Climate Change or just a Dying world as Proclaim by GOD subjected it to vanity and Bondage to decay.

[PloughBoy]

Climate Change or Just Dying? Subjected to Death. Bondage to Decay. In Bondage to Decay. No freewill here. Bondage. They know it is dying. But The thought of Bondage escapes them.

"For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God."

The ground was curse for Adams sake. No curse, no Jesus, no Jesus, no destroying of all creation, No dying of the old no Brand NEW Creation. Rejoice, your Redemption draws near. "A Rocket Scientist cannot figure that one out". But we can.


.It is painful to watch the hope of some people hope, is hopeless. And it hurts deep in heart when you know the Answer is "The HOPE of GLORY" and He have not arrive.

 

[Hekuran]

@PloughBoy does this give us license to continue polluting creation, or should we be preserving and caring for the environment?

 

[Waggles]

@PloughBoy does this give us license to continue polluting creation, or should we be preserving and caring for the environment?

"Caring" for the environment is a false morality - a feel good new age socialism full of the usual politics.
No morality on the fundamental issues of life - abortion of babies, marriage and families, divorce, sexuality, violence and crime, poverty, materialism, injustice, racism and ethnic violence, war, ungodliness ...
but let us put a stop to single use plastics. Save the dolphins. Go vegetarian and save the planet from cow farts.
WE cannot save this planet nor prevent her fate from occurring ... it is written - this world will burn fiercely and the wicked with it.
Global warming is not the crisis facing humankind, but rather moral warming.

 

[PloughBoy]

@PloughBoy does this give us license to continue polluting creation, or should we be preserving and caring for the environment?

No it does not give us a license to continue polluting creation.
But many of us still do not realize and believe who we really are & was before "conversion". "The Human race and what happen in the fall. And many do not believe GOD cursed the earth. The whole universe and condemn it to die by design. Many do not believe what happen and do not want to know what happen. But only want to see The Garden that man was driven out of, By The Command of GOD and never too return. and we do not want to see That TRUTH for we love darkness rather Light. {for progress of mankind is the condemnation of The WORLD} Our progress, destroy's "The whole world" The more we improve the world and our life, is only, destruction of the WORLD.

So we should take care of the earth still, but we all are sinners and that is what we do, we "Sin". Sinners sin. We are not sinners because we sin , we sin because we are sinners. Everybody is "CORRUPTED". And the only way a human can stop practicing sinning, that creature has to die, and become a completely Brand new creature "Born of GOD" and empowered By "The SPIRIT of The LIVING GOD" who becomes New Creatures with an "ADVOCATE" The PARACLETE" who stands along beside this NEW CREATURE as a "HELPER". to WALK in The Will of GOD., and have the ability to Love not this world and the things that are in it. And it takes the LOVE of GOD to be in them to do that. "Whosoever loves this world is a enemy of GOD" and we see it for what it is. Nothing but a instrument that is to be cast away. It is a loving "Instrument of GOD" to be used of GOD for HIS purpose and to be cast away and remembered no more when HE is finish with it.

A human cannot be allowed in heaven, he would tear it up, he or she would destroy it. Contaminate it , pollute everything there. One apple will destroy the whole barrel. They would corrupt Angels. The whole universe has been corrupt by their actions already. God has to destroy everything even Heaven to clean this mess up. Only New Creatures are going, those who are "Born of GOD" who Citizenship is of Heaven. No Transfers. No immigrants, No humans who has a change of mind and have decided to turn around and walk our way. The only way you can come through this door, You must be "Born of GOD" a completely brand "New CREATURE" not a new mind, nor a new way of thinking because Brains cannot enter here. if you are the same creature that came out of your mothers womb you cannot come here, you are not allowed. JESUS Said: "YOU Must be "BORN from ABOVE" he did not say; you must be "born again", for man said that! JESUS said: You Must be "Born from ABOVE" meaning "BORN of HEAVEN" meaning "BORN of GOD" and not by MAN or a new thought. But "Born from ABOVE"
And JESUS said: you cannot know How this is done. No one knows how a person can be "BORN From ABOVE"

[And it is impossible to be "born from above"by the will of our earthly mother or our earthly father, and we sure cannot brith ourselves, by our own will . for we do not have the ability to birth ourselves. How can a "Creature" birth itself when that Creature does not even "Exist" Unless that person is "Magician" pulling "Rabbits" out of a Hat. So if anyone who "Births" themselves with a "Heavenly Birth" Has to be a "Magician" because there is only ONE GOD and One Heaven. and "One WAY".] And if a person "creates" himself into a New Creature and that person does not exist I am lost for words, because there is only One GOD, and only One WAY.

This world is only a temporal instrument of GOD by design. Only To create a "Gift' for HIS only Begotten SON in whom HE LOVES. And Whosoever LOVES HIS SON, GOD the Father Will Love him.. And GOD the Father is not A Human, neither does He thinks like one , neither does he loves like one. And a Human being Thoughts of love, is nothing like the Thoughts of GOD, nothing in what ever Thoughts a Human can imagine cannot enter into the courts in The "Incomprehensible" on come near the gateways of "The Infinite".

I am speaking about "Our Father". and not by choice, But Chosen and Sanctified By HIM and HIM Alone. And nothing can stay HIS HAND concerning us. even the "finite" mind of a mere mortal. Cannot reach us or understand us or have the slightest idea who we are and what we shall be. For many think they are just like us but do not know "The TRUTH". because it is beyond them, and it is impossible for The Finite Mind of the mortal to conceive that we have pass already from death into "Eternal Life".

Is there one?

Yes, our improvement of life destroy's the world as well, every thing we touch is the touch of Death. Everything. And we cannot give life.

 

[MrBear]

What do you think about
GENESIS 6:11
11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence. 12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways.
I myself take it literal to mean the earth itself was corrupted by man
ENOCH:6
6. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And HEAL the earth which the angels have CORRUPTED, and proclaim the healing of the earth
Again the earth I take to be literal is corrupted
REVELATIONS 22
Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal,flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the HEALING of the nations
Again healing of the nations a new earth
Seems to me god is concerned about the welfare of his creation
And many examples of how the enemy looks to corrupt ALL of gods creation INCLUDING the earth which the father will make new
So any environmentalists should be embracing our father
SHALOM

 

[PloughBoy]

What do you think about
GENESIS 6:11
11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence. 12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways.
I myself take it literal to mean the earth itself was corrupted by man
ENOCH:6
6. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And HEAL the earth which the angels have CORRUPTED, and proclaim the healing of the earth
Again the earth I take to be literal is corrupted
REVELATIONS 22
Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal,flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the HEALING of the nations
Again healing of the nations a new earth
Seems to me god is concerned about the welfare of his creation
And many examples of how the enemy looks to corrupt ALL of gods creation INCLUDING the earth which the father will make new
So any environmentalists should be embracing our father
SHALOM

yes , i can understand you saying that earth was corrupt by man. But in essence. it was GOD that cursed and condemn mankind and the Universe.
Example: It was God the Father that sent His Son to the Cross. No one killed Jesus, He lay down His life and then raise it up from Grave. "No one takes my life , I lay it down"

Adam nor Eve nor the Devil Has "The Power" to curse the earth or to corrupted it. Remember GOD has "ALL POWER" He has it. Think, "In HIS POCKET" No one has it, and HE gives it out. In order to please "HIMSELF". He is Greater than power He hands out power. He does not need Power for HE is "GOD"! He is "SOVEREIGN" and The "Sovereignty of GOD" is Incomprehensible. and a "finite" mind cannot comprehend than which is "Incomprehensible"

Ok, next: GOD is concern with His Creation, whom HE command HIS Son to Create, The Devil, the Angels, Heaven, and all the other Creatures that are in Heavens and all that is Invisible. Jesus The Word of GOD Created all creation. So says the Bible. Because His father told Him to do it. Jesus does nothing on His own, He does everything The father tells HIM, No questions ask. The biggest problem with us, The "children of GOD" we do not have the desire or want to believe "THE TRUTH" because of Our Corrupted nature. Some of US are "Adopted" by GOD, By A "Miracle" and been made a "NEW CREATURE" Before "The Foundation of The World" The text: "didn't you plant Good Seed here, where did all of those bad seeds come from"?

I do not think, you are ready yet. Because when the LIGHT come ON. It is going to scare you to death! Really! And you thought you knew what "grace" and "mercy" is. ......Now I have to stop right there. on that one. When Jesus show you "TRUTH" you cannot run neither can you hide from "The TRUTH" And "Hermeneutics" ain't going to explain it away. Your Thank you JESUS, is going to take on another flavor.....moving on.


Satan is not GOD's enemy. Micheal the Arch Angel has more power than Satan, Strongs Angels has more power than Satan. Jesus created satan, he and the demons obeys Jesus in the Bible. the bible says Satan is at war with US, and the deceiver of the whole world, Satan is the prince and the GOD of This WORLD. GOD created HIM for us.. Many Christians will say GOD is at war with satan. When making a statement like that, You know they have not read or understood their Bible. You do not even have to think about. It is obvious. If they miss that, you know "A little leaven corrupts the whole lump". And it written down there in black and white. And you wonder, how can they miss this. GOD is At WAR with Satan" and a angel is more powerful than satan. through out the Bible.

Some christians it may take them 10 -40 years to understand this just a little bit what this means or will never in this world understand this. because they really don't care. And it is our nature And it is understandable.

[All creation is suffering because of the curse place on it by GOD. everything that has life in it is suffering, The Air, The stars, the dirt, the water, all animal life, visible and invisible, all vegetation, the rocks, all Creation, in heaven and on earth. Waiting For The "GLORIFICATION of The Sons of GOD" Our Glorification is their redemption and freedom from decay. Every bug, every bush, every blade of Glass. The Bible the Word of GOD declares not me. To me if anyone just read the Book is plainly seen. I did not say verses The Bible is story Book about "Salvation" it is a "BOOK" Bible means BOOK. and a lot people eats it, like sticking their hands in a popcorn bag. I never started out that way, It was only one BOOK and I started to read just like they taught in "Reading Readiness" when I was 5 years old. Read the "introduction" then read the "Preface", how to use it the references ,how to use the illustrations, what each book is about, what year each book was written who wrote it. Had my dictionary right be side me. it was hard. I had to look up words, I had to bring out my old high school english grammar books. And that is all i had. From front to back, then again then again. I thought every christian was supposed to remember the whole. So i was on a mission i am going to remember every word in here by memory . I was so dumb, they thought I was crazy. remembering the whole BIBLE. In KJV, NIV,ASV,RSV, not only will i remember them. I am going know who translated the KJV the whole Committee, I going to know their names and their specialty in the Biblical Text. A couple of them was "drunks" and some did not even believe in GOD, They didn't care they was getting paid for translating skills, and there was no Bias. And I found out about King James. he wasn't even a Christian, but Politics as usually Him and that Pope. i went deep in glass libraries in anti dust rooms pulling my little babies in strollers catching the bus.


I found out, it seems no body reading the bible but me, it seems. No body but me. I am getting mad now. every body asking me where this at in the bible. "LOOK it Up yourself" and stop calling me

Ok that was the break.

The new earth means a new creation.. The "new" will be nothing that your mind is Capable to contain. or any kind of mind. Flesh and Blood cannot receive this "Truth" it TAKES a "Infinite" CREATURE or who has "IMMORTALITY" to receive THIS TRUTH , and to contain it upon appearance. And "THE MANIFESTATION oF Our "CLORIFICATION" out shines all "ETERNITY" and The NEW "WORLD" for we will be, The STARS that will Manifest HIS GLORY" throughout "ETERNITY".

That is why we read our book and many other sit around with, and, in "religion" and religious ways and set their sights on the religious things and studies of this world and have term it a "worshipping" and "fellowshipping of GOD". And compelling others to follow in such ways. And On that road that is wide, and many travel on that path. And many will try to convince you, that you are on the wrong Road , that only a few travel. And you very seldom , meet, another "Pilgrim"

Just keep reading your Bible over and over again. And stay away from easy modern day translations. read pre 1984 copyrights excellent translations. and pray as you read to GOD. If GOD alone cannot help you. I would leave it alone.

And if a person has not "mastered' the 66 Canon of Scripture" how can anyone have the time to read Non-canonical Books? Non-canonical are not GOD breathe and boring to me.

But each student to his own way. And the field he or she feels comfortable.

 

[MrBear]

yes , i can understand you saying that earth was corrupt by man. But in essence. it was GOD that cursed and condemn mankind and the Universe.
Example: It was God the Father that sent His Son to the Cross. No one killed Jesus, He lay down His life and then raise it up from Grave. "No one takes my life , I lay it down"

Adam nor Eve nor the Devil Has "The Power" to curse the earth or to corrupted it. Remember GOD has "ALL POWER" He has it. Think, "In HIS POCKET" No one has it, and HE gives it out. In order to please "HIMSELF". He is Greater than power He hands out power. He does not need Power for HE is "GOD"! He is "SOVEREIGN" and The "Sovereignty of GOD" is Incomprehensible. and a "finite" mind cannot comprehend than which is "Incomprehensible"

Ok, next: GOD is concern with His Creation, whom HE command HIS Son to Create, The Devil, the Angels, Heaven, and all the other Creatures that are in Heavens and all that is Invisible. Jesus The Word of GOD Created all creation. So says the Bible. Because His father told Him to do it. Jesus does nothing on His own, He does everything The father tells HIM, No questions ask. The biggest problem with us, The "children of GOD" we do not have the desire or want to believe "THE TRUTH" because of Our Corrupted nature. Some of US are "Adopted" by GOD, By A "Miracle" and been made a "NEW CREATURE" Before "The Foundation of The World" The text: "didn't you plant Good Seed here, where did all of those bad seeds come from"?

I do not think, you are ready yet. Because when the LIGHT come ON. It is going to scare you to death! Really! And you thought you knew what "grace" and "mercy" is. ......Now I have to stop right there. on that one. When Jesus show you "TRUTH" you cannot run neither can you hide from "The TRUTH" And "Hermeneutics" ain't going to explain it away. Your Thank you JESUS, is going to take on another flavor.....moving on.


Satan is not GOD's enemy. Micheal the Arch Angel has more power than Satan, Strongs Angels has more power than Satan. Jesus created satan, he and the demons obeys Jesus in the Bible. the bible says Satan is at war with US, and the deceiver of the whole world, Satan is the prince and the GOD of This WORLD. GOD created HIM for us.. Many Christians will say GOD is at war with satan. When making a statement like that, You know they have not read or understood their Bible. You do not even have to think about. It is obvious. If they miss that, you know "A little leaven corrupts the whole lump". And it written down there in black and white. And you wonder, how can they miss this. GOD is At WAR with Satan" and a angel is more powerful than satan. through out the Bible.

Some christians it may take them 10 -40 years to understand this just a little bit what this means or will never in this world understand this. because they really don't care. And it is our nature And it is understandable.

[All creation is suffering because of the curse place on it by GOD. everything that has life in it is suffering, The Air, The stars, the dirt, the water, all animal life, visible and invisible, all vegetation, the rocks, all Creation, in heaven and on earth. Waiting For The "GLORIFICATION of The Sons of GOD" Our Glorification is their redemption and freedom from decay. Every bug, every bush, every blade of Glass. The Bible the Word of GOD declares not me. To me if anyone just read the Book is plainly seen. I did not say verses The Bible is story Book about "Salvation" it is a "BOOK" Bible means BOOK. and a lot people eats it, like sticking their hands in a popcorn bag. I never started out that way, It was only one BOOK and I started to read just like they taught in "Reading Readiness" when I was 5 years old. Read the "introduction" then read the "Preface", how to use it the references ,how to use the illustrations, what each book is about, what year each book was written who wrote it. Had my dictionary right be side me. it was hard. I had to look up words, I had to bring out my old high school english grammar books. And that is all i had. From front to back, then again then again. I thought every christian was supposed to remember the whole. So i was on a mission i am going to remember every word in here by memory . I was so dumb, they thought I was crazy. remembering the whole BIBLE. In KJV, NIV,ASV,RSV, not only will i remember them. I am going know who translated the KJV the whole Committee, I going to know their names and their specialty in the Biblical Text. A couple of them was "drunks" and some did not even believe in GOD, They didn't care they was getting paid for translating skills, and there was no Bias. And I found out about King James. he wasn't even a Christian, but Politics as usually Him and that Pope. i went deep in glass libraries in anti dust rooms pulling my little babies in strollers catching the bus.


I found out, it seems no body reading the bible but me, it seems. No body but me. I am getting mad now. every body asking me where this at in the bible. "LOOK it Up yourself" and stop calling me

Ok that was the break.

The new earth means a new creation.. The "new" will be nothing that your mind is Capable to contain. or any kind of mind. Flesh and Blood cannot receive this "Truth" it TAKES a "Infinite" CREATURE or who has "IMMORTALITY" to receive THIS TRUTH , and to contain it upon appearance. And "THE MANIFESTATION oF Our "CLORIFICATION" out shines all "ETERNITY" and The NEW "WORLD" for we will be, The STARS that will Manifest HIS GLORY" throughout "ETERNITY".

That is why we read our book and many other sit around with, and, in "religion" and religious ways and set their sights on the religious things and studies of this world and have term it a "worshipping" and "fellowshipping of GOD". And compelling others to follow in such ways. And On that road that is wide, and many travel on that path. And many will try to convince you, that you are on the wrong Road , that only a few travel. And you very seldom , meet, another "Pilgrim"

Just keep reading your Bible over and over again. And stay away from easy modern day translations. read pre 1984 copyrights excellent translations. and pray as you read to GOD. If GOD alone cannot help you. I would leave it alone.

And if a person has not "mastered' the 66 Canon of Scripture" how can anyone have the time to read Non-canonical Books? Non-canonical are not GOD breathe and boring to me.

But each student to his own way. And the field he or she feels comfortable.

Thank you for sharing that brother
Shalom

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Climate Change or Just Dying? Subjected to Death. Bondage to Decay. In Bondage to Decay. No freewill here. Bondage. They know it is dying. But The thought of Bondage escapes them.

"For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God."

The ground was curse for Adams sake. No curse, no Jesus, no Jesus, no destroying of all creation, No dying of the old no Brand NEW Creation. Rejoice, your Redemption draws near. "A Rocket Scientist cannot figure that one out". But we can.


.It is painful to watch the hope of some people hope, is hopeless. And it hurts deep in heart when you know the Answer is "The HOPE of GLORY" and He have not arrive.

Global warming is a giant hoax, just like a certain pandemic. Leave it alone and nothing will happen.

 

[PloughBoy]

American Standard Version
For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but by reason of him who subjected it, in hope

The Day of the Lord
"The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance. But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and its works will be laid bare. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to conduct yourselves in holiness and godliness…"

And our GOD does not lie, "The Day of The LORD will come." whether we believe it or not. He is going to Destroy it. And Created something Brand NEW, "That eyes have not seen"

Isaiah 51:6
"Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look at the earth below; for the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment, and its people will die like gnats. But My salvation will last forever, and My righteousness will never fail."

Salvation for Zion (Isaiah 51)BSB
"My righteousness draws near, My Salvation is on The Way, and My arms will bring justice to the nations. The islands will look for Me and wait in hope for My arm. Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look at the earth below; for the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment, and its people will die like gnats. But My salvation will last forever, and My righteousness will never fail. Listen to Me, you who know what is right, you people with My law in your hearts: Do not fear the scorn of men; do not be broken by their insults.…"

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.
Romans 8:20
For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope.

New American Standard Bible
while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen; for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

[Do you see them too, that which is far off. And are you assured, and are you a Stranger, and pilgrim here to on earth?]
New King James Version
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

[Pay Attention: The WORD of GOD is Only For The "Elect" of GOD and not for The World. But for those who has The ears to hear.]

 

[PloughBoy]

I going to repeat these words again.......And i am not going to sound Like a Christian. But one of the "sons of The Living GOD". The sufferings of the worlds people can only be alleviated by The Coming of "The SON of The LIVING GOD". to usher in HIS KINGDOM like HE promise. And it is always on my mind. And the SPIRIT of GOD is carrying our prayers to HIS Throne. because we do not know what to pray for. And the prayers we pray for is not selfless prayers, because the "SPIRIT of The LIVING GOD Pray's for us. on Their behave. So we search the Skies for HIS return. For our GOD is teaching us, How to Reign and How to rule with HIM. And not the ways and the thoughts patterns of The Religious WORLD. But by The WAY of GOD that cannot be "comprehended" by corrupted Religious minds. But Reveal in The Person of "JESUS CHRIST" The "Tetragrammaton". For the winds and storms, and the weather does not Bother "JESUS" The heat of The SUN The Breath of The COLD obeys HIM. And HE can purify water by command, and he can feed a "Million" wth a "TOAD" and all will be full. "Buddha' can't do that Neither can "Confucius". And he don't need your vote. Neither 'Karl Marx'.

You see, a lot christians needs and wants "politicians". But A "True Child of GOD" knows we need JESUS to return. And that is the answer, period. A crumbling world has no affect on HIM. And He still can feed the Hungry in the mist of the storm. and a drop of water will not even drop on you head in that mist for "Thousand years". you don't need Coal, Oil, Gasoline, or electricity. you do not need anything to power anything when HE gets here, Because GOD has given "ALL POWER" just hit the switch. or push the button. 'VAroom" putt, putt.. Shell oil out of business, "GE" too They do not want JESUS to show up. Modern day Pharisees. No more "Coffers". Pope, out of business, airlines too. LAS VEGAS is going to be outside of The GATE.

Jeff Bozo, Bill Gates, Wall Street, JEZABEL, Deliah, Sugar Daddy's, Bugatti's, Beyonce's Somebody got to be outside of the GATE 12 GATES TO THE CITY. AND only a few can go in and out. SOMEBODY HAS TO Help RULE these "Hoodlums" with a Iron Scepter for a thousand years.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Climate Change or Just Dying?

Just "CLimate change - probably part of a normal cycle, about which puny "Man" can do little or nothing, his "Science" based on conjecture.

 

[PloughBoy]

Just "CLimate change - probably part of a normal cycle, about which puny "Man" can do little or nothing, his "Science" based on conjecture.

And science says it is impossible for Him to get up from The Grave. And if it is impossible for HIM to get Up, Science says, HE ain't coming. back! Because He never left. So follow The Science. "Dead men don't walk". And I say, me "Ploughboy" you right! dead men don't walk, He is ALIVE! and HE is coming Back!

 

[Hekuran]

Climate Change or Just Dying? Subjected to Death. Bondage to Decay. In Bondage to Decay. No freewill here. Bondage. They know it is dying. But The thought of Bondage escapes them.

This is only half the story. Creation will also be released from the bondage to decay. Romans 8 also says,

For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

And we may not be able to imagine completely what the new creation will be like, but we do know something of expected hope

“See, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind.
But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create,
for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight
and its people a joy.
I will rejoice over Jerusalem
and take delight in my people;
the sound of weeping and of crying
will be heard in it no more.

“Never again will there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not live out his years;
the one who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere child;
the one who fails to reach[a] a hundred
will be considered accursed.
They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the work of their hands.
They will not labor in vain,
nor will they bear children doomed to misfortune;
for they will be a people blessed by the Lord,
they and their descendants with them.
Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear.
The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox,
and dust will be the serpent’s food.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,”
says the Lord.

 

[Hekuran]

I should have copied a little more of the Romans 8 passage

I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

The pain that creation is in is not the pain of death, it's the labour pains of the new creation.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Just "CLimate change - probably part of a normal cycle, about which puny "Man" can do little or nothing, his "Science" based on conjecture.

That's true....They're so worried about the world warming up...I wonder how cold it was when trees grew at the north pole areas.. There are petrified trees in the north polar regions which were alive a while back.. The polar bear population is growing, and the ice caps are growing too

 

[Bob Carabbio]

And science says it is impossible for Him to get up from The Grave. And if it is impossible for HIM to get Up, Science says, HE ain't coming. back! Because He never left. So follow The Science. "Dead men don't walk". And I say, me "Ploughboy" you right! dead men don't walk, He is ALIVE! and HE is coming Back!

After my FIrst heart attack, "Science" told me that I had to avoid dietary Cholesterol, and Saturated fats. 30 years later, "Science" tells me that it's actually SUGAR, and carbohydrates that turn into sugar, that are the problem. SO much for "Science".

 

[Waggles]

After my FIrst heart attack, "Science" told me that I had to avoid dietary Cholesterol, and Saturated fats. 30 years later, "Science" tells me that it's actually SUGAR, and carbohydrates that turn into sugar, that are the problem. SO much for "Science".

Yes well put.
Eggs were bad food now eggs are good food.
Dairy products were a no-no, and then people got vitamin deficiencies and margarines proved to have killer trans fats. Now dairy is good.
Whole less processed foods are better and plenty of fibre helps gut health.
Our grandparents knew a thing or two without science.

 

[Hekuran]

This looks like a 'dead cat' approach to debate. One side realises is has everything to lose from pursuing a conversation based on facts, logic and reason, so throw a 'dead cat' in the room. Something so objectionable, disgusting or ridiculous that attention is diverted from the important issue.

I don't believe for a second that @Admon Mikha'el really thinks the ice caps are growing.

My question: as a Christian, why spread lies?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

This looks like a 'dead cat' approach to debate. One side realises is has everything to lose from pursuing a conversation based on facts, logic and reason, so throw a 'dead cat' in the room. Something so objectionable, disgusting or ridiculous that attention is diverted from the important issue.

I don't believe for a second that @Admon Mikha'el really thinks the ice caps are growing.

My question: as a Christian, why spread lies?

Admon Mikha'el certainly does believe that the ice caps are growing....The same scientists that claim otherwise show a picture of an OLD TOOTHLESS polar bear and claim the polar bears are starving because of melting polar ice....No...Old bears often look that way in normal conditions....Just like old lions or old anything even old people. Some people need to stop listening to biased government and start doing their own research.

 

[Hekuran]

Admon Mikha'el certainly does believe that the ice caps are growing....The same scientists that claim otherwise show a picture of an OLD TOOTHLESS polar bear and claim the polar bears are starving because of melting polar ice....No...Old bears often look that way in normal conditions....Just like old lions or old anything even old people. Some people need to stop listening to biased government and start doing their own research.

What has led you to believe the ice caps are growing?