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Does GOD has The Control over Climate Change or does Mankind, BUT Since GOD is SOVEREIGN, THE ALMIGHTY GOD, Then Who Rules and Commands The Climate

PloughBoy

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Now I am referring to The GOD that made "light and Darkness" He created not only The Universe but "Time" and "Eternity" and "Heaven" is just a "Temporary" place, that HE has made. Now WHO, controls and created, The Climate and The water you drink?

(JOB 38)ESV
Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:


Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?.......... [State your name and occupation please]:eyes:
Dress for action like a man;
I will question you, and you make it known to me!

“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.

Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
On what were its bases sunk,

or who laid its cornerstone,
when the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Speak up! We all going to listen. :eyes: Opinions, Speculations, Scientific-data, come one, come all! "Climate Control":eyes:
 
God created the natural order - including the climate - as a dynamic interdepedent set of systems. Whatever happens in one part affects every other part.

When the air is filled with pollution, it has an effect on the climate. Almost everywhere we have seen a change in the climate. Hotter summers, more extreme weather events etc.

In Genesis, God commanded humans to rule and steward his earth. So we ought to take responsibility for how we care for his creation.
 
You said: "

"God created the natural order - including the climate - as a dynamic interdepedent set of systems. Whatever happens in one part affects every other part."

So
you are saying, GOD is like a "Computer Programmer" a "Systems Analyst" like me. I don't think HE uses The "If Than ELSE"

In computer programming, ?: is a ternary operator that is part of the syntax for basic conditional expressions in several programming languages. It is commonly referred to as the conditional operator, inline if (iif), or ternary if. An expression a ? b : c evaluates to b if the value of a is true, and otherwise to c .

Conditional (computer programming) - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Conditional_(compute...

If–then(–else) — The if–then construct (sometimes called if–then–else ) is common across many programming languages. Although the syntax ...


No sir "set of systems" "that Dog won't hunt":eyes: I tried that approach over 40 years ago. I do have a degree in "Computer Science" and was taught in 3 Computer Languages.

That is one of the reason my "Biblical Stance" is so "Systematic" and it help me to understand "Theology Proper" and Systematic Theology.:pensive: So let us not even go there.:pensive:

Next: "you said":
"In Genesis, God commanded humans to rule and steward his earth. So we ought to take responsibility for how we care for his creation."

Yes, HE did, Then ADAM gave up that right, when He "Fell" the very day he ate from that Tree he DIED! "GOD does not lie!" We might not understand "BUT" GOD does not lie! After ADAM ate, he could not pat The LION in The Jungle, He could NOT touch the "BEHEMOTH" that roam the land, He could not swim with the "LEVIATHAN" WHO'S home is of the Oceans floors. Adam and Eve could no longer run with the "Leopards" nor ride The Backs of The Yellow, Black Stripped :"TIGERS", The very ones in whom he name, as GOD brought each one to him and Adam gave them names. He lost that right, and that right fell to another creature who GOD had made and HIs Name is "The Adversary" For ADAM had DIED to all rights, and became a "SLAVE" into The "BONDAGE of SIN". Instead of Ruling the World He Became a "Prey":pensive: The Whole world became his enemy. the Sun, the wind, the birds, the weather, the oceans, the bees, The Locus, The Mosquitoes, The Wolf, even the "Night" "BUT" GOD still had mercy and Left one Thing he can "RULE" over. "And your Husband shall "RULE" over you" and you are not going to like it!

One must 1st. Understand, after He has been "Born From ABOVE" He must start from The Beginning and that Beginning is called "Genesis" and ask GOD to give you understand. And Help you understand The FALL! "The Original SIN" ADAM DIED ! You must begin in Genesis from The Beginning and Track through the "Wilderness" until You get to The Promise LAND and That Promise Land is Not The Land of "CANAAN". And If, you decide to take the "Short cut" by climbing through a window or some other way, you only hurts your own self and those who follow you:pensive:


I did not take a short cut, I started and began with "ALPHA" and going on with The Omega":pensive: I did not start with a preacher or minster teaching me anything, but told me Read MY BIBLE. I did not have a Sunday teacher who did not know the difference between "Sanctification" and "Holiness". and that what is "pure' and that what is "impure". a person who have not Read the BOOK.

New King James Version
but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”
New American Standard Bible
but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for on the day that you eat from it you will certainly die.
NASB 1995
but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”

Many christians claims that they are "believers".
But they do not believe GOD's WORD. "BUT" they do their bust to explain it away.:pensive:


English Standard Version
Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.
[Trust in THE WORD of GOD with all your heart, and do no lean on your own understanding] HIS WORD is "The SOLID ROCK":pensive: "Rightly divided".

PS.

New King James Version
Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.
New American Standard Bible
Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.

2 Corinthians 4:4
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

New International Version
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. [everybody do not know this] but "We know"

(LUKE 4)BSB
"Then the devil led Him up to a high place and showed Him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. “I will give You authority over all these kingdoms and all their glory,” he said. For it has been relinquished to me, and I can give it to anyone I wish. 7So if You worship me, it will all be Yours.”

Satan did not lie.


And here is a "Nugget". The bible says: The Sun stood still.

The Day the Sun Stood Still (Joshua 10:13)BSB
"On the day that the LORD gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the LORD in the presence of Israel: “O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.” So the sun stood still and the moon stopped until the nation took vengeance upon its enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? “So the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.”

GOD did not make the SUN stand still:pensive: GOD made The EARTH STOP TURNING on IT"S AXIS. And we all know that The EARTH turns at the speed of over 1,000 mph. And GOD stop it. In mid day and made it stand still, for The SUN never moves. Now what kind of "SYSTEMS" is that?

Do you know what will happen if the EARTH Stops turning! Total CHAOS!

IF the earth stop spinning at once. it would be enormously catastrophic for much of the planet’s surface. Though we don’t feel it, we’re all moving along with the planet as it rotates; at the equator, this works out to around 1,000 miles per hour. Stop the planet suddenly, and everything sitting on top of it would go flying eastward. Imagine people, houses, trees, boulders and more being launched sideways at hundreds of miles an hour. In the aftermath, high speed winds, still rotating nearly as fast as the planet, would scour the surface clean.


No God Has not let the earth to a "dynamic interdependent set of systems." HE is not a man He is "THE TETRAGRAMMATON" :pensive: And HIS ways are pass finding out. The finite cannot "comprehend the Incomprehensible".
 
Oh boy. No, I didn't say God is like a computer programmer. He's like a father, a king, a judge.
 
Gen 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

Dan 2:20 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
Dan 2:21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
 
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

The fact that God gave us dominion is the best reason to care for His gifts and not to abuse them.
 
Oh boy. No, I didn't say God is like a computer programmer. He's like a father, a king, a judge.
Did not you make this statement?
"God created the natural order - including the climate - as God created the natural order - including the climate - as a dynamic interdepedent set of systems. Whatever happens in one part affects every other part.. Whatever happens in one part affects every other part."

That is a "COMPUTER Programmer" and that is how your COMPUTER Work. Many people only just think you hit a button and it works.! it works programs upon programs. A computer is not A Type writer. It is a "COMPLEX SET OF SYSTEMS".

you made the statement, not me. "God created the natural order - as a dynamic interdependent set of systems."

(What is an interdependent system)
Interdependence means that complex systems depend on other systems to be able to operate. Highly interdependent systems are called “tightly coupled” systems. The more tightly coupled these systems are, the more they will be affected by failures on the systems they depend on.

(What is Dynamic Interdependence)
. An effect that changes over time as two or more agents interact. Agents perceive change as continuous although it acts discretely; for example, eye saccades and blinks in humans mostly occur too quickly to disrupt the awareness of interaction continuity.

"The word 'system' is derived from the Greek word systema, which describes a set of entities that interact in an orderly and organized fashion. Today, the word is widely applied to everything from political systems to solar systems."

"Theology proper is the sub-discipline of systematic theology which deals specifically with the being, attributes and works of God. In Christian theology, and within the Trinitarian setting, this study includes: Paterology, Christology, and Pneumatology"

You have been better off, saying yes, in a somewhat way in "Anthropomorphic" terms, God is like a computer programmer. But for many has not a full view into or understanding Biblical Predestination. "Thy Will be Done" as in Heaven so on earth. for HE is The "Potter" and we are The Clay"

God is a lot more than a Father, a lot more Than a King, HE MAKES KINGS, HE IS more than a judge, He makes Judges, who will Judge The WORLD and ANGELS.
"THE TETRAGRAMMATON"

You was during alright and you back down. :eyes:
 
I think the computer programmer analogy is weak because it doesn't account for God's on going care for his creation.

A good programmer writes code to perform a set of function. If the program is well written, it can just run and needs no further input.

God is not like that with creation. He is intimately and continuously involved - creator and sustainer.
 
God created... God destroyed.

God gives life... God takes it away.

Climate change :joy::joy::joy:

Those of us who are old enough remember when summers were summers and winters were winters. How it has changed in the last 50 years!

As the days of Noah were... in every way I think, and it was Jesus that quoted those words. Thank you Lord.

People then didn't believe Noah, God will flood the whole world :joy:

They still don't believe it, they focus on the flood and not the sin which was the reason for the flood.

Climate change is man's way of searching for a reason, the Bible tells us famines will increase it also says there will be raging waters in diverse places, God is in control, worse is to come, God is shaking the world people are so set in their comfortable lives, with the luxuries they take for granted. God allows suffering, why, because if he didn't even less world turn from their sins.

God is incontrol, to Him be the Glory.
 
I think the computer programmer analogy is weak because it doesn't account for God's on going care for his creation.
A good programmer writes code to perform a set of function. If the program is well written, it can just run and needs no further input.
God is not like that with creation. He is intimately and continuously involved - creator and sustainer.
Correction: A Computer Programmer does not write "CODE". A Computer CODER writes CODE. A CODER and a PROGRAMMER is Like the Difference between "Night and DAY".

Do not go there, I can write "Code" and "write Computer Programming" I have also worked as a "Systems Analyst"

Don't go there. :pensive:
 
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