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Emotional abuse in marriage

BrokenWings

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I am married 15 years. We have 4 children. Neither of us has cheated on the other, no jealousy issues, we don't drink, I don't do any drugs but he is a heavy pot user. I think he may have quit after a recent talk with our Pastor though. I can't really tell for sure. I'm afraid to ask.

He is well aware of the scripture that wives are to submit to their husbands. But he takes it out of context and thinks I am to obey much like a dog would. If I have a question, he reprimands me angrily in disgust.

I try hard to submit. I'm sure I do so more than 90% of the wives out there. I wish he would love me as Christ loved the church. A fraction that much would mean the world to me.

In disagreements, he refuses to even hear anything I have to say by purposely yelling very loudly over top of me when I try to speak. He's not really saying anything. He's just making loud noise to shut me up and block me out as a human.

As soon as I stop speaking, he quits.

He called me some of the most hideous names in front of our children at the top of his lungs many, many times. And outside in front of the whole neighborhood. That never bothered him. It humiliates me though.

As many times as we have moved, I've never heard a neighbor cuss his wife for all to hear. But no neighbor we've ever had missed hearing him do it.

He takes our children aside privately and turns them against me, making them choose sides.

He pushes me down on the floor, wraps his hands around my throat, and spits in my face. But he's never particularly injured me beyond small bruises on my arms from wrestling me down to growl hateful things at me.

He's told me that my words have no value to anyone, that no one else would want me, that it makes him sick to sit beside me at church, that nothing but s**t comes out of my mouth, and some things I won't mention because they are just too mean.

He claims that every single thing that has ever gone wrong in our marriage is totally and completely my fault. And he MEANS it. If I'd just straighten my act up, there would be no problems.

I do confess the fact that I have at least partial fault in most all of our problems. He would never ever admit such a thing because he's done NO wrong! He seriously believes this.

I don't nag him about stuff. He stays in "his" part of the house away from me and the kids except at dinner usually. But he complains that I control everything that goes on in the house. That would be due to his absence!

He doesn't announce when he's coming or going or what he's up to and I don't ask. He already complains about feeling "controlled". I don't want to make it worse by asking ANYTHING about his plans or telling him what to do. But I don't even know where he is more than half the time. It ain't my business I guess, so I let him have his space and his freedom as if he were single and living alone. I don't say a word about it.

I complained about it in our earlier years but I learned to give it up and let him be.

We live two separate lives in the same home.

When he is around and he tells the kids to do something, I don't offer any argument to usurp his authority. I support his decisions and encourage the kids to respect his decisions and obey him.

I feel like I have tried and tried to please him and that he just plain hates and feels contempt for me no matter what I do.

Whatever I say to him, he paints it and ME ugly in his mind and twists it into something different. And if I argue that it wasn't what I said or meant, he says I'm lying and that's what I ALWAYS say.

Now I'll bet you he can't think of a single time I lied to him since we met but he calls me a liar all the time if he twists my words or motives and I try to defend myself.

So I am guilty not only of things I DID do and say, but everything he IMAGINES as well. And there's nothing I can do about it. The gravel has been pounded and the judgment set.

He stopped saying he loves me. He won't as much as say good morning or good bye to me. He walks right by me to hug the kids - dissing me right in front of them.

He listed things he's thankful for over the Thanksgiving holiday and he left me off the list but named the rest of the family by name.

He won't leave. I asked him to once when we were doing really bad and he was being particularly cruel verbally. But as far as I can tell, he can't stand me. I don't know why he stays.

I won't leave. I adore him when he's not being hateful to me and I don't want to spend the rest of my life alone. I'm only 42 and that's a long time to be alone. All I ever wanted to be was a wife.

I bathe. I keep in pretty fair shape. The house is kept reasonably clean. The kids are home-schooled and well behaved.

At church, I act like I'm happily married and so does he. I don't want to hurt his reputation. But he isn't at all shy about tarnishing mine terribly to our non-church acquaintances.

He twists my words into something ugly that I didn't say or mean and tells them his sob story and they point their fingers at my nose and tell me off without asking me one question. He has the ability to cry easily as he tells his version of things and he's very convincing. I don't waste my time arguing with them.

After 5 years at our church of not really talking to anybody beyond the generic "God Bless you" handshake on my way up to the stage to be one of the Praise Team singers, I am wanting to come out of isolation and start talking and get some support.

I have no friend at all and it is by my own choice because I don't want to divulge my story to anyone. I feel ashamed to be considered such a bad wife that I am not worth talking to, looking at, or having my kids taught any respect for me.

Wives who I would consider worse than me, those who cheat, etc, have husbands who will still speak to them. Mine hates me. I feel shame...like I have failed in some way so that I make my husband miserable. I wanted a happy husband. I wanted to be a great wife.

I really am all alone. Except for Jesus who offers me a virtual hug when I need one, a listening ear, and peace in my spirit when it hurts too much and I call on Him for help.

He usually restores me to a state of compassion instead of the anger and self pity I feel when I go to Him. I need that now.

Blessings,
BrokenWings
 
Greetings BrokenWings,

first dear sister, may your wings be restored in Christ Jesus the Lord, our Lord.

I will try not to say too much, but here goes....

I see you are doing your utmost to be a submitting wife.... this is good and comely in Jesus name, but please read prior to that.... (and I might be so bold as to say it is more important.... forgive me Lord, please, if I am wrong).....



Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and He is the saviour of the body.
Ephesians 5:20-23

Now, Jesus is Lord, and I am sure you agree, and as I looked up the verse I wished to share with you firstly, being about giving thanks, look what cames next.

What I wanted to ask, was ... do you give thanks for your husband... just the way he is?

I know that is probably a very tough sort of proposition. You know the answer to it.

So often we endure things for so long, and never actually are thankful ... because we see the things happening in our lives to be wrong and unpleasant.... and the natural man in us, wo-man included, just doesn't want to give thanks for any thing that we don't like or appreciate.

But, who do we declare to be our Lord?

Jesus Christ.

So, Jesus is Lord..... what of? Good times? Nice things?

or, all our life....?

And what is our life? Start in embryo..... all through to old age.... and then.....?

Jesus is Lord of your life, including your husband.

Now, before I go further, let me say you seem from what you say, to be an extremely humble and wonderful wife, and if all you say about yourself is true, then you are an almost ideal wife. BUT..... that is not the answer. YOU are a Christian FIRST..... wife second.

So, if you don't and haven't yet given thanks for your husband.... no if's or but's or complaints attached, no matter how valid in your honest opinion (the Lord does already know all about Him)... please consider doing so.


I question the congregation you go to..... do they know Jesus? They can not see your pain and are fooled by the ways of your husband. Maybe it is a big congregation and you are just another pew warmer? But you say you are with the Praise Team.

On that note, Praise Team? So do you praise the Lord for your lot?

I AM NOT IN ANY WAY RUNNING YOU DOWN SISTER. only helping to see something if you have not already seen it. (all I am saying is in the highest love in Christ Jesus the Lord, to you, my sister in Him)

So, the congregation..... if they are into Jesus in truth and sincerity, you can and ought to share your burden at least in part, and they should, in Jesus holy name whose holy name they use, they should love you through until you see victory and together you can all have something extra special to praise the Lord about. He is not into empty repetition and lifeless praise with a pretty tune. He delights in praise... yes, praise that exalts His name.... for what He has done.... and look..... what does he do? make clouds and blow bubbles? NO ! He heals and restores, He loves the unlovely, He turns mourning into joy.... all, yes, all for people like you and me.... and your husband.... if we would only praise Him with thanksgiving for being LORD of our lives.


Husband smokes too much pot. Bad move. Bad manners. Bad temper. Bad attitude. BUT, only Jesus can change that for good.


Dear sister, the Lord Himself loves you so much... yes.... so very much. Look more to Him, your heavenly Bridegroom, and allow yourself to get caught up in adoration and praise in His love..... for He is altogether lovely... and sees no spot in you.... ah the wonder of His love for you... O how tender and true..... yes, my sister... look to Him and desire to see Him, more and more.... let your heart long for Him until you weep with joy at His fragrant love pouring into you heart and healing your wounds.


Bless you my sister, in Jesus name ....><>



Br. Bear

may the Lord bless these words to your soul.
 
Greetings BrokenWings,

first dear sister, may your wings be restored in Christ Jesus the Lord, our Lord.

Br. Bear

may the Lord bless these words to your soul.

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hehehe.. a little bit funny Bro. Bear. But i agree here. Praise the Lord for the wisdom he gave. I pray it will minister a lot to our dear sister. Amen


I just remembered our dear sister here (hope i shall not sin using her life as a testimony). She always would run to us when getting hard with her husband. Both of them are believers. Both are involve in the ministry. The husband was fallen into unfaithfulness. The wife was broken. The husband would not admit anything. And so on.. and so forth... The hardest thing is... the discipline was given to our beloved sister. The grace was to her husband. How she long to expose him, but it was never. She was chastened as if she's the one doing wrong. Hehehe.. We stood behind her in prayer though. Praise the Lord.

The praiseworthy thing is, their marriage was save. Their relationship was restored getting better like never before. She's been testifying a lot of improvements today regarding her husband and the kids. Though she was humiliated because of unrighteousness before, now she's reaping the fruit of righteousness due to God's discipline. :wink: We love you Sister BrokenWings. May the Lord comfort you and heal your wounds. Keeping you in prayer here. Amen



God bless you Bro. Bear for that openly love you gave to our sister looking for a confidant.. Yea, she found it right here.


I question the congregation you go to..... do they know Jesus? They can not see your pain and are fooled by the ways of your husband. Maybe it is a big congregation and you are just another pew warmer? But you say you are with the Praise Team.

well this is another issue. a reason why i was lost many times in the internet till i found TJ. Hehehe.. Perhaps she just needs another space. Just like this verse..

Thou hast enlarged my steps under me, that my feet did not slip. Psalm 18:36

Amen..

I know fully well how hard to keep silent when times are bad. When justice seems not on our side. I just remembered Jesus when all the insults, and prejudice, lies and rejection was pass on him. He kept silent though. But when asked, He would speak a little for Himself.

At times, these great verses just comforts me..

Therefore the prudent man keeps quiet in such times, for the times are evil. Habakkuk 5:13


When times are good, be happy;
but when times are bad, consider:

Ecclesiastes 7:14


A blessed day!!!



Sister in Christ,


Reymielin
 
My husband read my Thanksgiving "what I'm thankful for" list out loud to the kids. He was second on my list - right after Jesus.

As much as things hurt, my heart is completely given over to my husband. I yearn for his touch, a tender look, any act of kindness that suggests that he likes me at all.

My church is wonderful and the place is filled with the Holy Spirit. I have kept them at arm's length all this time on purpose. I don't want them to know what goes on in my home. It's pride. Or shame. Or both. I have isolated myself from people. I smile and hug and act friendly but I tell them nothing of my personal life.

Oh yes, I praise the Lord out loud for every little thing I have in my life - even the bad - because it is for shaping me into something more like Him.

Starting today, I'm taking my focus off my husband and getting myself around people and more into the Word. I need more oil in my lamp. I went to church today on a day I don't usually go. Starting today, I go on Wednesdays again.

Tomorrow, I am going to travel and visit my parents for the day. I won't tell them how I'm hurting. But I'll get out and socialize and be a little less dependent on my husband.

As for my husband, I have chosen to harden my heart for the time being. His words may aim at me to harm me, but I won't flinch. I need to take a step back & away and do some healing. I don't even know who I am apart from him and what he says and what he thinks and how disgusted he is with me at the moment for whatever reason, real or imagined.

Blessings,
BrokenWings
 
Brokenwings, sounds like your husband is very immature and that you have been enabling him to stay that way. You made the comment that your children are well behaved, but I would say that if any are boys, they are learning from their father how to treat a spouse. I advise you to quit covering up for your husband and allow him to represent himself and when he is held accountable for his childish behavior hopefully he will grow up and learn to respect others, especially you and your children. Even if you need to seperate yourself and your children from him for a period.

Your husband is not walking in the authority concerning his family that comes from God. The scriptures say "husbands love your wives as Christ loves the Church". Well Jesus made himself a servant to all. In this same manner husbands should serve their wives and families. In your husbands case, he may need time away to submit to God and get deliverance from demonic influence. Then and only then can things get better.
 
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Hello Brokenwings,
I'm sorry for you and your children in this situation. It's not, well, optimum.. shall we say.


>He is well aware of the scripture that wives are to submit to their husbands.

The scripture here referenced about wives submitting..... that was written to wives. Not husbands (period!)
I've been involved with men's groups for long time and when that one is brought up by a husband, that's what he's told. That text is written to wives. Eph.5:22 " Wives, submit..." ....Not.... " Husbands, your wife shall submit...".
It's a part of who you were originally made as, Gen.3:16b, and that scripture was never ment to be used as a battering ram against you.




>But I don't even know where he is more than half the time. It ain't my business I guess. I'm only 42 and that's a long time to be alone. All I ever wanted to be was a wife.

It's all about your business! Your equal partners in the marriage relationship... unless you two are actually Muslims :P
All you ever wanted is, all you were ever created for.. "..your desire shall be for your husband."

>At church, I act like I'm happily married and so does he. I don't want to hurt his reputation. But he isn't at all shy about tarnishing mine terribly to our non-church acquaintances.

This statement is rather self-revealing. If you act like everything is hunky-dory, your living as a hypocrite. Got one face on one place and another on elsewhere.

>After 5 years at our church of not really talking to anybody ...I am wanting to come out of isolation and start talking and get some support.
>I have no friend at all and it is by my own choice because I don't want to divulge my story to anyone.

This is good, and sounds like maybe you've reached the end of your rope.
Please follow through. For you, and your childrens, and your marriages' sake.

>I feel ashamed to be considered such a bad wife that I am not worth talking to, looking at, or having my kids taught any respect for me.

>I feel shame...like I have failed in some way so that I make my husband miserable. I wanted a happy husband. I wanted to be a great wife.

Any other woman would say the same thing if subjected to the atmosphere you find yourself in for years on end.
It's all you're hearing... from the most important person in your life.



>He called me some of the most hideous names in front of our children at the top of his lungs many, many times. And outside in front of the whole neighborhood.
>He pushes me down on the floor, wraps his hands around my throat, and spits in my face. But he's never particularly injured me beyond small bruises on my arms from wrestling me down to growl hateful things at me.

Now correct me if I'm wrong here... but this doesn't sound like Eph.5:25
" Husbands, love your wife as Christ loved the church.."
I don't recall Jesus pushing down, calling names, humiliating, putting his hands around the throat, or spitting in any of the disciples face's.

None of these actions are LOVE. These actions are reffered to as unacceptable behavior in our society.
Your husband has given himself permission to do these actions and you have enabled him along the way.
I strongly suggest you seek counsel on behalf of all involved, if not at the very least.. for your children. They learn by example,
and this is not a good one.

Worst case senario, if the situation should escalate beyond what you've already spoken of, call the police!
What you've already described would be cause enough for such actions. I realize this would be increadibly difficult for you. At some point though, you must stop enabling his behavior.

If the church is to be an example to the world, what are we saying to it when we allow the most beautiful creation God has ever made, to be treated like this.
It is unacceptable (period)

I pray God bless you with understanding and courage BrokenWings,
Marco

p.s. I don't mean to sound harsh. Your situation sounds like it's on the cusp of getting worse, and it may.
Your husband will have to face a certain aspect of humiliation himself.
But it's part of the process of change that needs to occur.
 
Their relationship was restored getting better like never before. She's been testifying a lot of improvements today regarding her husband and the kids.

I respectfully beg to differ brother.
She wrote this barely 24 hours ago. They have a long road ahead.

She needs support. He needs a trip to the woodshed.

Marco
 
I respectfully beg to differ brother.
She wrote this barely 24 hours ago. They have a long road ahead.

That quote above was written concerning a different couple the poster knows. I understood.


I am very much appreciating the support I have gotten here. It has helped me stay strong and not just do whatever to make up and go back to normal like I normally would.

I really expected to get correction from someone here though when I said I intended to harden my heart for a time. I wasn't sure myself if that was right to do.

I have kept a silent distance from my husband for several days now. He had initiated the silence. This time, I didn't chase after him.

In fact, I have had a table in our dining room for years that has a beautiful giant valentine's day card he bought me years ago. It also has a pretty cross, our wine glasses from our wedding, an 8x10 wedding picture, and other tokens of my love for him. The other day, I dismantled the contents of that table, put them all away, and left the table sit there bare. And I didn't say a word about it.

When I went to church yesterday, I went without telling him where I was going. I didn't even say goodbye.

Today, he comes to the room I'm in and gets my attention. He mumbles something about how I am not respecting him enough to be his friend and how he doesn't want to talk in front of the kids.

I let the irony of all that go right off my back and I said without any emotion, "I suggest we don't talk at ALL without help."

He was agreeable to that but made no commitment and went out and drove off to who knows where for who knows how long like he does most days.

But before he gets home, he'll find that I'm gone. Like I said yesterday, I'm going to visit my parents. I won't be home from their house until probably 3 or 4 am. HE can wonder for a change.

I'll take a stand and see that WHEN we talk, it will be with our Pastor and his wife.

My husband has great respect for our Pastor, as do I. And our Pastor's wife is a real intelligent, wise, and strong woman who doesn't put up with any nonsense.

I've seen her stand him down before. She's the only woman I've ever seen who could do it.

Blessings,
BrokenWings
 
My sister,

I am broken for you. Know that you are amongst family here. Real family. I am more than anything going to pray for your husband; that God would break him to a point of full surrender to Jesus in all areas of his life and that the Lord would heal your marriage.


(Isaiah 40:31 ESV)



In Him,
Turbo
 
This time, I didn't chase after him.

In fact, I have had a table in our dining room for years that has a beautiful giant valentine's day card he bought me years ago. It also has a pretty cross, our wine glasses from our wedding, an 8x10 wedding picture, and other tokens of my love for him. The other day, I dismantled the contents of that table, put them all away, and left the table sit there bare. And I didn't say a word about it.

You go girl! ...Now that's what I'm talkin about! Standing up for yourself and give him a visual
of what he just might be missing if he doesn't check in on reality..!

When I went to church yesterday, I went without telling him where I was going. I didn't even say goodbye.

Today, he comes to the room I'm in and gets my attention. He mumbles something about how I am not respecting him enough to be his friend and how he doesn't want to talk in front of the kids.

I let the irony of all that go right off my back and I said without any emotion, "I suggest we don't talk at ALL without help."

Good for you! Perfect! Fantastico' (...and irony indeed :regret: )

He was agreeable to that but made no commitment and went out and drove off to who knows where for who knows how long like he does most days.

But before he gets home, he'll find that I'm gone. Like I said yesterday, I'm going to visit my parents. I won't be home from their house until probably 3 or 4 am. HE can wonder for a change.

Remind yourself to remain calm, cool and collected :confused2: ...and leave no reason for him to believe you were anywhere but your parents,
upon your return.

I'll take a stand and see that WHEN we talk, it will be with our Pastor and his wife.
My husband has great respect for our Pastor, as do I. And our Pastor's wife is a real intelligent, wise, and strong woman who doesn't put up with any nonsense.

I've seen her stand him down before. She's the only woman I've ever seen who could do it.

This is encouraging.
Be sure to make the appointment for the two of you to meet with your pastor and his wife. And if he backs out (especially at the last minute), go by yourself!! Maybe even think ahead about the kids being taken care of, if need be. Human nature doesn't like to be confronted.. at first. But once the initial shock is over, a Christian wants to be held accountable.


God continue to bless you with courage and strength!
Marco
 
I got to my parents house and smiled and talked and visited and my dad surprised me with an amazing wisdom and GUESSED that I hadn't told my husband where I was.

I've had a lot of practice pretending everything is great. I thought I was pretty good at it.

Dad began to lecture me about how a married person should always let their spouse know where they are. I stopped him and explained about how my husband needs that particular lecture and that I normally never leave the house without telling someone. I told him I'm trying to drive home a point.

When I told my mom & dad how my husband has been acting (just on that point - I didn't divulge any more) Dad invited me to stay the whole NIGHT if I wanted to.

I didn't take him up on it though. I got home about 4am like I had planned.

My husband didn't say a word. He didn't ask anything. I went straight on to bed.

I woke this morning with a river of memories of awful things my husband has done to me over the years with absolutely no remorse. My feelings ranged from anger at him to total disgust with myself. The memories kept on flooding in. With what I was feeling, I didn't WANT to work things out with him anymore.

As I got up out of bed and got busy with my routine, those memories and feelings faded and I have calmed down. I see that when we get to working things out, there is going to have to be a lot of forgiveness on my part for both him and myself.

We'll be at Praise and Worship practice tomorrow. I have a very brave step planned. When they do prayer before we start practice, I am going to ask for prayer for healing in our marriage in front of my husband and the whole Praise team. No ugly details. Just prayer. And let them all know I am hurting and why.

Blessings,
BrokenWings
 
Dear sister,

we will be praying for you... and you husband.... your marriage and family.

You mentioned about hardening your heart.... and how you were pleased you hadn't been told off about it.
Well..... I did begin writing a fair reply to you (but didn't post it) and part was about just that... but not to tell you off, but this....

may I suggest that rather than taking the stand of hardening your heart which will enivitably lead to more hardening as time goes by, with more and more people and things, please rather turn more entirely to Jesus, the lover of your soul, and allow Him to do the opposite.... to melt your heart into His.

So far, you have been giving so much to your husband who rejects your advances to his heart..... now I encourage you to make wooing advances to your Heavenly Bridegroom, Jesus Christ the Lord .... and you will find it is He who your soul longs for and your heart desires more than any other.

You see, hardening your heart to your husband, although it makes good sense in the ways of man, is not the way of the Lord.

As you let go of your great focus on your husband, and turn instead to the giver of life, Jesus Christ, yes, as you focus all your love towards your lovely Saviour, you will be so overcome with His love and with it such joy and peace, that there will be no need to harden your heart towards anyone.

I realise that what you are doing is perhaps better explained in action than words like 'hardening your heart'.... and that what you are doing is perhaps better explained as 'doing your own thing, without asking and seeking permission .... and without geting the flack for even asking'.

Jesus set you free, my sister... and you are indeed free to come and go.... but whatsoever you do.... do it in love..... with Jesus as your great and first love.

If for a time, your husband needs to be left wondering about where you are, well, so be it. BUT, please.... do not take the idea of hardening your heart to heart.....

our hearts are really not very trustworthy... and they tend to run away with anything that stirs a little emotion and tendency towards self preservation.... so turn only to Jesus for now, and let Him shower you in His tender love...

spend time with Him... in prayer and praise and adoration... allow Him to warm and gladden your soul... and delight in Him. You will find that He wants to restore your marriage more than you and as you learn to love and be loved by Him in deeper and deeper ways each day, that He will be doing what you will never be able to do... reach deep within you and heal the hurts... and reach deep within your husband and allure him unto Himself, for His names sake.


Bless you ....><>



Br. Bear




Colossians 3:15-25
And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by Him.

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:

And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
 
Thank you, Br. Bear.,
I wasn't ready to hear all that yesterday, but I am today. God's timing is perfect.

I've already felt a softening of my heart this evening and no longer feel such anger at my husband.

I want to secure that appointment with our Pastor tomorrow before showing my husband too much of my softer side though, lest he see no reason to agree to the counseling.

Blessings,
BrokenWings
 
I got home about 4am like I had planned.
My husband didn't say a word. He didn't ask anything. I went straight on to bed.

My feelings ranged from anger at him to total disgust with myself.

..there is going to have to be a lot of forgiveness

I am going to ask for prayer for healing in our marriage in front of my husband and the whole Praise team. No ugly details. Just prayer. And let them all know I am hurting and why.


Beddy By.......... you didn't even say beddy by :D



Remember feelings are just that, feelings. They are not right and they are not wrong.
They are just that, how you feel. And how you feel is valid. Just be careful what you do with them.


I really like your plan.. and I'd expect you'll have at least one person approach you with genuine heartfelt conviction concerning you.
Just smile at the nosey one who just wants in your business ; )


God bless you sis'

your doing good... for you and your family,

Marco
 
Thank you for those words of encouragement, Marco.

I have learned not to listen too closely to feelings. I have acted too quickly on them in the past. I realize my feelings tend to change greatly from one day to the next. And I have a strong tendency to go from one extreme to the next before I find a solid spot in the middle. So I am learning to FEEL them in the moment, but to delay ACTING on them.

Had I acted on my feelings, I would have a new apartment today. (grin)

Yes, as you and Br. Bear talked about, I have felt the Lord drawing me to grow closer to Him and I have already moved on that and look forward to continuing on that path. I do need more oil in my lamp.

Thank you again,
BrokenWings
 
Well THAT didn't go very well. Before practice, I asked for "prayer for our marriage because we've been doing real bad for a while" is exactly what I said.

So everyone got in a circle and prayed. and then we moved on to practice.

After practice, the Pastor's wife called me and my husband to come speak with her alone. She asked if we would like to start counseling. I told her I would. My husband immediately began a loud rant on what an awful disrespectful so and so I am for the next 20 minutes with his arms flinging around and a wild look in his eyes while me and the Pastor's wife stood there in silence.

She got to see what I live with.

He pretty much told her that he doesn't believe he can make me change or that SHE can make me change and that HE doesn't need to change anything. That's what he usually says.

We started to leave with no appointment because he doesn't see any use in it. Then as I went out the door, she pulled him back in and they talked more. I could see HER doing a little ranting of her own with HER finger pointing. God bless her.

I think I need a new place for me and the kids to live.

Blessings,
BrokenWings
 
My prayers are with you BrokenWings and your family in this time . Whatever the outcome trust in our Lord , he provides all that we need ! I am one who was slow to see this myself and to truly trust Him .
May the Lord bless you sister and give you peace and comfort in these times .

Miccy
 
Just a reminder...

Worst case senario, if the situation should escalate beyond what you've already spoken of, call the police!
What you've already described would be cause enough for such actions. I realize this would be increadibly difficult for you. At some point though, you must stop enabling his behavior.





Marco
 
May the Lord bless you sister and give you peace and comfort in these times .

Miccy

He has already done that. I feel better now and have calmed down.

What happened at church today was quite a blessing really.

I never spoke a single word past saying yes I'd like counseling. I made no faces, gestures, or noises, and didn't argue anything he said. My husband's lively and loud tirade spoke everything I needed to say very well FOR me. What else did I need to tell her? LOL

All I needed was some popcorn.

Yes, it all hurt very much listening to him spew mean, hateful stuff about me to her, and I kinda hid my heart away while he was going at it. But I knew that I could have talked all day and not gotten her to understand what I'm going through with him the way HE showed her himself.

She seemed to find a few things to say after I left that stopped his mouth. I could see them through the glass door as I sat in our van outside. Maybe something got through a little bit. I'm sure the Pastor will be speaking to him tomorrow. I'll just sit back quietly and let my husband do his thing. He's gonna find that bullying won't work there, I'll betcha.

They can correct him for how he is acting in front of them and settle him down while there is absolutely nothing about his behavior he can blame on me. THEN maybe we can get to working things out like sane people.

I came out of hiding today. I started shaking after I did it. I don't have to pretend and cover for him anymore and I can have some support and maybe some help. He was NOT happy that I opened up to the church members and said we were having problems and needed prayer.

Blessings,
BrokenWings
 
Today, I got myself to church an hour early and went to a bible study class so that I can get a more in-depth study and so that I can build some relationships within the church. This class has discussions and questions and answers so we all participate in the day's lesson.

I left my personal issues at home and participated and it was good.

I think I'm going to keep going to that class and the Wednesday night one too. And tonight I'm going to a special event at another church where my daughter is going to be in a play.

My husband and I haven't spoken to each other. Nothing has happened in that area. I still hold out hope for some counseling for us. I have felt it on my heart to be quick to openly forgive once counseling starts. We both have a lot of anger towards each other.

Somehow, the intense hate he shows for me needs to turn to forgiveness. I hope he can find it in himself and begin to look on me with love. Forgiveness is something I have not yet seen him learn to do for anyone and this may be a big step forward for him in his walk with the Lord. What a blessing that would be.

I'm angry at many things he's done. But I don't hate him or desire to see him burn in hell for those things. He's just a faulty human, same as I am. I have been forgiven so much by my Father in Heaven. I owe that to others as well. I can find it in my heart to forgive. I look forward to lavishing my husband with love again.

But I don't fool myself into thinking we can do this without help. So I am keeping a distance to keep the fire under him hot and uncomfortable.

Thanks for walking through this with me and offering up scripture and words of encouragement.

I go back and forth between Godly and not so Godly thinking as I work my way through this. I've tried to be honest on here about those various conversations in my head.

This trial is here in my life to teach me some things and I am open to learning them and becoming more mature as a Christian.

Blessings,
BrokenWings
 
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