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Children to be taught to Chant to Aztec Gods

Christ4Ever

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Incredulous as it may seem, yes, California wants to add to their curriculum chanting to Aztec Gods!
This is something straight out of the OT, where Israeli incorporated the gods of other Nations into their worship.

"(for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God), Exodus 34:14 NKJV

OK Children, Let’s Chant to the Aztec Gods | The Stream
 
If I still had children, I would pull them out...come to think of it, I did pull my kids...I taught them at home.
This is not surprising though...America is named after Quetzalcoatl, also known as Ameruca. Yes I know...but would YOU teach your kids that America was named after a Maya god? I doubt it...
 
Amerigo Vespucci (/vɛˈspuːtʃi/;[1] Italian: [ameˈriːɡo veˈsputtʃi]; 9 March 1454 – 22 February 1512) was an Italian-born merchant, explorer, and navigator from the Republic of Florence, from whose name the term "America" is derived. He became a Castillian citizen in 1505.

Between 1497 and 1504, Vespucci participated in at least two voyages of the Age of Discovery, first on behalf of Spain (1499–1500) and then for Portugal (1501–1502). In 1503 and 1505, two booklets were published under his name, containing colourful descriptions of these explorations and other alleged voyages. Both publications were extremely popular and widely read across much of Europe. Although historians still dispute the authorship and veracity of these accounts, at the time they were instrumental in raising awareness of the new discoveries and enhancing the reputation of Vespucci as an explorer and navigator.

Vespucci claimed to have understood, back in 1501 during his Portuguese expedition, that Brazil was part of a continent new to Europeans, which he called the New World. The claim inspired cartographer Martin Waldseemüller to recognize Vespucci's accomplishments in 1507 by applying the Latinized form "America" for the first time to a map showing the New World. Other cartographers followed suit, and by 1532 the name America was permanently affixed to the newly discovered continents.

It is unknown whether Vespucci was ever aware of these honours. In 1505, he was made a citizen of Castile by royal decree and in 1508, he was appointed to the newly created position of chief navigator for Spain's Casa de Contratación (House of Trade) in Seville, a post he held until his death in 1512.
 
The amazing thing is that you can learn about a country's roots, without actually having to participate or reenact practices that have been long death, and a slap in the face to the one true God.
I admire you Admon for your dedication to your children in schooling them at home. Would more parents do so, we might actually have young men and women growing up as Godly members of this society. That's assuming that the parents are Godly themselves! :-)

Thank-you brother Huber. It had been awhile since I had heard the name of Amerigo Vespucci! :-) I wonder if they even teach him in school anymore?
Though it would be of greater benefit to the children, if they taught Scripture, or at least the Bay Psalm Book which was the first book printed in the Colonies.
Wouldn't that be amazing to hear coming from the windows as one walked by a school!!! Instead we have chanting to other gods :(

Thanks for sharing brothers!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Yes this is bad. But is it any worse than most of the other stuff taught in schools?
You yourself can over-ride God's choice of which gender you are. Even if you're only 6 years old.
The school can give you hormone shots without the parents permission. If you complain as a parents you can be fined or serve jail time.
They are too dumb to watch Sesame street, and read Dr Suess, but they are smart enough to make sex change choices?

How long has evolution been taught? Have long has creationism been dismissed?
How long has "relative truths" been taught? No absolute truth from God, because there isn't a God.

Some of these things have been going on for decades, and we are just now waking up to it?
 
In your history class in school, did they teach about the most important event in all history, an earthshaking event that totally changed history...Did they teach you about Jesus at all, except in a Romanist school catechism class? No...They taught you about Mohammad instead, how he started and entire devilish religion. So they lied to you by omission.....They know that they know that the Vikings were in this land a thousand years before Columbus "discovered" this land..They don't teach you that. They lie to you...They do not tell you that the Russian people were fishing along the west coast all the way to Baja before Columbus "discovered" this 'new' land...They lied to you. Probably the only subject in school where you learned the truth is math... Vespucci changed his name to match the maps and his friends talked him up...Vespucci is a lie too.
 
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"Freedom of Religion" [act]. that means the right to express all religions including all kind of prayers and the worshiping of all forms of "deities":pensive:
 
Not that many years ago there was a public school teacher that made news. She'd asked the school to discipline a Christian girl who refused to recite the Islamic prayer of conversion.

It is astonishing how fast America is going to Hell.
 
"Freedom of Religion" [act]. that means the right to express all religions including all kind of prayers and the worshiping of all forms of "deities":pensive:
As guaranteed by the 1st amendment of the American Constitution.
However, there was a bill referred to in that terminology back in 2016. As I recall it never made it past being referred to the Subcommittee on Immigration and Border Security.
It pertained to guaranteeing an immigrant could not be denied entry into the U.S. based on their religious belief and practice.
 
Why is it so hard for christians to realize that christianity is the 'new kid' on the block. Christianity is one of newest religion there is. Mandatory education is fairly new too, in the develop countries. United States alone is a fairly new country. The thing that really lifted USA out of poverty was in the 20th century, > The invention of the Automobile. Then we needed steel , iron, oil, gas, to make cars and keep them running. The parts, building the plants and factories to help build them, wheels, rubber, and parts to build those plants. Textile plants had to be built to built the interior for those. Work clothes plants, had to be built, work shoes plants had to be built. Bridges and roads had to be built. Transportation lines had to to built to transport people to work. Skill workers, powerful railroads, Insurance companies to insure the workers and Automobiles. Traffic officers jobs, had to be created. stop signs, stoplights, road crews. But now we have "Robotics". automations, computers, And automatic tellers and "NAFTA". Why was these entities created? To eliminate or downsize the work force in The USA.
When you use to deposit 2 dollars in the bank, at the end of the month you had $2.05. They paid you for the use of your 2.00. Know days, if you have $100.00 in your account at the end of the month you might have $65,00. They charge you "parking fees" for letting your $100.00 park inside of the bank vault. Calling it service fees.

Yes they are teaching our kids alright! And our kids are growing up, thinking these things are the normal way and righteous way of life. This is The New Morality of Life! Train you child to grow up and get out of the house and never come back home, to help with nothing. Even if their parents are sick. But instruct our children to seek counseling and morals from strangers. And pay for it, with a credit card. Be accounted to somebody when they grow up, and live in a big house with empty rooms and 3 extra bathrooms and bedrooms collecting dust!
 
Why is it so hard for christians to realize that christianity is the 'new kid' on the block. Christianity is one of newest religion there is.

That depends on how you look at it. Christianity started with Judaism. Which is older than Buddhism, Islam, and a number of large religions.
 
That depends on how you look at it. Christianity started with Judaism. Which is older than Buddhism, Islam, and a number of large religions.
Please do not insult me like that B.A.C. and what religions was there before Abraham., before the GOD OF "ABRAHAM, Isaac, and Jacob establish HIS Name. Before the Hebrew people even existed. Since Abraham is the 1st Hebrew, the father of the Hebrew people. And In "Isaac"
Genesis 17:19
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
 
Even before God made a covenant with Abraham, God existed. If we take the Bible literally, the Adam, the first man who ever existed... knew about the God of the Bible.
If we take verses like John1:3; and Col 1:16; that say Jesus created everything that exists. Then certainly Jesus existed before the heavens and the earth, and before mankind.
If we take verses like Hebrews 4:3; that say Jesus finished His work before the foundation of the earth....

There are some problems proving all this. We have to take the Bible by faith. No humans were around to see God/Jesus create creation. But the Bible tells us when and how it happened.
There is an exercise you can do (I've done it many years ago) and go through the ages of the patriarchs of the Bible.

If you read Luke 3:23-38; it gives us the genealogy of Jesus from Adam. The Bible tells us exactly how long every one lived up to Levi. It also tells us how old they were when their sons
were born. So if we take this literally it is 76 generations. from Adam to Jesus. If you actually count out the math in these generations and the age of each forefather, the Earth comes out
to be around 6200 to 6400 years old. Some of Jesus's ancestors lived several hundred years. Methuselah was 969 years old for example.

It takes a lot of digging, for Methuselah alone you need all the verses like...
Gen 5:21; Enoch lived sixty-five years, and became the father of Methuselah.
Gen 5:22; Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters.
Gen 5:25; Methuselah lived one hundred and eighty-seven years, and became the father of Lamech.
Gen 5:26; Then Methuselah lived seven hundred and eighty-two years after he became the father of Lamech, and he had other sons and daughters.
Gen 5:27; So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years, and he died.

That's just one man's generation between Enoch and Lamech.

There is some disagreement about the Bible... even which book is the oldest.
Wikipedia is a terrible resource for this... their articles and estimates don't match any reputable Bible colleges estimates.
Generally Job or Genesis is considered to be the oldest book. Secular estimates put these at 4th to 6th century BC. Christian estimates put these closer to
1450 BC. So if Jesus died 2021 years ago (it isn't quite as simple to determine this as you might think) and He lived for 33 years.
2021 + 33 + 1450 = 3400 give or take a decade or two.

Secular science currently puts the Earth at about 4.5 billion years old. There is a lot of discrepancy between 6,400 years and 4.5 billion years.
There are a lot of explanations, about whether to take the Bible literally or not about creation. Secular science says the first human existed about 7 million years ago.
So that's one problem.

Then there is the Bible itself.. even if use the Bible timeline to support a young earth (6,400 years old) the first book of the Bible wasn't written until about 3,400 years ago.
That's 3,000 years with no written Bible or Bible history. So we have to take the word of the Bible on faith.
That's the second problem.

Many religions claim to be older than Judaism. But none of them can prove how old they actually are, any more than Judaism can.
That's the 3rd problem.

But all timelines aside, the Bible claims that Adam and Eve knew who God was. They talked to Him and He knew them by name.
So if Jesus existed before the Earth existed, no religion could be older than Christianity. However when was Christianity "known" to the world?
It was of course revealed 2,000 years ago with the advent of Jesus. But even so, Gen 3:15; is a prophecy of Jesus given to Adam and Eve.
They likely didn't realize it at the time. Many prophecies of Jesus were realized after the fact.
So from that perspective no religion could be older than Christianity.
 
Since "The Adversary" is the ruler of this world, science is also his kingdom. Remember he is also a Angel, very knowledgeable and intelligent and knows more about "Jesus, The Father the Holy Ghost" and all Creation than any other created being that has walked upon the earth. And His creator is The Almighty God, who also gave him the power to be "The Perfect Deceiver" which could also be his perfect name.
So it would be his proper abode to speak into the mind of mankind. That the universe was not created in according to the "Oringinal Copied Manuscript" in the true words of GOD that is "Divinely Inspired" by GOD. In order to divert such magnitude of "dynamite" from "The ALMIGHTY GOD", In order to declare that there is nothing that can create or have such "power" to create a universe so mass in that is beyond comprehending, in the span of 6 days out of nothing.

That the reason maybe, it is imposible for GOD to do such a thing in 6 days when each day consists of 24 hours. Since it is impossible for GOD the creator to do such a thing, thereford He is not GOD. He is not "SOvereign"! And there are somethings He cannot do! So the devil has declared that the "Holy Scriptures" are in error! And GOD Is not "Omnipotent"!

But I "PloughBoy", am here believing and declaring in this universe, in this time span, and believing it shall be recorded and mark down in the halls of eternity about my declaration concerning my believeth in this matter!
"Not only the "Holy Scriptures" are true concerning creation as it is written, and plainly understood that a mere ploughboy can understand the text. But not only can GOD the Father Create the Universe and every thing in it in 6 days a number of 24 hours in each day as a little child understands his "Mickey Mouse" hour hand on his watch.

But I believe the GOD i know, according to "Holy Scripture" and HIS Words He has Spoken Concerning HIMSELF, He could have Created the whole Universe and eveything that exists in it. All the stars, Galaxies and Sola Systems, Time and space. In in "one moment" of time as we know "The moment" of time that exists.

Yes He could have, if He wanted it to be. But He has a "divine plan" according to HIS will, that cannot be comprehended by a "finite" mine!

Jesus told Nicodenus: "If I told you earthly things and you didnt't believe, how will you believe if i tell you heavenly things?"

PS wrong post for this thread. Sorry.
 
I admire you Admon for your dedication to your children in schooling them at home. Would more parents do so, we might actually have young men and women growing up as Godly members of this society. That's assuming that the parents are Godly themselves!

agreed

One day (maybe) parents will/might wake up to this. Preferably, before it is too late.
Otherwise, we will continue to witness parents fishing around for some excuse for the condition of their children... and society, forgetting that their children were never meant to be part of society as if one with it - when they grow up. Some may even try doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists to try to 'fix' their broken children.
Children growing up being taught Bible but expected to be worldlings by psuedo-parents at institutions will battle having two minds, two loyalties and very little ability to fight against the world and its evil ways, yet they will be made to think that they are responsible and even to blame, as in accountable, for their actions and reactions to all that goes on around them.

Will they be any different, really, from non-Christians? few and far between. Heavily indoctrinated youngsters with parents who trust man before the Lord.

Sad. Very sad.

The only good thing about such scenarios is that one day they might come to know the Lord and the power of His Spirit and the Life available for those who believe and live that belief, in His Son.
Buy why play russian roulette with our own children???


Jesus is Lord


Bless you ....><>
 
Just kind of curious here...So many of my post deleted because they are offensive in some way...How does this differ from YouTube, Facebook or the others? No matter what somebody says or how, somebody will be offended...I've done my research. I do know what I'm talking about...Why is it offensive to learn that ones country is founded on something other than what you would wish for? Now, knowing about it, something can be done about it...or one can delete comments and bury their heads in the sand? Just asking. You cannot do anything about anything if you do not know about it. If I'm wrong, you tell me, why is Washington DC laid out in the shape of a pentgram?
 
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Just kind of curious here...So many of my post deleted because they are offensive in some way...How does this differ from YouTube, Facebook or the others? No matter what somebody says or how, somebody will be offended...I've done my research. I do know what I'm talking about...Why is it offensive to learn that ones country is founded on something other than what you would wish for? Now, knowing about it, something can be done about it...or one can delete comments and bury their heads in the sand? Just asking.
Evidently you haven't done enough research, to become experience! You still got a little milk on your breath! :p and i do like you !
 
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