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Christian entertainment in all forms largely sucks.

MedicBravo

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Now that some people are likely typing like mad men/mad women, let me explain.
God created everything didn't He? He influenced countless things right? He is the author of/originator of Creativity and Imagination.
How it is used by each person shows the results of these things.
Hallmark channel tends to make "feel-good, happy-ending, sappy love, and Christmas movies."
Sadly, Lifetime does but has adopted the vomit-inducing LGB and T+ "entertainment".
99% of Christian movies are bad not b/c of the actors and writing in large, but the SAME tired stories, plots, arcs, and endings.
Most Christian music sucks. Same repetitive lines. More have at best 8 different lines and the chorus is repeated more 3/4 of the song.
Many of the people who "sing" can't sing. They do what's called "yell-singing" with very small vocal range or ability to carry a tune effectively. Auotune has been around for years and you can be sure a lot of them use it and won't tell the truth about it.
Songs, used to be, at large telling a story, emotions, feelings, a time in one's life, etc. Most Christian music is Me, Me, Me and I, I, I. God is not the focus. Worse yet are the Christian and God neutered entertainment. Where God or anything related to the Bible is never mentioned or shown.
I don't care if one of them reads this and gets "upset". You're not making Christian entertainment when you intentionally leave God out of it. In fact, I and countless others know full well how music is made these days. We know that certain chords, tones, and music styles can influence and produce "false good feelings" in a person so songs and albums are pumped out for profits.
Mercy Me's "I Can Only Imagine" is a really good Christian song. Far better than Toby Mac's pizza lyrics and that Mandisa woman's "music".
If you don't know there is Christian Rock, Christian Metal, and other Christian genres which don't get the spotlight at all.
Considering the lack of God in most Christian entertainment He knows who's doing right and who is not.
 
Agree with you on this @MedicBravo. Most Christian entertainment is derivative and bland. I don't get anything at all from most of it.

Here's something you may or may not like, but is certainly not cookie-cutter disposable music. At the height of Soviet domination in 1968, Arvo Part composed "Credo" this very brave and bold statement. The opening Latin lyric is "I believe in Jesus Christ" and borrows from Bach's prelude in C. The second lyric is "You have heard an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, but I say to you, Do not resist evil, go with love to your enemies". The whole thing descends into violence and chaos, and you can listen for yourself to find out how it ends.

It was only performed once in the Soviet Union. The composer and man of the performers paid a high price for defying the authorities. Listen with good headphones.

 
Entertainment, I disagree, music perhaps sometimes, but I listen to christian music for the worship found in my own soul. In a church setting, its supposed to be God we are sharing our faith through the music, who cares if the voices arent wonderful in your ears? I guarantee you that GOD finds any voice that praises Him in song is beautiful to Him. Not only is my voice not trained to be wonderful to you, most arent singing to please "you".
 
Even at church it largely sucks.
I see you go the "you" route.
Most care about profits nothing more. If they TRULY wanted to make great Christian entertainment in all its forms:
Songs would have more than 6 lines and 4 being the chorus sung 20x and that is the "song".
99.99% of Christian movies have a "happy ending". Christian apocalypse is one that had a growing for some time and I have a list of such movies. Truth is, many lives have nothing of a "happy ending" Christian or not.
Afraid to curse and show the truth about mankind's ease at falling into sin and a point where all seems lost. None ever leave the viewer wondering if the person improved let alone lived.
Books? Please. Anyone can their own bible and sell it, In fact, the heretical Satan worshiper who has NO business in front of a church sells them with her NAME on the cover. She's not the author and that's where the author puts his/her name.
A high majority of it nothing but cookie-cutter, read profit first script, song, etc. made for making money.
If the plots are the same 99% of the time = BORING.
If the song is 99% chorus over and over = BORING and shows the people involved have little to no imagination or creativity.
Way to do a disservice to God and self while making a mockery of what Music is.
 
Now that some people are likely typing like mad men/mad women, let me explain.
God created everything didn't He? He influenced countless things right? He is the author of/originator of Creativity and Imagination.
How it is used by each person shows the results of these things.
Hallmark channel tends to make "feel-good, happy-ending, sappy love, and Christmas movies."
Sadly, Lifetime does but has adopted the vomit-inducing LGB and T+ "entertainment".
99% of Christian movies are bad not b/c of the actors and writing in large, but the SAME tired stories, plots, arcs, and endings.
Most Christian music sucks. Same repetitive lines. More have at best 8 different lines and the chorus is repeated more 3/4 of the song.
Many of the people who "sing" can't sing. They do what's called "yell-singing" with very small vocal range or ability to carry a tune effectively. Auotune has been around for years and you can be sure a lot of them use it and won't tell the truth about it.
Songs, used to be, at large telling a story, emotions, feelings, a time in one's life, etc. Most Christian music is Me, Me, Me and I, I, I. God is not the focus. Worse yet are the Christian and God neutered entertainment. Where God or anything related to the Bible is never mentioned or shown.
I don't care if one of them reads this and gets "upset". You're not making Christian entertainment when you intentionally leave God out of it. In fact, I and countless others know full well how music is made these days. We know that certain chords, tones, and music styles can influence and produce "false good feelings" in a person so songs and albums are pumped out for profits.
Mercy Me's "I Can Only Imagine" is a really good Christian song. Far better than Toby Mac's pizza lyrics and that Mandisa woman's "music".
If you don't know there is Christian Rock, Christian Metal, and other Christian genres which don't get the spotlight at all.
Considering the lack of God in most Christian entertainment He knows who's doing right and who is not.
Hi, with regards to music. Have you tried listening to hymns? There are many Christian hymns on YouTube which have a lot of meaning. Fountainview academy sings a lot of hymns; listen to their music and if you like it, then consider subscribing to their channel. This is one of their songs.


You can also search for scripture songs on YouTube. I have not found anyone that sings them very well, but nevertheless they are singing scripture. This will help with memorizing the bible.

Christian rock does not glorify God and is very detrimental to your spiritual life. You can read why this is so in this free book https://d1yei2z3i6k35z.cloudfront.net/2636107/636e1a9d5fb5f_RockMusic.pdf
 
Hi, with regards to music. Have you tried listening to hymns? There are many Christian hymns on YouTube which have a lot of meaning. Fountainview academy sings a lot of hymns; listen to their music and if you like it, then consider subscribing to their channel. This is one of their songs.


You can also search for scripture songs on YouTube. I have not found anyone that sings them very well, but nevertheless they are singing scripture. This will help with memorizing the bible.

Christian rock does not glorify God and is very detrimental to your spiritual life. You can read why this is so in this free book https://d1yei2z3i6k35z.cloudfront.net/2636107/636e1a9d5fb5f_RockMusic.pdf
"Christian rock does not glorify God and is very detrimental to your spiritual life." - By who's authority? Your opinion but certainly not fact nor scripture.
Pretty sure God being Who He is and how he created all, then the inspiration and culmination of Christian rock when done right like any Christian music IS more than sufficient.
Music is one of my favorite things and I've spent countless hours trying to find people and band which make consistent good music in this but without 99% of the lyrics being the same or the chorus being 99% with some "Yeah! God!" and "Praise Him" and all these other drag and drop verses.
In another attempt I have my car one one station right now. I hear at least 8 of the same songs EVERY DAY and they too are 99% chorus over and over and over and over and over.
A blind, albino, midget with a gimp let who's blind in one eye and baby arm could throw a dart at some words on a wall and come up with better lyrics.
Christian music does not have to come from only the Bible.
God created Imagination and Creativity did he not?
As the Author of such I'm sure He prefers a higher standard of Christian music than 99% of Christian "music" pumped out for money.
 
"Christian rock does not glorify God and is very detrimental to your spiritual life." - By who's authority? Your opinion but certainly not fact nor scripture.
Pretty sure God being Who He is and how he created all, then the inspiration and culmination of Christian rock when done right like any Christian music IS more than sufficient.
Music is one of my favorite things and I've spent countless hours trying to find people and band which make consistent good music in this but without 99% of the lyrics being the same or the chorus being 99% with some "Yeah! God!" and "Praise Him" and all these other drag and drop verses.
In another attempt I have my car one one station right now. I hear at least 8 of the same songs EVERY DAY and they too are 99% chorus over and over and over and over and over.
A blind, albino, midget with a gimp let who's blind in one eye and baby arm could throw a dart at some words on a wall and come up with better lyrics.
Christian music does not have to come from only the Bible.
God created Imagination and Creativity did he not?
As the Author of such I'm sure He prefers a higher standard of Christian music than 99% of Christian "music" pumped out for money.
@MedicBravo If someone provides you with advice and they provide you with information, you should first be humble and read that information before responding.

It is not my opinion that "Christian" rock music is detrimental to your spiritual life. I provided a link to a book that talks about rock music including "Christian" rock music. The person who wrote the book studied the subject extensively and the book includes interviews conducted with rock n roll musicians.

Your response shows that you did not read the book and it would have been impossible to have read the book that quickly in any case.

You need to be a humble and being humble starts with the mindset that you do not know everything and might be wrong about a lot of things.

Not everything that has the word "Christian" associated with it is from God and is inspired by God.
The inspiration of rock music is the devil. You cannot mix the things of God and the things of the devil.

There is lots of information online that will show you the truth about rock music. You can even watch interviews on YouTube where people who were involved with rock music talk about its dangers. Rock music is not only spiritually detrimental, it is also mentally and physically detrimental.
 
@MedicBravo If someone provides you with advice and they provide you with information, you should first be humble and read that information before responding.

It is not my opinion that "Christian" rock music is detrimental to your spiritual life. I provided a link to a book that talks about rock music including "Christian" rock music. The person who wrote the book studied the subject extensively and the book includes interviews conducted with rock n roll musicians.

Your response shows that you did not read the book and it would have been impossible to have read the book that quickly in any case.

You need to be a humble and being humble starts with the mindset that you do not know everything and might be wrong about a lot of things.

Not everything that has the word "Christian" associated with it is from God and is inspired by God.
The inspiration of rock music is the devil. You cannot mix the things of God and the things of the devil.

There is lots of information online that will show you the truth about rock music. You can even watch interviews on YouTube where people who were involved with rock music talk about its dangers. Rock music is not only spiritually detrimental, it is also mentally and physically detrimental.
  • No one has to humble themselves to take new info.
  • One book by whomever is not the tell all, be all, authoritative on anything. One person's opinion on something. No one gets the same experience out of anything.
  • So? See 2nd bullet.
  • I don't "need" to be or do anything. I can choose for myself.
  • I'm not wrong. Bad entertainment is the problem. When 99% of Christian entertainment is easily predictable and with music the same chords and lyrics it's NOT good entertainment.
  • Of course. I'm speaking in general terms b/c sadly, generally, at large as I state in the title it is true. Seems you are upset and might be offended at this but it's the truth.
  • Even secular music went bad in the last 10 years at least. What I grew up on was far better.
  • There is Christian Rock and I find it to be one niche of this that stands out above the Autotuned, robotic, repetitive garbage that makes up most (not all) of Christian entertainment.
 
  • No one has to humble themselves to take new info.
  • One book by whomever is not the tell all, be all, authoritative on anything. One person's opinion on something. No one gets the same experience out of anything.
  • So? See 2nd bullet.
  • I don't "need" to be or do anything. I can choose for myself.
  • I'm not wrong. Bad entertainment is the problem. When 99% of Christian entertainment is easily predictable and with music the same chords and lyrics it's NOT good entertainment.
  • Of course. I'm speaking in general terms b/c sadly, generally, at large as I state in the title it is true. Seems you are upset and might be offended at this but it's the truth.
  • Even secular music went bad in the last 10 years at least. What I grew up on was far better.
  • There is Christian Rock and I find it to be one niche of this that stands out above the Autotuned, robotic, repetitive garbage that makes up most (not all) of Christian entertainment.
@MedicBravo It does take humility to accept new information. Only a person that is humble can accept correction and will not automatically dismiss information that does not suit him.

You say that you can choose for yourself and do not need do anything.
However, God expects us to surrender to Him and to do everything that is according to His will and not our own. A Christian who takes the things of God seriously will not choose for themselves.
  • The bible says that our hearts are deceitful according to Jeremiah 17:9 and therefore it is not wise to choose for yourself because you are more likely to make the wrong choice. God needs to be consulted on every aspect on our lives and we should do thorough research on everything.
  • Proverbs 14:12 says, "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

Other than the book, I did mention that there is a lot of information online about rock music including interviews on YouTube. However, your lack of humility will not allow you to do the research because it will show that you are wrong.

Your view that Christian entertainment largely in all forms sucks is your own subjective personal opinion that not everyone believes.

Rock music is senseless music that has been proven by medical practitioners to greatly impair the frontal lobe of the human brain and causes people who listen to it not to reason clearly. Rock music has its origin in voodoo demonic worship. You cannot mix the things of the devil with the things of God. Such music does not glorify God and is detrimental to a person's spirituality.

Overall, I see that you have a problem with pride. If you will not take advice from anyone, then it is better not to post.
 
@Servant of God
No it does not. People learn new info all the time with OUT humility. IDK who taught you that nonsense.
I love to learn and in so many topics but that's not the point. I don't need to be "humble" to learn.
God didn't create mindless robots and your 2nd paragraph suggest we simply blindly follow orders. God wants followers who are of free will not by force.
God is our guide and we should choose to follow right? A non-Christian and a baby Christian would be far more like what is suggested of Jeremiah 17:9.
That's a broad statement and in both you leave out the preceding and post verses which are relevant.
Jeremiah 17 covers "The Depth of Judah's sin." specifically of the heart alone. The hear and mind together generally get the best results.
Proverbs 14 "The Contrast Between Wisdom and Folly". With God people tend to be better but without they are not. Mankind must have a higher authority to which he/she cannot affect.
A lot of people know Christian entertainment sucks. I never state my opinions are "everyone" but facts simply are.
Your 2nd to last is an opinion. You say it "impair the frontal lobe of the human brain...." but provide no evidence to support it.
From this you've likely avoided this genre of music and by your own admission you should humble yourself and learn something new.
Prove rock music came from the devil.
No pride.
"better not to post". Opinion.
Inference shows that you likely find some personal offense to this. I and many others have pointed out many flaws in it from an unbiased POV. We have experience and learning in Music development, movie and tv creation from plot and characters to set design, costumes, and even the script.
Good entertainment is not Hollywood entertainment and not what 99% of Christian entertainment is.
 
@Servant of God
No it does not. People learn new info all the time with OUT humility. IDK who taught you that nonsense.
I love to learn and in so many topics but that's not the point. I don't need to be "humble" to learn.
God didn't create mindless robots and your 2nd paragraph suggest we simply blindly follow orders. God wants followers who are of free will not by force.
God is our guide and we should choose to follow right? A non-Christian and a baby Christian would be far more like what is suggested of Jeremiah 17:9.
That's a broad statement and in both you leave out the preceding and post verses which are relevant.
Jeremiah 17 covers "The Depth of Judah's sin." specifically of the heart alone. The hear and mind together generally get the best results.
Proverbs 14 "The Contrast Between Wisdom and Folly". With God people tend to be better but without they are not. Mankind must have a higher authority to which he/she cannot affect.
A lot of people know Christian entertainment sucks. I never state my opinions are "everyone" but facts simply are.
Your 2nd to last is an opinion. You say it "impair the frontal lobe of the human brain...." but provide no evidence to support it.
From this you've likely avoided this genre of music and by your own admission you should humble yourself and learn something new.
Prove rock music came from the devil.
No pride.
"better not to post". Opinion.
Inference shows that you likely find some personal offense to this. I and many others have pointed out many flaws in it from an unbiased POV. We have experience and learning in Music development, movie and tv creation from plot and characters to set design, costumes, and even the script.
Good entertainment is not Hollywood entertainment and not what 99% of Christian entertainment is.
@MedicBravo You have beliefs that are based on your own personal opinion instead of facts which is a sign of the lack of maturity. You have concluded on matters without doing any research.
- You have not provided statistical facts that a lot of people know Christian entertainment sucks. Provide the links of such "facts".
- You have also decided to listen to rock music and concluded that God approves of it without doing thorough research on it.

When someone gives you information, you refuse to read it because it shows that your opinions are wrong.
Do you see that this is an additional sign that you lack maturity?

You say that I should prove that rock music is from the devil, but I have already given you one of the resources that you can read and you have not read it. The book covers all aspects including the mental and physical findings with references. I have already given you the proof, but you do not want to read it!
Instead of being humble and considering the possibility that you are wrong, you have decided to argue about the matter of "Christian" rock music.

Why are you arguing instead of reading the book that I have provided?
It is easier to argue because it is too humiliating for you to admit that you are wrong. You have a problem of pride.

Here is the link to the book again. https://d1yei2z3i6k35z.cloudfront.net/2636107/636e1a9d5fb5f_RockMusic.pdf

If you do not want to read the book, then why do you not research the matter online? You will not to because it will hurt your ego too much to realize that you are deceived.
A person who has pride does not want to admit that they are wrong and wants to stick to their old opinions.

Proverbs 16:18 says "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

I have already spoken more than enough about this matter, however, since you have pride, you will want to continue to argue.
 
@MedicBravo You have beliefs that are based on your own personal opinion instead of facts which is a sign of the lack of maturity. You have concluded on matters without doing any research.
- You have not provided statistical facts that a lot of people know Christian entertainment sucks. Provide the links of such "facts".
- You have also decided to listen to rock music and concluded that God approves of it without doing thorough research on it.

When someone gives you information, you refuse to read it because it shows that your opinions are wrong.
Do you see that this is an additional sign that you lack maturity?

You say that I should prove that rock music is from the devil, but I have already given you one of the resources that you can read and you have not read it. The book covers all aspects including the mental and physical findings with references. I have already given you the proof, but you do not want to read it!
Instead of being humble and considering the possibility that you are wrong, you have decided to argue about the matter of "Christian" rock music.

Why are you arguing instead of reading the book that I have provided?
It is easier to argue because it is too humiliating for you to admit that you are wrong. You have a problem of pride.

Here is the link to the book again. https://d1yei2z3i6k35z.cloudfront.net/2636107/636e1a9d5fb5f_RockMusic.pdf

If you do not want to read the book, then why do you not research the matter online? You will not to because it will hurt your ego too much to realize that you are deceived.
A person who has pride does not want to admit that they are wrong and wants to stick to their old opinions.

Proverbs 16:18 says "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

I have already spoken more than enough about this matter, however, since you have pride, you will want to continue to argue.
More assumptions. You're no authority especially when you know little about me. You certainly don't know how to infer things from words.
"Lack of maturity" - Your entire post is worthless b/c you went the lowest argument route: ad hominem. You'd be laughed out of any discussion by people who are experience and educated in these things.
I'll say it again. Not one person, the book they wrote, or any article or such is the definitive authoratative on anything. Humanity is flawed and no one decides anything for everyone else.
You've given nothing but opinions.
Since you decided to name call, this post and any following it is worthless. You lost emotional control and I can infer you think you are not only the "authority" on rock evil, bad music but pride as well which is the definition of it.
"I have already spoken more than enough about this matter, however, since you have pride, you will want to continue to argue" - This reeks of pride.
Rock is not of the devil.
 
More assumptions. You're no authority especially when you know little about me. You certainly don't know how to infer things from words.
"Lack of maturity" - Your entire post is worthless b/c you went the lowest argument route: ad hominem. You'd be laughed out of any discussion by people who are experience and educated in these things.
I'll say it again. Not one person, the book they wrote, or any article or such is the definitive authoratative on anything. Humanity is flawed and no one decides anything for everyone else.
You've given nothing but opinions.
Since you decided to name call, this post and any following it is worthless. You lost emotional control and I can infer you think you are not only the "authority" on rock evil, bad music but pride as well which is the definition of it.
"I have already spoken more than enough about this matter, however, since you have pride, you will want to continue to argue" - This reeks of pride.
Rock is not of the devil.
@MedicBravo Pray and ask God to give you are humble heart and remove pride from you.
 
Constant repeating the same false assumptions and baseless statements isn't going to change anything.
@MedicBravo They are not false, unless you can prove that they are false.

I am not going to continue with a conversation with someone who suffers from pride and is clearly immature.

I am going to ignore from now; however, you can continue with your mindless rambling.
 
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