China killing Christians to harvest organs?

[StewardoftheMystery]

 

[MedicBravo]

China hates Christians. In fact, a lot of Chinese all over the world hate Christians.
Black people, generally, really hate the Chinese.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

They are taking to making merchandise of the people to a whole new level.

2 Peter 2:3
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

 

[PloughBoy]

Many have not read "NAFTA" Agreement years ago. and Who gave China the Power and so weaken America and Plunge The common American people in to pure Poverty with no hope for retirement and "Social Security" and also pass out a fools hand called The "401"to replace Pension plan. I also Was "UAW" PLANT STEWARD" before I was 21. I Know Trades contacts I know about China and the trade relationships. My name is on Documents of The high dollar commodities From the Shipping Ports right here in The State of Michigan And Ships that docked in the Great Lakes, I know "Indiana. Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania, I knew The "NAFTA" before "NAFTA" came to be. It is not China!

The Bible: first take The Beam out of Our Own eyes then We can see clearly how to take The Speck out of our own eyes."

We where sold out by our Own People, Mark out to be destroyed while the fat cats became fatter, Greed never has enough it always say more, more, more...ff.

And when anyone through out the Bible chose to help people of A country the Worships foreign idol GODS, Then Who do you think GOD JUDGES Hard, and tear down and bring their country down and place them into Slavery! A know Biblical FACT His own people!

And now Judgement has , had Begun At The HOUSE of GOD, and churches has Plummet at record numbers in developing countries. and the people will not return, for The ALMIGHTY GOD will make sure of That! So he did in "ISRAEL" So he will in "The NATIONS".

But the lORD:
1Why do the nations ragea

and the peoples plot in vain?

2The kings of the earth take their stand

and the rulers gather together,

against the LORD

and against His Anointed One:b

3“Let us break Their chains
and cast away Their cords.”

4The One enthroned in heaven laughs; [For GOD is LAUGHING at THEM]!
the Lord taunts them.

5Then He Rebukes Them In His Anger,
And Terrifies Them In His Fury:

6“I have installed My King on Zion,
upon My holy mountain.”

They never think That There is " A CATALYST" They all are in "CAHOOTS"together. Christians cannot see this but "GOD" Can.

"Take notice, O senseless among the people! O fools, when will you be wise? 9He who affixed the ear, can He not hear? He who formed the eye, can He not see? 10He who admonishes the nations, does He not discipline? He who teaches man, does He lack knowledge?…"


PloughBoy, The Leaders Of These Worlds Does Not Get A Pass, They Are Not God, And The Lord Will Have His Will in The Whirl Wind and The clouds are The Dust of His feet!, For They Do Not Know "THE LORD"! GOD IS NOT Standing on The sidelines and waiting to do something. He is Always at Work.

Th pagans has said and even some christians has said: "why don't God do Something" God does not never sleep, God is Always at Work doing everything according to His Time and doing it According to His will. the is why HE IS "The TETRAGRAMMATON"

 

[PloughBoy]

China hates Christians. In fact, a lot of Chinese all over the world hate Christians.
Black people, generally, really hate the Chinese.

Well JESUS was beaten and hung on a tree
John Baptist head was cut off.
Stephen was stone to death
Paul was beaten many times and left for death, and then Nero cut off his head
James was sawed into
ANDREW WAS PULLED A PART BY WILD HORSES
John was thrown in hot oil and put on the Island of Patmos
Then There was Polycarp, Athanasius, Huss, St. Bartholomew Massacre the Huguenots

And Millions more

The group Open Doors USA figures that 360 million Christians last year lived in countries where persecution was “significant.” Roughly 5,600 Christians were murdered, more than 6,000 were detained or imprisoned, and another 4,000-plus were kidnapped.Mar 7, 2022

When God calls you,He calls you to die and even A violent death! You just committed yourself to be a "WITNESS" meaning "A Martyr" that is to died for proclaiming "The Gospel of Jesus Christ" if your life is not Threaten, you ain't doing the job you playing! because if you are doing it right, That DEVIL is trying his best To Kill you and destroy everything about you! To be a Proclaimer of Jesus Christ is a deadly occupation. People are not After you, demons and devils who occupy's people! It is A death sentence to proclaim "The Gospel According to Jesus Christ" and you do fear, yes you do, that is why The Book says FEAR NO MAN! but be willing to DIED! You Fear GOD! You fear No ROBBER, No GUNMAN, ,No Killers, No thieves, No Rapist, you fear GOD. You fear no husband, No wife, you are willing to DIED a violent death in the name of JESUS. While they are raping you YOU tell them about Jesus Christ. For You Are Willing To Die And be Rape, You Still Love Them And Proclaim Truth> You Hate Them Not! And You Let Them Know It.

I know it change my life about christians when I went to Reformed Bible college, And the Missionaries Teens and Young Adults Would Come Back From The Missionaries Fields. Young Girls Rape Young Men Rape, beaten And Still Proclaim The GOSPEL OF Jesus Christ While They Where Being Rape And Won Many Of Their Captors. Soldiers They Won To Christ. Not a Dry Face In The Auditoriums

And I thought Sunday morning worship was serving GOD and the food kitchen and handing out Tracks and teaching Sunday school! 1979 change my mind! and those young teens had to learn the languages in the field in grass huts! with bugs and Jungle Rats! Males And females! Mama's and daddy's would be crying , please don't go, serve God Here! No Daddy I got to go to "Peru" in the Jungle and "The Amazon" they need me! I never heard no black folk talk like that, serving Jesus! Another friend of Mines his friend and wife went to "Somalia" as missionaries. My friend was not a born again christian but we worked together as contractors for many years. They as them to go, He said; I ain't going. I am going to stay right here in "New Jersey" where GOD plant me! that was the only time I ever heard him talk about GOD in 20 years! He was a brother of another color.

So when you follow Jesus you are willing to die even a violent dead and to be tortured and still love and present The GOSPEL According To Jesus Christ" to "The Philippian Jailer'

 

[MedicBravo]

The CCP (and others) are the ones who took the flu, modified it, and released it onto the world.
This idea should be nothing surprising.

 

[Hekuran]

The video doesnt present any evidence for the claim.

The logic goes: China suddenly has unexplained capacity to provide donated organs. Therefore they must be harvesting those organs from prisoners of conscience, Christians and Falun Gong members.

I'd need quite a bit more evidence to be persuaded.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

The video doesnt present any evidence for the claim.

The logic goes: China suddenly has unexplained capacity to provide donated organs. Therefore they must be harvesting those organs from prisoners of conscience, Christians and Falun Gong members.

I'd need quite a bit more evidence to be persuaded.

The evidence has been known for some time now.

The ugly truth about China’s organ harvesting

The verdict is in: On June 17, the China Tribunal announced its finding that China’s Communist regime has for two decades practiced systematic, forced organ removal from prisoners of conscience, ma…

nypost.com

 

[Hekuran]

The evidence has been known for some time now.

The ugly truth about China’s organ harvesting

The verdict is in: On June 17, the China Tribunal announced its finding that China’s Communist regime has for two decades practiced systematic, forced organ removal from prisoners of conscience, ma…

nypost.com

Thanks for the link. That's horrifying. I've quickly checked the China Tribunal, which was an independent investigation to the issue About - China Tribunal

China has been accused of forced organ harvesting since 2000. Initially China was charged with forcibly removing the organs of death row prisoners. China later claimed that death row prisoners consented to donating their organs to the State to redeem themselves for the crimes they had committed against the State, a practice China claimed to have stopped in January 2015. However, the explosion of organ transplant activities in China from 2000 together with reports of thousands of transplant tourists going to China to purchase organs, suggests a larger supply of organs than could be sourced from executed criminals alone. The scale of the Chinese transplant industry, together with other evidence, points to the possibility that China is involved in forced organ harvesting and selling for profit organs from prisoners of conscience.

National and international organisations and government bodies have reported on the issue of forced organ harvesting in the People’s Republic of China. Based on multiple sources of information, it has been alleged that prisoners of conscience have been killed ‘to order’ for the purposes of extracting and using their organs for profitable transplantation surgery. Victims include members of groups arbitrarily detained by the government for political reasons (primarily people who practice Falun Gong but also Tibetans, Uyghurs and House Christians). Parliamentary hearings in several countries have heard evidence on the issue, and some have passed legislation in response. To date however, there has been no investigation into to what, if any, crimes have been committed by such forced organ harvesting by the Chinese State or state-approved bodies. It is this question of criminal liability that this tribunal will address.​

 

[MedicBravo]

China is a communist country by default. Not as bad as North Korea but both are innately communist.
I've seen so many videos of Christian in China, largely Asian, who get Bibles and meet in secret and they have an emotional break.

 

[Godbehonored]

Funny thing is, China became communist because of the West and WW2.

Marxism came from Germany, and spread into Asia. Before CCP ever existed, Qing ruled China. It was western powers that overthrew Qing government and turned China into a stateless hot mess of military infighting coups. If Qing remained intact, where would CCP be anyway? Qing would not give up its power if it was never destroyed.

If you are a true Christian, take a hard look at history as to WHY China became communist. A whole nation of civilians, for a century, were in a state of utter desperation for survival and on the brink of extinction from civil wars, Japanese invasion since Qing fell.

Can you blame a war torn nation of the desperate and deprived for going after anything (in this case communism) that promises salvation and freedom? Or do you fail to understand that any human who is driven to desperation and hopelessness for too long will believe in ANYTHING that sounds like hope? The Chinese are no worse sinners than sinners anywhere else.

That piece of land is ravaged by the devil, and you people should know very well what kind of lasting damage war and deprivation does to the human psyche. This kind of damage is done to the people in that land, what kind of goodness do you demand from a race who has been abused in this way?

 

[MedicBravo]

Funny thing is, China became communist because of the West and WW2.

Marxism came from Germany, and spread into Asia. Before CCP ever existed, Qing ruled China. It was western powers that overthrew Qing government and turned China into a stateless hot mess of military infighting coups. If Qing remained intact, where would CCP be anyway? Qing would not give up its power if it was never destroyed.

If you are a true Christian, take a hard look at history as to WHY China became communist. A whole nation of civilians, for a century, were in a state of utter desperation for survival and on the brink of extinction from civil wars, Japanese invasion since Qing fell.

Can you blame a war torn nation of the desperate and deprived for going after anything (in this case communism) that promises salvation and freedom? Or do you fail to understand that any human who is driven to desperation and hopelessness for too long will believe in ANYTHING that sounds like hope? The Chinese are no worse sinners than sinners anywhere else.

That piece of land is ravaged by the devil, and you people should know very well what kind of lasting damage war and deprivation does to the human psyche. This kind of damage is done to the people in that land, what kind of goodness do you demand from a race who has been abused in this way?

I expect them to stay in their own country and fix their problems and NOT run from them to America and other places.
Truth is evil, be it in the form of some mortal human, MUST be stopped by any means necessary. Love, hugs, and "good feelings, and even prayer doesn't turn a bullet, blade, or bomb into a flower or magical fairy dust.
Truth is, God used Christians and violence to stop evil throughout history.
What makes any of us thing pacifism is going to stop evil?
We are also commanded to fight for those who cannot: Elderly. Lame. Orphans. Children. Etc.
If that includes the D of the other so be it and given the reality of it, most of the time a peaceful option will not work.
I care about America, legal Americans, and our problems and forget the rest of the world.
Lastly, the past is just that. Constantly bringing it up as some excuse for, say, China's problems is pointless.
America is a Republic and many countries strive to become it on some level.
All who pursue communism and it's other flavors will become the Hell it's supposed to be.

 

[Godbehonored]

I expect them to stay in their own country and fix their problems and NOT run from them to America and other places.
Truth is evil, be it in the form of some mortal human, MUST be stopped by any means necessary. Love, hugs, and "good feelings, and even prayer doesn't turn a bullet, blade, or bomb into a flower or magical fairy dust.
Truth is, God used Christians and violence to stop evil throughout history.
What makes any of us thing pacifism is going to stop evil?
We are also commanded to fight for those who cannot: Elderly. Lame. Orphans. Children. Etc.
If that includes the D of the other so be it and given the reality of it, most of the time a peaceful option will not work.
I care about America, legal Americans, and our problems and forget the rest of the world.
Lastly, the past is just that. Constantly bringing it up as some excuse for, say, China's problems is pointless.
America is a Republic and many countries strive to become it on some level.
All who pursue communism and it's other flavors will become the Hell it's supposed to be.

And how are a group of unarmed civilians living on the brink of poverty supposed to fix their problems on their own when they neither have knowledge of God nor are able to overcome the spiritual evil in their flesh? Do you expect them to have courage when they are barely surviving?

I mentioned nothing about pacifism. I did not say it is ok for that piece of land or any land to do evil. What I am saying is the people in that land is in a state of learned helplessness because of what happened to them in history. And most of the evil that was brought onto them came from external forces, well beyond their ability to control. How do you expect common folks to say no to evil when their most desperate need is to SURVIVE?

If you are a true Christian, you should be praying for God to help them overcome whatever evil the devil has brought them under, not curse them and blame them for being held under spiritual bondage. When in Christianity is ANY race supposed to overcome the devil on their own? And why would anyone call themselves Christian when they have zero compassion?