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Do you think upon HIS arrival They will say or state There has been a UFO Sighting
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No. I believe every one will see the Bridegroom and then afterwards the first angel will spread the gospel every where so every one will know the gospel before destruction comes on that third of the earth ( western hemisphere ) that will be announced by the second angel of the fall of Babylon USA and then the 3rd angel warning every one of the consequence for taking the mark of the beast to buy & sell is the lake of fire so no one will be without excuse.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
That fiery calamity and the need to survive after that will probably be the temptation that shall make those decide which is more important; believing in Jesus Christ Whom they have seen or take the mark to survive in the coming New World Order.
I doubt the world's media can spin UFO's to explain seeing Him away but they may try mass hysteria to get people to ignore the warning and take the mark to survive.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
That fiery calamity and the need to survive after that will probably be the temptation that shall make those decide which is more important; believing in Jesus Christ Whom they have seen or take the mark to survive in the coming New World Order.
I doubt the world's media can spin UFO's to explain seeing Him away but they may try mass hysteria to get people to ignore the warning and take the mark to survive.
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Honestly I do think, you have the “First resurrection” and The Second coming of Christ, and the event that will take place after the 1000 year Reign all mix up together. And I do believe you have Absolutely No idea what I am talking about!
And I do understand your Dilemma. And you may proceed as usual, and don’t worry you are not alone in such matters. I am Quite sure their are millions. Both sleeping and alive.
But one day, it all will be revealed, and all of the delusions and assumptions will come to rest.
He will be judging His House first for why saved believers in unrepentant iniquity as well as former believers will get left behind, but they are still saved because that foundation is assured as that seal of adoption is for He is faithful in the keeping of the souls of His saints that shall suffer being left behind for when they die, their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven awaiting for their resurrection after the great tribulation..
1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.
20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
So there is a race to be run, not for obtaining salvation when those left behind are still saved, but for obtaining the incorruptible crown by His grace & by His work thus avoiding being a castaway when the Bridegroom comes.
Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure....
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:....
11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
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Strange with all that “Post it” stickers you have not realized we are in The Judgment!He will be judging His House first for why saved believers in unrepentant iniquity as well as former believers will get left behind, but they are still saved because that foundation is assured as that seal of adoption is for He is faithful in the keeping of the souls of His saints that shall suffer being left behind for when they die, their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven awaiting for their resurrection after the great tribulation..
1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.
20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
So there is a race to be run, not for obtaining salvation when those left behind are still saved, but for obtaining the incorruptible crown by His grace & by His work thus avoiding being a castaway when the Bridegroom comes.
Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure....
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:....
11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
What are you having, a “Rip Van Winkle” moment?
Well, Jesus is not having a Rip Van Wrinkle moment. When He judges, you will know it i that day when all the nations shall see Him at the rapture event when He appears as the Bridegroom judging His House then for that is when saved believers not found abiding in Him are left behind to die but their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven in spite of missing out on the first fruits of the resurrection to be that vessel unto honor in His House, but instead to be resurrected after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House, the vessels of wood & earth, to serve the King of kings on earth in raising up the generations coming during His particular 1000 year reign on earth.
So you still have time to get ready by His grace & by His help and stay ready by Him as well as Him helping you being willing to go in leaving your treasures & your lives behind before He comes to judge His House in that day.
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How dare you! Even have the “GALL” to even mention The SON of The Living GOD as if he could be on the same page as a Rip van winkle, Fictitious Character.
I tell You, I am on my best behaviour, if I was not, I might have gave you some words you ain’t never heard! But I am commanded concerning my “Pearls”!
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(John 8:15 KJV) Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
(Matthew 7:2 KJV) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
(Matthew 12:37 KJV) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
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UFOs... they're just angels of light.
The real interesting question would be are there any members here besides me who have seen any ??
Rhema
I've seen UFOs periodically throughout my life. This is one of the reasons I adhere to stay watchful.
Revelation 3
3 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
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I've never needed to move past this verse:
(Matthew 25:13 KJV) Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
(Then again, the Apocalypse of John aka. "Revelations" is not in our canon.)
PM the details if you wish. Not many are open to such discussions, even now.
Thank you,
Rhema
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Yes, the reason, we have entered a covenant relationship with The 66 “Canon of Holy Scripture”
some have entered the 73 canon, some the 81 books canon. “Bible introduction 101” class. For it is not a Elective class.
It is a must before you study any parts of The Bible. In other words “Kindergarten B”. Your “ABC’s”!
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And yet our number is different than those - a canon established and protected by the Apostle Thomas, centuries before the Catholic Church made their list.Yes, the reason, we have entered a covenant relationship with The 66 “Canon of Holy Scripture”
Ahh well... maybe "Bible Introduction 102" needs to be taken by some.
Rhema
(I would encourage everyone to have a relationship with the living God, not a book.)
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Those things does not matter as long as you perceive the “Salvation Story” and Since GOD is GOD it is presented in “The Canon Of Scripture” within The 66 books of The Authoritative text, whether a person can perceive it or not.
Of Course a Christian worldly view of the “Biblical text” is a completely different matter.
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In order for anyone to believe this, Ploughboy, they'll have to accept what the bible says about Pretrib rapture.....Personally I agree with this in that the missing people will be accounted to the unworthy being taken off the planet so the rest can attain the next step in our evolution.....a part of the great deception....Many "Christians" will be caught with their pants down and will fall for this too. But it will not be upon His arrival...It will be immediately after the rapture| EarthSky
