Ecumenical Appeal

[brakelite]

Most of you may have been alerted to this and viewed the video already, some maybe haven't. Perhaps we can discuss the issues surrounding this. I have placed it in this forum because I believe it to be prophetically profound.
Is Protestantism now redundant? Is the protest truly over? Has Rome changed to the point where she can now be accepted as a genuine Christian church? Was faith and grace alone the only point of contention between Luther and Rome? Was Luther the only reformist? There are many questions. Many of you no doubt belong to churches that are led by some who attended this meeting. Do you support them in this ecumenical endeavour? Do you believe the pope (and thus his church) to be the rightful leader of any 'superchurch' resulting from a union?

 

[james1523]

Most of you may have been alerted to this and viewed the video already, some maybe haven't. Perhaps we can discuss the issues surrounding this. I have placed it in this forum because I believe it to be prophetically profound.
Is Protestantism now redundant? Is the protest truly over? Has Rome changed to the point where she can now be accepted as a genuine Christian church? Was faith and grace alone the only point of contention between Luther and Rome? Was Luther the only reformist? There are many questions. Many of you no doubt belong to churches that are led by some who attended this meeting. Do you support them in this ecumenical endeavour? Do you believe the pope (and thus his church) to be the rightful leader of any 'superchurch' resulting from a union?

It is well known that Luther was not the only reformer, there are many others. Ecumenism holds the assumption that the Catholic church, and hence the Pope "Most Holy Father", is the true and genuine original church and the true and original leader. God's church only has Christ as leader.

 

[NoHype]

That's not really the brand of ecumenical appeal I'd be concerned about, because some Christian Churches have been joining hands with other of the world's religions. I remember one Christian Church in Chicago in an article where Buddhist monks were chanting mantras while standing over the Communion Table of Christ.

The endtime beast already has pretty well conquered the political, financial, and educational outlets of the world, now it's time for its conquering of the last horn, i.e., religion. U.N. international law that causes anyone slandering another religion to be fined or jailed is already on the table in the West, but only enforced lightly so far (i.e., like the cartoon against Islam in Europe a few years ago). The recent incident in California where school children were prevented from wearing shirts with the U.S. flag on Mexico's independence day to supposedly not cause a riot is another example of this kind of international law but applied across national-politico boundaries.

If the coming pseudo-Christ is to exalt himself as God and over anything that is worshiped or called God, then the joining of religions in one pot must manifest.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

The Christian nations that heard the truth of the gospel and rejected Jesus will be caused by God to believe the lie of antichrist. That is when the ecumenical "Christian church" will form. It is Harlot Babylon that rides and directs the Western nations while they devour the whole earth. Where they take control the apostate church also takes over.


2 Thessalonians 2:6-12
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed(((666))), whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[B-A-C]

That's not really the brand of ecumenical appeal I'd be concerned about, because some Christian Churches have been joining hands with other of the world's religions. I remember one Christian Church in Chicago in an article where Buddhist monks were chanting mantras while standing over the Communion Table of Christ.

Reminds me a lot of the church in Rev 2:14-15; and the church in Rev 2:20;
How often have we all seen the "coexist" and "tolerance" bumper stickers with the symbols of Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Ba'hai and New Age mysticism?

 

[farout]

Most of you may have been alerted to this and viewed the video already, some maybe haven't. Perhaps we can discuss the issues surrounding this. I have placed it in this forum because I believe it to be prophetically profound.
Is Protestantism now redundant? Is the protest truly over? Has Rome changed to the point where she can now be accepted as a genuine Christian church? Was faith and grace alone the only point of contention between Luther and Rome? Was Luther the only reformist? There are many questions. Many of you no doubt belong to churches that are led by some who attended this meeting. Do you support them in this ecumenical endeavour? Do you believe the pope (and thus his church) to be the rightful leader of any 'superchurch' resulting from a union?

Ecumenicalism is a big thing in some protestant churches, naming one, the Americam Baptist of the USA. I know as I went to their seminary when it was once fairly conserative at the tme, but no longer.

I believe there are many Protestant churches that believe in and practice ecumenicalism. Most ecumenical churches also except chruches that are Charismatic and Pentecostal. I strongly believe that Bible does not support Charismatiism or Pentecostalism, Therefore I will not be involed with any ecumenical church. I will join in a community effort such as a food bank, or general relief for disaster, tragety, or some catastrophe with whoever is willing to aid in such circunstances.
I believe Protestant churches have drifted so far from the Bible. Today we see homosexualality accepted into the ministry, same sex marriages being done by ministers within the church, with the churches blessing. We have seen Charismatic ministers with moral failures, continuing to preach with little or no discipline. Material and prosperity are taught to be expected, when worshipers are challenged to give, to get back back a blessing from God. Planting "Seed Faith Money" yields a thousand fold. People in the worship service are told to give, in order to receive back. People are told that the "experience" of the Holy Spirit is more important than what the Bible says. Often Scripture is taken out of context and twisted to prove a false point. Pentecostal Onemess reject the belief of the Holy Trinity, and Bishop T. D. Jakes is one of the leaders of the Oneness movement.
Even within Baptist's there is a wide scope in what they believe, say nothing about huge differences in Protestant denominations.

Only is heaven will pure genuine ecumenicalism ever become a fact.

 

[NoHype]

It's not just many Protestant Churches that have been exhibiting the type of ecumenicalism of bringing in other religions as a show in their congregations, the Catholic Church has been doing the same also, promoting a better understanding of other religions by it.

One should recall what religious leaders from all the main organized religions did the day after the 9/11 attacks, they all took their turn in speaking and praying publically, together, and it was broadcast over national radio in the U.S.

Another thing is that the major religious heads both western and eastern, have been meeting in religious summits in Moscow for many years now, in the name of ecumecialism. So even if one attends a small country Church that belongs to a main religious organization, and receives instructions from the main organization in some far away city, that ecumenicalism is still going to be upon that small Church.

By the example of those in the Church at Thyratira that were not guilty and Christ told those to hold fast until He comes, that shows He does not expect us to leave a Church that might be under those things. Instead we are to remain pure from what others there may do, in keeping faithful to our Saviour.