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Cherubpuff

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So last night I was watching tim conway speak on Christians judging others on youtube on the illbehonest channel. It was entitled "Should Christians Judge - Tim Conway".

I've listened to many of his messages and have been moved more by some others but for some reason I felt as if I needed to pray after watching this- not so much because I judge people but because of some underlying message's which were brought up.

I started to think of the error/sin in my life which I commit and prayed to God asking for help and the response I received from the time I woke up and throughout the day has me in great distress.

He told me "Anathema". It was in my head all day and I never really knew the meaning until i got home from work and looked it up.

Now I'm freaking out...I know as followers of Christ we need to "die to the world" but Im having a terribly hard time dieing to everything. Im not sure if its because I listen to a lot of music or I watch many youtube videos about atheists viewing their opinions.

Earlier this year I repented of the most powerful sins that were consuming me. they no longer have power over me..But after receiving
this word Im seriously worried.

I don't have the power to die to everything in this world. Im not even sure if thats what He was telling me to do.

Should I now question if I'm really saved? The fact that I'm even asking that question implies that I'm probably not.
Please pray for me.
 
Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.



Conviction is of God and is to be embraced as a sign that God is still working in your life. Condemnation, fear, doubt- these are attacks from the enemy of your soul and to be rejected. God will never leave you nor forsake you.
Many times God uses what we consider to be failure and backsliding to bring us to a place of true repentance and dependence on Him alone. This is what is going on in your life now.
You are in my prayers my friend.
Many blessings in Jesus Name, your brother Larry.
 
Cherub, I have not seen that particular video, but I would strongly advise any young Christian (or old) to not be listening to or reading the material out there, without first grounding themselves in Scripture. This very lack of grounding in the scripture is a good part of the reason for the mass confusion of teachings in the religious world.

Listen to what Paul says to Timothy:

BBE 1Ti 1:2 To Timothy, my true child in the faith: Grace, mercy, peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
1Ti 1:3 It was my desire, when I went on into Macedonia, that you might make a stop at Ephesus, to give orders to certain men not to put forward a different teaching,
1Ti 1:4 Or to give attention to stories and long lists of generations, from which come questionings and doubts, in place of God's ordered way of life which is in faith;
1Ti 1:5 But the effect of the order is love coming from a clean heart, and a knowledge of what is right, and true faith:
1Ti 1:6 From which some have been turned away, giving themselves to foolish talking;
1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law, though they have no knowledge of what they say or of the statements which they make so certainly.

And this is what Christ says to everyone, including you:

BBE Joh 6:37 Whatever the Father gives to me will come to me; and I will not send away anyone who comes to me.
Joh 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my pleasure, but the pleasure of him who sent me.
Joh 6:39 And this is the pleasure of him who sent me, that I am not to let out of my hands anything which he has given me, but I am to give it new life on the last day.
Joh 6:40 This, I say, is my Father's pleasure, that everyone who sees the Son and has faith in him may have eternal life: and I will take him up on the last day.


Eph 2:1 And to you did he give life, when you were dead through your wrongdoing and sins,
Eph 2:2 In which you were living in the past, after the ways of this present world, doing the pleasure of the lord of the power of the air, the spirit who is now working in those who go against the purpose of God;
Eph 2:3 Among whom we all at one time were living in the pleasures of our flesh, giving way to the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and the punishment of God was waiting for us even as for the rest.
Eph 2:4 But God, being full of mercy, through the great love which he had for us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead through our sins, gave us life together with Christ by grace you have salvation,
Eph 2:6 So that we came back from death with him, and are seated with him in the heavens, in Christ Jesus;
Eph 2:7 That in the time to come he might make clear the full wealth of his grace in his mercy to us in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:8 Because by grace you have salvation through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is given by God:
Eph 2:9 Not by works, so that no man may take glory to himself.



Blessings
 
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I had a very hard time praying to Christ before I went to sleep. I wasn't really sure what to say.

Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure where I would stand right now if you had not replied.

Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.



Conviction is of God and is to be embraced as a sign that God is still working in your life. Condemnation, fear, doubt- these are attacks from the enemy of your soul and to be rejected. God will never leave you nor forsake you.
Many times God uses what we consider to be failure and backsliding to bring us to a place of true repentance and dependence on Him alone. This is what is going on in your life now.
You are in my prayers my friend.
Many blessings in Jesus Name, your brother Larry.

Thank you Larry.
It's just very hard for me to deal with this when God himself said that.
It was blunt, very unexpected and hurt.

Cherub, I have not seen that particular video, but I would strongly advise any young Christian (or old) to not be listening to or reading the material out there, without first grounding themselves in Scripture. This very lack of grounding in the scripture is a good part of the reason for the mass confusion of teachings in the religious world.

Listen to what Paul says to Timothy:

BBE 1Ti 1:2 To Timothy, my true child in the faith: Grace, mercy, peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
1Ti 1:3 It was my desire, when I went on into Macedonia, that you might make a stop at Ephesus, to give orders to certain men not to put forward a different teaching,
1Ti 1:4 Or to give attention to stories and long lists of generations, from which come questionings and doubts, in place of God's ordered way of life which is in faith;
1Ti 1:5 But the effect of the order is love coming from a clean heart, and a knowledge of what is right, and true faith:
1Ti 1:6 From which some have been turned away, giving themselves to foolish talking;
1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law, though they have no knowledge of what they say or of the statements which they make so certainly.

And this is what Christ says to everyone, including you:

BBE Joh 6:37 Whatever the Father gives to me will come to me; and I will not send away anyone who comes to me.
Joh 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my pleasure, but the pleasure of him who sent me.
Joh 6:39 And this is the pleasure of him who sent me, that I am not to let out of my hands anything which he has given me, but I am to give it new life on the last day.
Joh 6:40 This, I say, is my Father's pleasure, that everyone who sees the Son and has faith in him may have eternal life: and I will take him up on the last day.


Eph 2:1 And to you did he give life, when you were dead through your wrongdoing and sins,
Eph 2:2 In which you were living in the past, after the ways of this present world, doing the pleasure of the lord of the power of the air, the spirit who is now working in those who go against the purpose of God;
Eph 2:3 Among whom we all at one time were living in the pleasures of our flesh, giving way to the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and the punishment of God was waiting for us even as for the rest.
Eph 2:4 But God, being full of mercy, through the great love which he had for us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead through our sins, gave us life together with Christ by grace you have salvation,
Eph 2:6 So that we came back from death with him, and are seated with him in the heavens, in Christ Jesus;
Eph 2:7 That in the time to come he might make clear the full wealth of his grace in his mercy to us in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:8 Because by grace you have salvation through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is given by God:
Eph 2:9 Not by works, so that no man may take glory to himself.


Blessings

Coconut,
The verses are encouraging as well. Thanks.
I'm going to be reading more of His word. it's something I've been very stubborn about doing.

As for Tim Conway and the video-I watched it again last night to see what possessed me come before God and I couldn't find anything that message he spoke that pertained to any shortcoming in my faith.

I believe Tim is a very Godly man and would never twist or pervert the meanings behind the scriptures. if there is evidence contrary please post back. And if you have time, search his name at youtube and judge for yourself.

Thank you.
 
It's just very hard for me to deal with this when God himself said that. It was blunt, very unexpected and hurt.

If I am discerning this correctly (and I believe I am) that was not the voice of God condemning you. The enemy of your soul has but one real goal, to drive any wedge he can between you and your God.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
 
May This Help

So last night I was watching tim conway speak on Christians judging others on youtube on the illbehonest channel. It was entitled "Should Christians Judge - Tim Conway".

I've listened to many of his messages and have been moved more by some others but for some reason I felt as if I needed to pray after watching this- not so much because I judge people but because of some underlying message's which were brought up.

I started to think of the error/sin in my life which I commit and prayed to God asking for help and the response I received from the time I woke up and throughout the day has me in great distress.

He told me "Anathema". It was in my head all day and I never really knew the meaning until i got home from work and looked it up.

Now I'm freaking out...I know as followers of Christ we need to "die to the world" but Im having a terribly hard time dieing to everything. Im not sure if its because I listen to a lot of music or I watch many youtube videos about atheists viewing their opinions.

Earlier this year I repented of the most powerful sins that were consuming me. they no longer have power over me..But after receiving
this word Im seriously worried.

I don't have the power to die to everything in this world. Im not even sure if thats what He was telling me to do.

Should I now question if I'm really saved? The fact that I'm even asking that question implies that I'm probably not.
Please pray for me.
I would like to quote you some scipture that may be of some help I myself have struggled with the same thoughts before. The scriptures come from the King James Version, 2 Corinthians 2 chapter verse 17 an 18, myself they were of great help, I applied them to my life, and done my best to seperate myself from the world. It is hard to do and we are not perfect. My prayers are with you.
(17)..Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate saith the Lord; and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
(18)..And I will be a Father unto you and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith The Lord Almighty...
I pray these words will help you and bless you my friend. I find promise and comfort in them. Put them to your heart and God will bless you.
PS You may want to start with verse 11 an study the rest of the chapter which ends with verse 18. Please pray over these words before you read them that God will open your eyes an heart to accept them. I have a peace about your situation that all will be ok. God Bless You, an Peace Be With You..........
 
If I am discerning this correctly (and I believe I am) that was not the voice of God condemning you. The enemy of your soul has but one real goal, to drive any wedge he can between you and your God.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

I suppose you may be correct. I just had no idea God would allow such a blatant attack to occur.
Most of what I have received from God, whether it be a vision or a test of temptation, has been when I was asleep or put into an altered state of consciousness.

I would like to quote you some scipture that may be of some help I myself have struggled with the same thoughts before. The scriptures come from the King James Version, 2 Corinthians 2 chapter verse 17 an 18, myself they were of great help, I applied them to my life, and done my best to seperate myself from the world. It is hard to do and we are not perfect. My prayers are with you.
(17)..Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate saith the Lord; and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
(18)..And I will be a Father unto you and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith The Lord Almighty...
I pray these words will help you and bless you my friend. I find promise and comfort in them. Put them to your heart and God will bless you.
PS You may want to start with verse 11 an study the rest of the chapter which ends with verse 18. Please pray over these words before you read them that God will open your eyes an heart to accept them. I have a peace about your situation that all will be ok. God Bless You, an Peace Be With You..........

Thanks friend . I will do so.
 
I suppose you may be correct. I just had no idea God would allow such a blatant attack to occur. Most of what I have received from God, whether it be a vision or a test of temptation, has been when I was asleep or put into an altered state of consciousness.
1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:


Sometimes we are tried daily my friend and that is not a bad thing but each time a chance to trust God all the more. God works all for good .
The One who loves you most, the One whop sent His Son to die for you has not abandoned you.

Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
Jas 1:4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.


Deu 6:24 And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.


 
1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:


Sometimes we are tried daily my friend and that is not a bad thing but each time a chance to trust God all the more. God works all for good .
The One who loves you most, the One whop sent His Son to die for you has not abandoned you.

Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
Jas 1:4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.


Deu 6:24 And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.



I prayed for protection from Christ before I went to sleep (as I have been almost daily) but...

I was tested again twice just today while I was sleeping. The first time was in the early morning when I went to bed and the second was later in the evening when I fell asleep after reading some verses in Mathew.
They were both of sexual nature.

The thing that really scared me was that while I was being tested, I knew what I was doing was wrong, I even thought of Jesus but still committed the sin with no regard for Him or my faith...I cant believe I had such disregard for my salvation.

The power of sin and temptation was so powerful that even when I think of what happened, i can still feel it.

Its monday now. Im hoping I can get a reprieve. Satan loves testing me on Sundays probably because its our holy day.
 
Fill your mind with the things of God. You will grow stronger and moere resistant to temptation. Do not weary of well doing.
Understand this- God knew every time you would stumble and yet He still sent His Son to die in your place. He knows your heart and if you are willing you will be free.
 
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