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Earliest Gospel of Mark Found

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A New Testament professor is setting the world of Bible scholarship on fire with his claim that newly discovered fragments of early Christian writings could include a first-century version of the Gospel of Mark, from the same century in which Jesus and the apostles lived.

Daniel B. Wallace of the Dallas Theological Seminary made the stunning announcement during a Feb. 1 debate with Bart Ehrman at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill on whether we have the wording of the original New Testament today.

"If this Mark fragment is confirmed as from the first century, what a thrill it will be to have a manuscript that is dated within the lifetime of many of the original followers of Jesus!" Wallace said. "Not only this, but this manuscript would have been written before the New Testament was completed."

Wallace says seven New Testament fragments written on papyrus had recently been discovered - six of them probably from the second century and one of them probably from the first. He expects further details to be published "in about a year."

"These manuscripts now increase our holdings as follows: we have as many as eighteen New Testament manuscripts (all fragmentary, more or less) from the second century and one from the first. Altogether, more than 40 percent of all New Testament verses are found in these manuscripts. But the most interesting thing is the first-century fragment.

"It was dated by one of the world's leading paleographers. He said he was 'certain' that it was from the first century. If this is true, it would be the oldest fragment of the New Testament known to exist. Up until now, no one has discovered any first-century manuscripts of the New Testament. The oldest manuscript of the New Testament has been P52, a small fragment from John's Gospel, dated to the first half of the second century. It was discovered in 1934."

Wallace's interest is focused on the portion from Mark's Gospel.

"Before the discovery of this fragment, the oldest manuscript that had Mark in it was P45, from the early third century. This new fragment would predate that by 100 to 150 years."

"Any find that gets us a quarter-century or so closer to the time the original gospels were written would be highly significant, even sensational," Andreas Kostenberger, senior professor of New Testament and biblical theology at Southeastern Baptist Theological in Wake Forest, N.C., told Baptist Press.

When asked about the trustworthiness of what Mark really wrote if we don't possess an actual original copy of his manuscript, Kostenberger said, "The fact is that the earliest manuscripts of all or parts of Mark that we do have show remarkable consistency and stability. And none of the minor variations between different manuscripts affect any major doctrine of Christianity at all.

1st century Gospel of Mark found?
 
Malachi 2:1-9...


'...The scholars have corrupted the covenant and led many astray.'

In any case, "earlier" has never meant "better;" i
t's a scholar's straw-man argument, a popular misdirect.

Do you want to know the truth of the matter?
 
Really?

lawrenceb
'...The scholars have corrupted the covenant and led many astray.'

In any case, "earlier" has never meant "better;" i
t's a scholar's straw-man argument, a popular misdirect.

Do you want to know the truth of the matter?


I see nothing negative about Stephens post. They found a new document, and Stephen posted it in the "NEWS" section.

God was more than able to preserve His Word, and no matter what they find is not going to change anything.

What post like this does accomplish is it allows me to pinpoint members with the Know it all spirit, and those that hunt for things in others post they feel is wrong, being a Judge.

Jesus Is Lord
 
The Gospel of Mark has long been dated 50s to early 60s. So this article is really nothing new. While in seminary in 1985 I was taught this date about Mark. Some even believe that Mark used a "Q" source for additional information and confirmation. Having attended four seminaries and studying the New Testament there are different views on which Gosples were written first and if some Gospels used other Gospel materials for their writtings. One worthwhile investments is to buy a HARMONY OF THE GOSPELS in what ever translation you use most. There you can see where each Gospel witter over laps the other.

For certian when one studies Higher Criticism of the New Testament that is when you are faced with can you trust the Bible as the WORD of GOD. At least for me it was a challenging time.

I have no doubt that this fragment of Marks Gospel in unique and better helps date His writting, but as for the date, this was established centuries ago.
 
'...The scholars have corrupted the covenant and led many astray.'

In any case, "earlier" has never meant "better;" it's a scholar's straw-man argument, a popular misdirect.

Do you want to know the truth of the matter?

Perhaps, you do not fully understand, but earlier is much better. The closer we get to the first document it proves the WORD of GOD is with out any errors.

There are very excellent Bible believing, born again, scholars who do all they can to bring truth to the doubting world. Please do not make such generalized statements. There are those scholars which have given their entire life to prove the Bible is completely trustworthy. Dr. James White being one I know and went to college with.

Perhaps you do not struggle with some statements in the Bible, but there are those who do all they can to disprove the Bible. Biblical scholars are able to defend the Bible in all it's statements. The WORD tells us to be prepared to defend our faith, what better way but to prove the Bible is relaible in every way.
 
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Should be interesting to see the results when they are authenticated and published.

Let it all be to the Glory of God!
 
John 8:32

What post like this does accomplish is it allows me to pinpoint members with the Know it all spirit, and those that hunt for things in others post they feel is wrong, being a Judge.
Regardless of the fact that the Word of God commands us to judge, you will note my post was addressed to Stephen (hopefully a truth seeker), who has yet to respond.
I see nothing negative about Stephens post. They found a new document, and Stephen posted it in the "NEWS" section.
Your comment is understandable.

However, the Lord said DECEPTION marks these times.

Firstly, for the truth seekers among us, here is the full article:

A New Testament professor is setting the world of Bible scholarship on fire with his claim that newly discovered fragments of early Christian writings could include a first-century version of the Gospel of Mark, from the same century in which Jesus and the apostles lived.

Daniel B. Wallace of the Dallas Theological Seminary made the stunning announcement during a Feb. 1 debate with Bart Ehrman at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill on whether we have the wording of the original New Testament today.

“If this Mark fragment is confirmed as from the first century, what a thrill it will be to have a manuscript that is dated within the lifetime of many of the original followers of Jesus!” Wallace said. “Not only this, but this manuscript would have been written before the New Testament was completed.”

Wallace says seven New Testament fragments written on papyrus had recently been discovered – six of them probably from the second century and one of them probably from the first. He expects further details to be published “in about a year.”

“These manuscripts now increase our holdings as follows: we have as many as eighteen New Testament manuscripts (all fragmentary, more or less) from the second century and one from the first. Altogether, more than 40 percent of all New Testament verses are found in these manuscripts. But the most interesting thing is the first-century fragment.

“It was dated by one of the world’s leading paleographers. He said he was ‘certain’ that it was from the first century. If this is true, it would be the oldest fragment of the New Testament known to exist. Up until now, no one has discovered any first-century manuscripts of the New Testament. The oldest manuscript of the New Testament has been P52, a small fragment from John’s Gospel, dated to the first half of the second century. It was discovered in 1934.”

Wallace’s interest is focused on the portion from Mark’s Gospel.

“Before the discovery of this fragment, the oldest manuscript that had Mark in it was P45, from the early third century. This new fragment would predate that by 100 to 150 years.”

Craig A. Evans, professor of New Testament at Acadia Divinity College, says the find may indeed be of very great importance.

“If authenticity and early date are confirmed, this fragment of the Gospel of Mark could be very significant and show how well preserved the text of the New Testament really is. We all await its publication,” Evans told the Christian Post.

Others agree.

“Any find that gets us a quarter-century or so closer to the time the original gospels were written would be highly significant, even sensational,” Andreas Kostenberger, senior professor of New Testament and biblical theology at Southeastern Baptist Theological in Wake Forest, N.C., told Baptist Press.

“Of course, in part the significance of the discovery depends on the size of the fragment, not to mention the verification of the date. There have been previous reports of discoveries of early Mark or other gospel manuscripts that did not check out at closer scrutiny, so it is certainly appropriate to maintain scholarly caution until the full data are known and available to public scrutiny. For example, some scholars got burned when they prematurely accepted so-called ‘Secret Mark,’ which turned out to be a forgery.”

When asked about the trustworthiness of what Mark really wrote if we don’t possess an actual original copy of his manuscript, Kostenberger said, “The fact is that the earliest manuscripts of all or parts of Mark that we do have show remarkable consistency and stability. And none of the minor variations between different manuscripts affect any major doctrine of Christianity at all.

“Of course, there is no way to prove positively one way or another what might have happened during the period between the original writing of Mark and the first available copies. Knowing what we do know about the care with which ancient Jews as well as early Christians took to preserve the original wording of what they believed to be authoritative and sacred writings – in fact, the very words of God – inspires a high degree of confidence. First the apostles, and then those after them carefully guarded the reliability of the eyewitness testimony to Jesus contained in the four canonical gospels.”

 
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