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I was writing a study on Mystery Babylon when the Lord opened up something to me concerning the everlasting fire that is never quenched; and also the smoke of burning that rises up forever and ever. I never really put much thought into this subject before, but I do not believe this everlasting fire is a natural fire as one might suppose; but rather the fire "symbolizes" the fire of God’s anger.

So let’s compare spiritual things with spiritual by looking at several verses of scripture.

When something burns, naturally it produces smoke right? But here we also see the "smoke of torment" rising up forever and forever.

Revelation 18:9 “And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see "the smoke" of her burning,”

Revelation 18:18 “And cried when they saw "the smoke" of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!”

Revelation 19:3 “And again they said, Alleluia And "her smoke" rose up for ever and ever.”

Revelation 14:11 “And "the smoke" of their "torment" ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”

We know by scripture God’s "anger" is as a consuming fire…..

Deuteronomy 4:24 “For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

Psalm 74:1 “O God, why hast thou cast us off for ever? why doth thine "anger smoke "against the sheep of thy pasture?”

Job 15:34 “For the congregation of hypocrites shall be desolate, and "fire shall consume" the tabernacles of bribery.”

Isaiah 33:14 “The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with "the devouring fire"? who among us shall dwell with "everlasting burnings?”

Notice the wording here compared to the wording in Revelation above concerning the smoke of their torment that ascends up forever and forever.

Isaiah 34:1-10 “Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.2 For "the indignation" of the Lord is upon all nations, and "his fury" upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.6 The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the Lord hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.8 For it is the day of "the Lord's vengeance", and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
9 And the streams thereof shall be turned into "pitch", and the dust thereof into "brimstone", and the land thereof shall become "burning pitch".10 It shall not be quenched night nor day; "the smoke thereof shall go up for ever": from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.”
Sounds like hell on earth don’t it? Now listen to "the fire that is never quenched"…

Mark 9:43 “And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mark 9:45 “And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:”

Now notice how God's anger and wrath is "like" a fire

Deuteronomy 32:22 “For a "fire" is kindled in mine "anger", and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and "set on fire" the foundations of the mountains.

Psalm 21:9 Thou shalt make them as a "fiery oven" in the time of thine "anger": the Lord shall swallow them up in "his wrath", and "the fire" shall devour them.

Isaiah 30:27 Behold, the name of the Lord cometh from far, "burning with his anger", and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of "indignation", and his tongue as a "devouring fire":

Isaiah 66:15 For, behold, the Lord will come with "fire", and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render "his anger with fury", and his rebuke with "flames of fire".

Jeremiah 15:14 “And I will make thee to pass with thine enemies into a land which thou knowest not: for a "fire" is kindled in "mine anger," which shall "burn" upon you.”

Jeremiah 17:4 “And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled "a fire in mine anger", which shall "burn forever.” (= everlasting fire)



Zephaniah 3:8 “Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the Lord, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all "my fierce anger": for all the earth shall be devoured with "the fire of my jealousy.”

Isaiah 33:14 “The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the "devouring fire"? who among us shall dwell with "everlasting burnings?” (everlasting fire)

Matthew 18:8 “Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into "everlasting fire.”

Matthew 25:41 “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into "everlasting fire," prepared for the devil and his angels:”

The fire that is not quenched seems to be "the anger and wrath of the Lord" that is not quenched

2 Chronicles 34:25 “Because they have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me "to anger" with all the works of their hands; therefore "my wrath" shall be poured out upon this place, "and shall not be quenched".

Jeremiah 7:20 “Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, "mine anger and my fury "shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and "it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.”

Isaiah 66:24 “And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall "their fire be quenched"; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.”

Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest "my fury come forth like fire", and "burn" that none can "quench it," because of the evil of your doings.

Jeremiah 21:12 “O house of David, thus saith the Lord; Execute judgment in the morning, and deliver him that is spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor, lest "my fury" go out "like fire", and "burn that none can quench it", because of the evil of your doings.”

Ezekiel 20:47 “And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the Lord; Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will kindle "a fire" in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the "flaming flame shall not be quenched", and all faces from the south to the north shall be "burned" therein.

Ezekiel 20:48 “And all flesh shall see that "I the Lord have kindled it": "it shall not be quenched.”

Mark 9:45 “And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:”

Jesus said in Luke 12:49 "I am come "to send fire" on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

Revelation 14:10-11 “The same shall drink of the wine of "the wrath" of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of "his indignation"; and he shall be tormented "with fire and brimstone" in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And "the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever": and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”

So by all these proof scriptures I do believe "the fire" can be seen as "symbolic" as well. Peace and God bless
 
I was writing a study on Mystery Babylon when the Lord opened up something to me concerning the everlasting fire that is never quenched; and also the smoke of burning that rises up forever and ever. I never really put much thought into this subject before, but I do not believe this everlasting fire is a natural fire as one might suppose; but rather the fire "symbolizes" the fire of God’s anger.

So let’s compare spiritual things with spiritual by looking at several verses of scripture.

When something burns, naturally it produces smoke right? But here we also see the "smoke of torment" rising up forever and forever.

Revelation 18:9 “And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see "the smoke" of her burning,”

Revelation 18:18 “And cried when they saw "the smoke" of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!”

Revelation 19:3 “And again they said, Alleluia And "her smoke" rose up for ever and ever.”

Revelation 14:11 “And "the smoke" of their "torment" ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”

We know by scripture God’s "anger" is as a consuming fire…..

Deuteronomy 4:24 “For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

Psalm 74:1 “O God, why hast thou cast us off for ever? why doth thine "anger smoke "against the sheep of thy pasture?”

Job 15:34 “For the congregation of hypocrites shall be desolate, and "fire shall consume" the tabernacles of bribery.”

Isaiah 33:14 “The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with "the devouring fire"? who among us shall dwell with "everlasting burnings?”

Notice the wording here compared to the wording in Revelation above concerning the smoke of their torment that ascends up forever and forever.

Isaiah 34:1-10 “Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.2 For "the indignation" of the Lord is upon all nations, and "his fury" upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.6 The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the Lord hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.8 For it is the day of "the Lord's vengeance", and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
9 And the streams thereof shall be turned into "pitch", and the dust thereof into "brimstone", and the land thereof shall become "burning pitch".10 It shall not be quenched night nor day; "the smoke thereof shall go up for ever": from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.”
Sounds like hell on earth don’t it? Now listen to "the fire that is never quenched"…

Mark 9:43 “And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mark 9:45 “And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:”

Now notice how God's anger and wrath is "like" a fire

Deuteronomy 32:22 “For a "fire" is kindled in mine "anger", and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and "set on fire" the foundations of the mountains.

Psalm 21:9 Thou shalt make them as a "fiery oven" in the time of thine "anger": the Lord shall swallow them up in "his wrath", and "the fire" shall devour them.

Isaiah 30:27 Behold, the name of the Lord cometh from far, "burning with his anger", and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of "indignation", and his tongue as a "devouring fire":

Isaiah 66:15 For, behold, the Lord will come with "fire", and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render "his anger with fury", and his rebuke with "flames of fire".

Jeremiah 15:14 “And I will make thee to pass with thine enemies into a land which thou knowest not: for a "fire" is kindled in "mine anger," which shall "burn" upon you.”

Jeremiah 17:4 “And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled "a fire in mine anger", which shall "burn forever.” (= everlasting fire)



Zephaniah 3:8 “Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the Lord, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all "my fierce anger": for all the earth shall be devoured with "the fire of my jealousy.”

Isaiah 33:14 “The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the "devouring fire"? who among us shall dwell with "everlasting burnings?” (everlasting fire)

Matthew 18:8 “Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into "everlasting fire.”

Matthew 25:41 “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into "everlasting fire," prepared for the devil and his angels:”

The fire that is not quenched seems to be "the anger and wrath of the Lord" that is not quenched

2 Chronicles 34:25 “Because they have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me "to anger" with all the works of their hands; therefore "my wrath" shall be poured out upon this place, "and shall not be quenched".

Jeremiah 7:20 “Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, "mine anger and my fury "shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and "it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.”

Isaiah 66:24 “And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall "their fire be quenched"; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.”

Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest "my fury come forth like fire", and "burn" that none can "quench it," because of the evil of your doings.

Jeremiah 21:12 “O house of David, thus saith the Lord; Execute judgment in the morning, and deliver him that is spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor, lest "my fury" go out "like fire", and "burn that none can quench it", because of the evil of your doings.”

Ezekiel 20:47 “And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the Lord; Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will kindle "a fire" in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the "flaming flame shall not be quenched", and all faces from the south to the north shall be "burned" therein.

Ezekiel 20:48 “And all flesh shall see that "I the Lord have kindled it": "it shall not be quenched.”

Mark 9:45 “And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:”

Jesus said in Luke 12:49 "I am come "to send fire" on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

Revelation 14:10-11 “The same shall drink of the wine of "the wrath" of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of "his indignation"; and he shall be tormented "with fire and brimstone" in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And "the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever": and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”

So by all these proof scriptures I do believe "the fire" can be seen as "symbolic" as well. Peace and God bless
Good study.
The lake of fire is the last wrath of God.
 
FAQ: Some versions of Jude 1:7 say that Sodom and Gomorrah were
destroyed by eternal fire. Well; if you went looking for it today, you'd not
find it burning. How can a fire that goes out be called eternal?

REPLY: There are Ford cars and Toyota cars. But Ford and Toyota are brand

names rather than cars. In other words all cars are cars; it's their source
that determines their names.

In the same manner; all fire is fire. A fire's source is what determines its
name, e.g. forest fire, home fire, apartment fire, camp fire, cook's fire, wood
fire, coal fire, gas fire, oil fire, etc.

Somewhere in the unseen world there's a source that never runs out of fire;
sort of like a well that never dries up, not even in droughts. Were that fire
somehow packaged and offered for sale; we'd brand-name it eternal fire
because of where it came from. Of course our packaged fire would eventually
go out if we didn't keep it supplied with fuel, but no matter; it would still be
known as eternal fire.
_
 
@StewardoftheMystery & @God's Truth & @Beetow

Matthew 18:8 “Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into "everlasting fire.”

Mark 9:45 “And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:”

Messages can be lost when translating to English. Hell in Mark 9:46 is from "Gehenna" which sometimes refers to refuse dump found outside the city of Jerusalem. Think of that at the rapture event when saints abiding in Him will be received in that City of God above, the Father's House....whereas those not found abiding in Him are left behind on earth as that Gehenna will come on earth when a third of it gets burned up as Babylon USA, the center of trade will end up as. with the left behind saints in it dead, unburied, and refuse for the birds & the beasts of the earth.

Revelation 18 th chapter

Proof of Gehenna on earth is found on what the Lord says He refers to Gehenna as.

Jeremiah 7:32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.
33 And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.

Jeremiah 19:6 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that this place shall no more be called Tophet, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of slaughter.
7 And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hands of them that seek their lives: and their carcases will I give to be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

Since there will be a new heaven and a new earth after the defeat of Satan and the world's armies marching on Jerusalem at the end of the great tribulation, then that Gehenna will be ended, but there will be one outside of New Jerusalem on earth as a reminder to coming generations during the 1000 year reign of Christ.... if my recollection and understanding is correct.
 
@StewardoftheMystery & @God's Truth & @Beetow

Matthew 18:8 “Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into "everlasting fire.”

Mark 9:45 “And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:”

Messages can be lost when translating to English. Hell in Mark 9:46 is from "Gehenna" which sometimes refers to refuse dump found outside the city of Jerusalem. Think of that at the rapture event when saints abiding in Him will be received in that City of God above, the Father's House....whereas those not found abiding in Him are left behind on earth as that Gehenna will come on earth when a third of it gets burned up as Babylon USA, the center of trade will end up as. with the left behind saints in it dead, unburied, and refuse for the birds & the beasts of the earth.

Revelation 18 th chapter

Proof of Gehenna on earth is found on what the Lord says He refers to Gehenna as.

Jeremiah 7:32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter: for they shall bury in Tophet, till there be no place.
33 And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth; and none shall fray them away.

Jeremiah 19:6 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that this place shall no more be called Tophet, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of slaughter.
7 And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hands of them that seek their lives: and their carcases will I give to be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

Since there will be a new heaven and a new earth after the defeat of Satan and the world's armies marching on Jerusalem at the end of the great tribulation, then that Gehenna will be ended, but there will be one outside of New Jerusalem on earth as a reminder to coming generations during the 1000 year reign of Christ.... if my recollection and understanding is correct.
Could you explain better what your point is? Are you saying earth will be Gehenna? The scriptures say the earth will be destroyed by fire, but it also tells us there is a place called prison/hell/Gehenna, and another place called the lake of fire/hell.
 
Could you explain better what your point is? Are you saying earth will be Gehenna? The scriptures say the earth will be destroyed by fire, but it also tells us there is a place called prison/hell/Gehenna, and another place called the lake of fire/hell.
I believe Gehenna is the Lord's calling a certain place on earth as the place of slaughter which fallen Babylon will be and why in Revelation 18th chapter in KJV

It ties in with these two references...

Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Revelation 14 us following after the rapture event when you read about how the 144,000 virgin men that makes up Jesus's personal choir were redeemed from the earth ( raptured ) in Revelation 14:1-5 and how the 3 angels sets up the hour of temptation that shall try all upon the earth after that as everyone will know the gospel and after the fall of Babylon as announced by the 2nd angel, is the warning about the lake of fire as punishment for taking the mark of the beast to buy & sell in order to survive in the New World Order so that no one will be without excuse in Revelation 14:6-11 and so afterwards, that third of the earth will get that wrath of God but any and all who call on Him will be saved according to Revelation 14:12;20
 
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