Alcohol
I hope this isn't the wrong place to post this but as it's concerning alcohol this is the reason I thought it may be alright to do so.
Here's hoping anyway.
I'm getting all mixed feelings here while reading these posts, I know the word says 'Our bodies our God's Temple' so why then would we defile them with alcohol, and if we can take 'A' drink why bother to take just that 'A' drink do we really need that drink?
Sure we are not to mix light with darkness.
2 Corithians 6 V 14[ Do Not Be Yoked With Unbelievers ] Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?Luke 11 V 35
See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness.
John 1 V 5
The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
John 3 V 19
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
I specially like the first scripture and if we take that at face value, sure it is easy enough to glean from.
right here's what I'm getting at now......my unsaved husband had a BBQ last Sat night and I just felt in my spirit I could not be at it, as much as I tried to tell myself it'd be fine, no, I couldn't confince myself so I didn't stay for it, instead I did a few taxi runs for the family taking them home and was able to speak about Jesus when having my youngest son (23yrs) in the car, as he'd watched the film 'The Passion of the Christ' over Easter on TV and it had disturbed his mind, Hallelujah.
I know there are going to be more of these so called BBQ's over the summer months as up till now he's not had one to use and only just bought this.
What are your own thoughts on this kind of thing as when I read scripture it's tells me not to mix, I know Jesus did but he had an agenda, to speak the gospel to them, my family don't want to hear that when they're partying and drinking they'd soon chase me or move away from me.
Thank you all and I hope this isn't in the wrong place. Sorry if so.
According to the scripture notes in my study Bible for 2Cor 6:14,"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers" means do not cooperate with false teachers who are, in reality, servants of Satan who are really smooth talkers.
As believers, we are called upon to be Christ's witnesses. How do we do that if we refuse to mix with unbelievers where unbelievers gather (which includes barbeques where alcohol is served)?
SLE
SpiritLedEd
I know your saying mix with unbelievers and with my family I have no other choice but to do that, getting in a word here and there, but it's mostly by my walk they see I love Jesus.
My thinking is that at a BBQ they won't want any 'word' to be said,
it's not what the occasion is about for them,
and I know my husband would be one of the first to tell me to drop it.
I don't even think I could bring up the 'word' amongst a group gathering such as that, I'm not a very talkative or the sort of person
who can speak out in a crowd situation,
then I'd feel awful for sitting there and not able to speak a 'word'
I hope you understand what I'm meaning,
I do think I will go to the next one just to see what happens regarding it all, and if I leave and go to bed then so be it.
If I were a more bold person and could just speak how it is
then I would not hesitate, I pray for Holy Ghost boldness every night.
Thank you for your help, it does trouble me some, so I'm really glad of input.
Its not about preaching at them. Its just about being a Christian among them. Too many people see witnessing as a rehearsed program we have to trot out when we're among unbelievers.
I've been reading an excellent book on personal evangelism entitled "Just Walk Across the Room" by Bill Hybels. I suggest you buy and read this book. It is awesome!
SLE
SpiritLedEd
in reply to your above post, 'servants of Satan,' surely we were all those before our conversions?
If we do not serve Jesus don't we then obviously serve Satan, which would therefore include my family as none of them are saved.....yet.
As for being a witness at a BBQ I'm sure that would be the last thing they would want to hear from me, they'd rather talk about worldly things.
but thank you for your input, much appreciated, another BBQ coming up this week-end at my daughters home, lovely, as if...
Fellowservant. Does not what goes in....come out?
what we take in through our minds comes out in our speech.
I know what your saying, but this really ties me in knots
this whole drinking thing, I'm not a drinker, as I suffer from migraine
but being party to it all, really can't get my head round it.
Thank you too for your help believe me it is needed.
Got the book today and the first 2 stories, which is all I've read
so far, I have noticed that the Christian has been asked about
his/her faith, prompted with a question from the un-believer, although
the second man was a converted Muslim.
This has confirmed something which I've been thinking lately
that its maybe better to wait on that sort of opportunity
then you at least can be sure the person asking is truly interested
enough to hear our witness for Christ.
Just thought I'd share this while fresh in my mind.
Have you any other suggestions for bringing about the gospel
to the un-saved.
Maureen: We can't control when evangelism opportunities come. It is God who arranges that and then gives us a nudge in our spirit that says "Go, introduce yourself to.........." Also, most of the time we do not get advance notice. Our job is to just strike up a friendly conversation with the person and hopefully begin or nudge along their salvation process, rather than launching into a rehearsed sermonette that they don't want to hear.
Stick with that book. It shows the how to of effective evangelism.
SLE
I hope this isn't the wrong place to post this but as it's concerning alcohol this is the reason I thought it may be alright to do so.
Here's hoping anyway.
I'm getting all mixed feelings here while reading these posts, I know the word says 'Our bodies our God's Temple' so why then would we defile them with alcohol, and if we can take 'A' drink why bother to take just that 'A' drink do we really need that drink?
Sure we are not to mix light with darkness.
2 Corithians 6 V 14[ Do Not Be Yoked With Unbelievers ] Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?Luke 11 V 35
See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness.
John 1 V 5
The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
John 3 V 19
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
I specially like the first scripture and if we take that at face value, sure it is easy enough to glean from.
right here's what I'm getting at now......my unsaved husband had a BBQ last Sat night and I just felt in my spirit I could not be at it, as much as I tried to tell myself it'd be fine, no, I couldn't confince myself so I didn't stay for it, instead I did a few taxi runs for the family taking them home and was able to speak about Jesus when having my youngest son (23yrs) in the car, as he'd watched the film 'The Passion of the Christ' over Easter on TV and it had disturbed his mind, Hallelujah.
I know there are going to be more of these so called BBQ's over the summer months as up till now he's not had one to use and only just bought this.
What are your own thoughts on this kind of thing as when I read scripture it's tells me not to mix, I know Jesus did but he had an agenda, to speak the gospel to them, my family don't want to hear that when they're partying and drinking they'd soon chase me or move away from me.
Thank you all and I hope this isn't in the wrong place. Sorry if so.
According to the scripture notes in my study Bible for 2Cor 6:14,"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers" means do not cooperate with false teachers who are, in reality, servants of Satan who are really smooth talkers.
As believers, we are called upon to be Christ's witnesses. How do we do that if we refuse to mix with unbelievers where unbelievers gather (which includes barbeques where alcohol is served)?
SLE
SpiritLedEd
I know your saying mix with unbelievers and with my family I have no other choice but to do that, getting in a word here and there, but it's mostly by my walk they see I love Jesus.
My thinking is that at a BBQ they won't want any 'word' to be said,
it's not what the occasion is about for them,
and I know my husband would be one of the first to tell me to drop it.
I don't even think I could bring up the 'word' amongst a group gathering such as that, I'm not a very talkative or the sort of person
who can speak out in a crowd situation,
then I'd feel awful for sitting there and not able to speak a 'word'
I hope you understand what I'm meaning,
I do think I will go to the next one just to see what happens regarding it all, and if I leave and go to bed then so be it.
If I were a more bold person and could just speak how it is
then I would not hesitate, I pray for Holy Ghost boldness every night.
Thank you for your help, it does trouble me some, so I'm really glad of input.
Its not about preaching at them. Its just about being a Christian among them. Too many people see witnessing as a rehearsed program we have to trot out when we're among unbelievers.
I've been reading an excellent book on personal evangelism entitled "Just Walk Across the Room" by Bill Hybels. I suggest you buy and read this book. It is awesome!
SLE
According to the scripture notes in my study Bible for 2Cor 6:14,"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers" means do not cooperate with false teachers who are, in reality, servants of Satan who are really smooth talkers.
As believers, we are called upon to be Christ's witnesses. How do we do that if we refuse to mix with unbelievers where unbelievers gather (which includes barbeques where alcohol is served)?
SLE
SpiritLedEd
in reply to your above post, 'servants of Satan,' surely we were all those before our conversions?
If we do not serve Jesus don't we then obviously serve Satan, which would therefore include my family as none of them are saved.....yet.
As for being a witness at a BBQ I'm sure that would be the last thing they would want to hear from me, they'd rather talk about worldly things.
but thank you for your input, much appreciated, another BBQ coming up this week-end at my daughters home, lovely, as if...
Fellowservant. Does not what goes in....come out?
what we take in through our minds comes out in our speech.
I know what your saying, but this really ties me in knots
this whole drinking thing, I'm not a drinker, as I suffer from migraine
but being party to it all, really can't get my head round it.
Thank you too for your help believe me it is needed.
Got the book today and the first 2 stories, which is all I've read
so far, I have noticed that the Christian has been asked about
his/her faith, prompted with a question from the un-believer, although
the second man was a converted Muslim.
This has confirmed something which I've been thinking lately
that its maybe better to wait on that sort of opportunity
then you at least can be sure the person asking is truly interested
enough to hear our witness for Christ.
Just thought I'd share this while fresh in my mind.
Have you any other suggestions for bringing about the gospel
to the un-saved.
Maureen: We can't control when evangelism opportunities come. It is God who arranges that and then gives us a nudge in our spirit that says "Go, introduce yourself to.........." Also, most of the time we do not get advance notice. Our job is to just strike up a friendly conversation with the person and hopefully begin or nudge along their salvation process, rather than launching into a rehearsed sermonette that they don't want to hear.
Stick with that book. It shows the how to of effective evangelism.
SLE
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