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Dow down 778, worst point drop ever

Chad

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Stocks crushed

Dow down 778, worst point drop ever, after the House rejects the $700 billion bank bailout plan.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks skidded Monday afternoon, with the Dow's nearly 778-point drop being the worst single-day point loss ever, after the House rejected the government's $700 billion bank bailout plan.

Stocks tumbled ahead of the vote and the selling accelerated on fears that Congress would not be able come up with a fix for nearly frozen credit markets. The frozen markets mean banks are hoarding cash, making it difficult for businesses and individuals to get much-needed loans. (Full story)

According to preliminary tallies, the Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) lost 777.68, surpassing the 684.81 loss on Sept. 17, 2001 - the first trading day after the September 11 attacks. However the 7% decline does not rank among the top 10 percentage declines.

The Standard & Poor's 500 (SPX) index was down 8.7% and the Nasdaq composite (COMP) 9.1%.

"The stock market was definitely taken by surprise," said Drew Kanaly, chairman and CEO of Kanaly Trust Company, referring to the House vote. "If you watched the news stream over the weekend, it seemed like it was a done deal. But the money is being held hostage to the political process."

Stocks had fallen from the get-go Monday morning. In addition to expectations for the bailout, there was also news that troubled Wachovia had to sell its banking assets to Citigroup. A number of European banks also collapsed.

But the possibility that the House won't pass the bailout plan caused stock losses to accelerate.

"It's a huge disappointment," said Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at Harris Private Bank.

Ablin said the fact that stocks were down more than 200 points this morning ahead of the vote indicated that there was already skepticism that the plan would pass.

Although another version of the plan will likely go before Congress, investors are concerned that passing the bill could be a more drawn-out process.

And they are worried about how effective the proposed plan would be anyway, said Alan Gayle, senior investment strategist at RidgeWorth Investments.

"We are charting new territory in policy tools and implementation with this program and there's no guarantee that it will work," Gayle said.
"That a number of institutions haven't been able to last through the negotiations adds to the uncertainty," Gayle said, referring to Washington Mutual's failure on Friday and the buyout of Wachovia Monday.

Stocks are also extremely choppy and volatile as Wall Street moves to the end of the third quarter. Financial institutions and funds are expected to have their books settled before Wednesday, so there is a lot of last-minute scrambling, Gayle said.

Treasury prices rallied, sending yields lower, as investors sought safety in government debt.

Government rescue plan: Congress had supposedly reached a compromise on the $700 billion bank bailout plan Sunday, but the House voted against the bill Monday.

The bill is based around Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's initial plan to buy up bad mortgage debt from banks as a means of getting them to lend to each other again. However, Congressional lawmakers added provisions to protect taxpayers and enable them to benefit if the companies do as well. (Full story)

On Monday, President Bush and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke praised the bill and urged Congress to pass it quickly.

Investors also remained skittish amid more bank turbulence - and banks continued to hoard cash.

Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve and other central banks around the world announced steps Monday to make billions available to troubled banks.

Wachovia: Citigroup is buying the company's bank assets in a $2.2 billion all-stock deal that will see the company hold onto its brokerage business and remain afloat, albeit in a smaller form.

The deal calls for Citigroup to absorb up to $42 billion in losses and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to be responsible beyond that. Citigroup will give the FDIC $12 billion in preferred stock and warrants in exchange. (Full story)

Wachovia (WB, Fortune 500) shares began trading at around 2:30 in the afternoon, plunging 80%. Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) fell 3%.

Last week, JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500) bought Washington Mutual (WM, Fortune 500), after it suffered the largest failure ever of a U.S. bank.

On Monday, regional bank National City (NCC, Fortune 500) slumped 61% on worries that it might be next. Other regional banks dropped too. Bank of New York (BK, Fortune 500) fell 24%, Fifth Third Bancorp (FITB, Fortune 500) fell 38% and Regions Financial (RF, Fortune 500) fell 38%.
Big banks fell too, including Goldman Sachs (GS, Fortune 500), Merrill Lynch (MER, Fortune 500) and Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500).

Market breadth was negative. On the New York Stock Exchange, losers beat winners 23 to 1 on volume of 1.30 billion shares. On the Nasdaq, decliners topped advancers by over six to one on volume of 2.24 billion shares.

Global markets: Worldwide markets struggled. Asian and European markets ended lower after three European banks fell apart.

Dutch-Belgian bank and insurance giant Fortis was given a $16.4 billion lifeline to avoid it collapsing. The British government nationalized battered U.K. bank Bradford & Bingley.

Germany's financial regulators and several banks stepped in Monday to throw a line of credit to Hypo Real Estate Holding AG in a multibillion-euro move aimed at shielding the No. 2 commercial property lender.

Credit markets: Businesses depend on the credit markets to function on a daily basis, and the absence of ready capital has threatened to stall the broader financial system.

Several measures of bank fears surged Monday, suggesting that despite the bailout, banks remain worried. However, as with stock markets, the freezing up could be an immediate knee-jerk reaction that is mitigated once Congress passes the bill.

Additionally, credit markets may have been more focused on Wachovia and the other distressed banks, than the bailout.

The Libor-OIS spread, one gauge that banks use to determine lending rates, rose to a record 2.2%.

Meanwhile, the TED spread rose to 3.322%, but was short of the 3.48% level it hit in the morning. That 3.48% level was the highest point since at least 1982. The TED spread is the difference between what banks charge each other to borrow for three months and what the the Treasury pays. When banks charge each other a higher premium than the U.S. government, that's a sign of fear.

The three-month Treasury bill, seen as the safest place to park money in the short term, fell to 0.71% from 0.83% late Friday. It had been lower in the morning. Earlier this month, the three-month bill fell to a 68-year low around 0% as panic gripped financial markets.

Long-term Treasury prices rose, lowering the yield on the benchmark 10-year note to 3.58% from 3.82% late Friday. Treasury prices and yields move in opposite directions.

Treasury prices have been rallying recently and yields tumbling as nervous stock market investors have looked for safer areas to move their cash.

Other stock movers: Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) slumped 13% after RBC and Morgan Stanley analysts downgraded the stock to "neutral" from "buy" saying the consumer spending slowdown will hurt profits. (Full story)

A variety of other big tech stocks slumped, including Intel (INTC, Fortune 500), IBM (IBM, Fortune 500), Hewlett-Packard (HPQ, Fortune 500), Qualcomm (QCOM, Fortune 500), Cisco Systems (CSCO, Fortune 500), Dell (DELL, Fortune 500) and Applied Materials (AMAT, Fortune 500).

All 30 Dow components fell.

Oil and gold: U.S. light crude oil for November delivery fell $11.10 to $95.79 as investors bet that a slowing global economy means oil demand will keep dropping.

Oil prices had plummeted over $55 after peaking at $147.27 a barrel on July 11, as investors bet that sluggish global growth will diminish oil demand. But prices have seesawed in the last few weeks as the financial crisis has intensified and investors sought to put their money into hard assets.

COMEX gold for December delivery rallied $9.50 to $898.00 an ounce. Like oil, gold prices had also rallied during the biggest periods of unrest over the last few weeks

Other markets: In currency trading, the dollar gained against the euro and fell against the yen.

Gas prices fell for the 12th day in a row, according to a nationwide survey of credit card activity.
 
Awesome.

Stocks have always been worthless. Someones idea of what a company is worth. It's a piece of paper backed by somebodies Idea.

Futures and Forex markets are real contracts backed by real product.

So, as the world spins out of control financially, and things get worse, it would be a good idea to start trading in the futures markets. Prices just need to go up or down to make tons of money. So, the closer we get to the Lords return, the better opportunity we have to make lots of money!!!
As all these biblical signs that are coming should wreak havoc on all resources and prices should start jumping up or down.

So, if Florida freezes over, it would be a good chance to look at rising orange juice prices, and get ready to make a trade. Provided there is not enough in storage to cover, a years crop loss.

Great Post Chad!!! Looks like things are looking pretty good.
 
Brother, I don't know why you think stocks are worthless. That's certainly not true. In the situation we're in with these banks/lenders going under, I do believe it is prophecy being fulfilled. Nonetheless, this would not have happened had these lenders used common sense and not handed out loans absurdly left and right to those who could not afford to pay back. They did no valid, reasonable credit/background checks. This is the main reason of all these banks going under, what it seems overnight.

Read this to understand stocks and stock market better:
Stock market - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nice article.
 
Oops.

Sorry Chad, I think the concept of stocks was a bad idea. It's fake money.

I know that in the last Days there will be perilous times.

I am big on futures and the Money market. I see these last days as a great opportunity in these markets. So, I may have been a little biased about the stock markets, and Hence my silly comment.

I feel like you do. I am upset that these people need bailed out. I think there should be some prison sentences, for those that have been unwise and unfaithful for causing this whole thing.

Thank you for getting me on track though. God Bless..

Jesus Is Lord.
 
7 is the number of completion.
8 is the number of New Beginings.


Interesting...hmmmm??

Please provide Scripture to back this up, for those who read this and may not know what you're referring to sister.

Thank you.
 
I got the 7 for completion from looking at this website that started with God creating/resting for 7 days. The Biblical Meaning of the Number Seven


8 is New Begining or Resurection as some say. Here's another website I found.

The Citizen News » The Number 8 in Scripture



I don't know if I can do that Chad...if not, please fix it for me. Thank you :-)


I know for me 7 meaning completion makes sense because God had 7 days for creating/resting and it was finished.

8 meaning New Begining or something like that would make sense because of adding one to 7...and you would get 8....the symbol for new beginings. I hope those websites help.
 
I don't know much about this stuff, but listening to the debate, it sounds like our govenment and leaders already knew this would happen and did not stop it. It just amazed me at what they already knew and there were no guidelines to stop it.

Again this is what I was getting from it, it is beyond me.
 
Umm.

Well, there are lots of Websites, with lots of numbers and counting. I am sure some of them got a few things right, but I doubt one website has it all figured out, even though they think they may.

A few things we know. There will be wars and rumor of wars. Natural disasters should start to be more frequent. Men, are going to make bad choices like this 700 billion bailout.

I think it's important for a believer to keep an eye on these things, but people get way overboard about the end time stuff. It's not going to be that big a deal if you have Jesus. It's next to Satan's last push and it's going to end in another failure for him.

Now if you believe that Satan gets locked up then let loose awhile to wreak havoc, then it will his second to last failure.

Anyway you look at it. We win.

Jesus Is Lord.
 
I don't think I explain myself about the debate. I was talking about the McCain and Obama debate.
 
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