand in that boys ears. Of course we spoil the daughter. Lol! So anyway I do not see anything wrong with this at all.

Some will say you are playing God. I considered this and decided God controls all and provides all and if he did not wish this to occur he would never have allowed it to begin with. Genetic research and many things are providing great benefits to many, from skin grafts and even a new method to grow skin cells to cause a burn victim to have normal skin. In the future body organ grown may even become possible.

But I think God will never allow humans to be cloned. He will throw a stumbling block into that one. Just my opinion.

So I think to have a child by artificial insemination is fine, it is not selfish just what all women desire. If they are financially able later to adopt another that is fine too.

I saw one preacher once say that to take an egg from an unknown donor and place in a woman is committing adultery. Really, come on, it is an egg. I simply had to laugh at that one.

So do not allow the fears of man, the assumptions of man to control you. Men are slow to adjust, slow to accept, full of fear and have not accepted the joy of Christ and his grace. They still wish to live by the law. To condemn all things and live in fear.

Anyway I do not see anything wrong with using the things that God does make known and available. The knowledge that God says will increase is provided by God.

I thought I would come back and add this, my wife put me up to it. Lol! She says to ask you all where did Jesus come from. Was this not an supernatural event, as would have been understood at the time? So did God plant an egg?? I got so tickled because it is such a simple statement and shows the truth of it all. She is good at that sometimes.

Kit

 

[Donnie]

What is it that sparks the debate for this? The fact
that it isn't the natural way to have a baby that God
designed? [/FONT]

I am not aware that there is a debate about artificial insemination at all.
But then again, I only pay attention casually.

 

[dannibear]

I thought I would come back and add this, my wife put me up to it. Lol! She says to ask you all where did Jesus come from. Was this not an supernatural event, as would have been understood at the time? So did God plant an egg?? I got so tickled because it is such a simple statement and shows the truth of it all. She is good at that sometimes.

Kit

That is cute! And quite clever. I laughed too.
A valid point though, tell her thanks for that.

 

[dannibear]

I am not aware that there is a debate about artificial insemination at all.
But then again, I only pay attention casually.

I casually watch the news, and there will be some stories
about Christians and atheists protesting about whether
gay marriage should or should not be ok, artificial insemination,
euthanization, etc. I just honestly had no opinion on this
subject and found it hard to find any legit verses for anything.
I wasn't discouraged though, I knew that process didn't exist
to my knowledge when Jesus was alive.

 

[dannibear]

I can't see how artificial insemination is a sin. It seems no different than receiving a transplant. imo

True. Very true. I am glad I posted this question.
I am not only gaining knowledge, but seeing great
illustrations and comparisons as well. Everyday
I am learning something new.

 

[JEM]

I really really like your question. Too many Christians just regurgitate what they've heard other Christians say.

Believe me, as a woman who intends on doing IVF, that there is a lot of debate over this issue.

I'm going to paste what I wrote on a different thread. It speaks to the more common arguments against IVF.

"What birth doesn't God initiate? Yes, if God did not initiate it, it is wrong but I believe God is sovereign and therefore this cannot happen.

If the Bible does not speak to something directly it is our responsibility to find out God's heart on the specific matter. I assume every Christian with the IVF decision in front of them has spent copious amounts of time seeking God's will through prayer, reading the Bible, and in wise counsel as we have since being told in Jan. 2011 that IVF was our only physical chance. Now I 100% believe it is God's will that I do IVF and that if our IVF results in a baby it will be His decision.

God does not need our help to make something happen but yet we understand modern medicine to be a gift. We're not helping God by using medicine, we're utilizing one of His awesome gifts. Again, whatever medical/healthcare decisions we choose or whatever physical resources we us it is God who decides their outcome.

On our end, we must have faith in Jesus and humble ourselves before His throne. We humble ourselves partially by accepting His gifts, salvation, relationship, medicine/healthcare, etc. When we do so we can be assured that His will be done in our lives if we pray so."

 

[farout]

IFV is very, very expensive, and often fails. Christians have debated this and both sides have very valid points. Those choosing to use IVF and those who reject it often both say they prayed about it and felt it was the will of the Lord. Its hard to make a clear statement that is always true for every couple.

Scripture, some will say does not address this subject. However I would say that any time a wife has some other mans ***** introduced into her egg, and results in IVF, that can cause real issues later on. IVF is not something to be considered without seriously thinking about the many complications that can result.

IVF is an area that medical ethics and christian ethics struggle with, and I for one am glad the tension is there.

 

[californiasun]

i think the biggest concern with IVF is what happens to the leftover embryos after the couple has successfully conceived? destroying them/using them for research is the equivalent of abortion.