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Explain the doctrine of limited atonement (ref)?

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Before Jesus’ death and resurrection, God the Father provided a way for atonement for sin so that people could be in His Holy presence.
God allowed the blood of a perfect animal, a bull OX, which is a picture of Jesus Christ to temporarily take away the place of the sinner’s sins in Day of Atonement.
This blood sacrifice took away sin and made the sinner right with God temporarily.
This was Solomon’s Temple and the Tabernacle atonement of sin.
For these are signs for things to come!
please read this as you see it,
In 1 Corinthians 2:10-16 (NKJV)
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
For what man knows the things of a man except for the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so, no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
For "who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.


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Habakkuk 1:13. Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst do not look on iniquity; wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoured the man that is more righteous than he? This means God does not look upon our sins in favor, he never approves sin in any means because he is holy and just. The LORD’s eyes.

Hebrews 10: 1 – 4. For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
For then would they not have ceased to be offered? Because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
But in those sacrifices, there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Leviticus 17: 11. For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

Hebrews 13: 15-16. By him, therefore, let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.
But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

Revelation 3: 12. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Exodus 29: 33, 36: And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof, because they are holy. And thou shalt offer every day a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it.

Exodus 30: 10. And Aaron shall make an atonement upon the horns of it once in a year with the blood of the sin offering of atonements: once in the year shall he make atonement upon it throughout your generations: it is most holy unto the LORD.

Exodus 32: 30. And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.

Leviticus 4: 20. And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them.

Leviticus 5: 6. And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD for his sin which he hath sinned, a female from the flock, a lamb or a kid of the goats, for a sin offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for him concerning his sin.

Leviticus 7: 7. As the sin offering is, so is the trespass offering: there is one law for them: the priest that maketh atonement therewith shall have it.

Leviticus 9: 7. And Moses said unto Aaron, Go unto the altar, and offer thy sin offering, and thy burnt offering, and make an atonement for thyself, and for the people: and offer the offering of the people, and make an atonement for them; as the LORD commanded.

Leviticus 10: 17. Wherefore have ye not eaten the sin offering in the holy place, seeing it is most holy, and God hath given it to you to bear the iniquity of the congregation, to make atonement for them before the LORD?

Leviticus 12: 8. And if she is not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

Leviticus 14: 19. And the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed from his uncleanness; and afterward, he shall kill the burnt offering:

Leviticus 15: 15. And the priest shall offer them, the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for him before the LORD for his issue.

Leviticus 16: 6. And Aaron shall offer his bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make an atonement for himself, and for his house.

Leviticus 19: 22. And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.

Numbers 6: 11. And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, and make an atonement for him, for that he sinned by the dead, and shall hallow his head that same day.

Numbers 8: 12. And the Levites shall lay their hands upon the heads of the bullocks: and thou shalt offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, unto the LORD, to make an atonement for the Levites.

Numbers 15: 25. And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance: and they shall bring their offering, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD, for their ignorance:

Numbers 28: 22. And one goat for a sin offering, to make an atonement for you.

Numbers 29: 5. And one kid of the goats for a sin offering, to make an atonement for you: II Chronicles. And the priests killed them, and they made reconciliation with their blood upon the altar, to make an atonement for all Israel: for the king commanded that the burnt offering and the sin offering should be made for all Israel.
The Captives Who Returned to Jerusalem my Israel

Nehemiah 10: 1 – 39. Now those that sealed were, Nehemiah, the Tirshatha, the son of Hachaliah, and Zidkijah,
Seraiah, Azariah, Jeremiah,
Pashur, Amariah, Malchijah,
Hattush, Shebaniah, Malluch,
Harim, Meremoth, Obadiah,
Daniel, Ginnethon, Baruch,
Meshullam, Abijah, Mijamin,
Maaziah, Bilgai, Shemaiah: these were the priests.
And the Levites: both Jeshua the son of Azaniah, Binnui of the sons of Henadad, Kadmiel;
And their brethren, Shebaniah, Hodijah, Kelita, Pelaiah, Hanan,
Micha, Rehob, Hashabiah,
Zaccur, Sherebiah, Shebaniah,
Hodijah, Bani, Beninu.
The chief of the people; Parosh, Pahathmoab, Elam, Zatthu, Bani,
Bunni, Azgad, Bebai,
Adonijah, Bigvai, Adin,
Ater, Hizkijah, Azzur,
Hodijah, Hashum, Bezai,
Hariph, Anathoth, Nebai,
Magpiash, Meshullam, Hezir,
Meshezabeel, Zadok, Jaddua,
Pelatiah, Hanan, Anaiah,
Hoshea, Hananiah, Hashub,
Hallohesh, Pileha, Shobek,
Rehum, Hashabnah, Maaseiah,
And Ahijah, Hanan, Anan,
Malluch, Harim, Baanah.
And the rest of the people, the priests, the Levites, the porters, the singers, the Nethinims, and all they that had separated themselves from the people of the lands unto the law of God, their wives, their sons, and their daughters, everyone having knowledge, and having understanding;
They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, and into an oath, to walk in God’s law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORD our Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;
And that we would not give our daughters unto the people of the land, nor take their daughters for our sons:
And if the people of the land bring ware or any victuals on the sabbath day to sell, that we would not buy it of them on the sabbath, or on a holy day: and that we would leave the seventh year, and the exaction of every debt.
Also, we made ordinances for us, to charge ourselves yearly with the third part of a shekel for the service of the house of our God;
For the showbread, and for the continual meat offering, and for the continual burnt offering, of the sabbaths, of the new moons, for the set feasts, and for the holy things, and for the sin offerings to make an atonement for Israel, and for all the work of the house of our God.
And we cast the lots among the priests, the Levites, and the people, for the wood offering, to bring it into the house of our God, after the houses of our fathers, at times appointed year by year, to burn upon the altar of the LORD our God, as it is written in the law:
And to bring the firstfruits of our ground, and the firstfruits of all fruit of all trees, year by year, unto the house of the LORD:
Also the firstborn of our sons, and of our cattle, as it is written in the law, and the firstlings of our herds and of our flocks, to bring to the house of our God, unto the priests that minister in the house of our God:
And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.
For the children of Israel and the children of Levi shall bring the offering of the corn, of the new wine, and the oil, unto the chambers, where are the vessels of the sanctuary, and the priests that minister, and the porters, and the singers: and we will not forsake the house of our God.


 
Most of the verses you posted are great verses about atonement, but I don't see any that mention "limited" atonement.
Jesus died for all His blood is sufficient for all. Everyone has a chance to be saved.

1Tim 2:3; This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Tim 2:4; who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2Pet 3:9; The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

 
Most of the verses you posted are great verses about atonement, but I don't see any that mention "limited" atonement.
Jesus died for all His blood is sufficient for all.


The Sprit of Christ is sufficient for as many as the father gave him they alone can come not one more or less than he gave them power to believe and perform it to His good pleasure. He is of one mind and always does whatsoever his soul desires .(JOB 23) It is he that makes our new born again heart soft watering it with his doctrines that fall like rain or dew upon the green grass .

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

John 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
 
John 1:11; He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him.
John 1:12; But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

Not everyone who belongs to Him receives Him. It's up to us to receive Him.
 
John 1:11; He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him.
John 1:12; But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

Not everyone who belongs to Him receives Him. It's up to us to receive Him.

If he empowers us to we can come , as the many the father gave to the Son do come, drawn by the words of the father
 
Most of the verses you posted are great verses about atonement, but I don't see any that mention "limited" atonement.
Jesus died for all His blood is sufficient for all. Everyone has a chance to be saved.

1Tim 2:3; This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Tim 2:4; who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2Pet 3:9; The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.


The Promise is for those who do the will of God, you need to keep all of His Commandments, you have to walk-in all His Statues, and the Lord gives Pacific task to individuals to do them

John 12:25-26 (NKJV) He who loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, Him My Father will honor.

Matthew 10:39-41 (KJV) He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

These are one of many Promise when one individual's do His Commandments, and walk-in all His Statues fulfilled one Promise, a Promise is given, Christ's Day of Atonement, you say His Blood, I give a mystery how much blood to save one life
 
I learn that people only see what they choose to see, if not in their liking the mind just suppress it
 
Matthew 22:14 (KJV) For many are called, but few are chosen.

All are called but few are chosen, this is called limited atonement

Matthew 20:16 (KJV) So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many are called, but few chosen.

1# The last are first, and the first last: two ways to interpret this way

2# Those that were last Rejected men and women are the first of chosen to come to the Lord, are broken and with a contrite

3# While you not taken my care vineyard, giving to alien my vineyard, it’s given it to those I have chosen, my vineyard, of these, is most humble to my Father in Heaven, are the last, that is first? From the living

4# Rejected men and women, of the poor of these people, the first of God’s chosen

5# A living stone
A living stone is the human Temple (heart), chosen’s one or non believes that becoming, the sacrifices of a human heart acceptable to God through Jesus Christ


Coming to Him as to a living stone,
rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious,
you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
(1 Peter 2:4-5)

But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
(Jeremiah 31:33)

Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,
in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

(Ephesians 2:19-22)
 
If he empowers us to we can come, as the many the father gave to the Son do come, drawn by the words of the father


those he chose, but not of your own
John 15:16 (NKJV) You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.

John 5:30-34 (NKJV) I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.
"If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true.
There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that the witness which He witnesses of Me are true.
You have sent to John, and he has borne witness to the truth.
Yet I do not receive testimony from man, but I say these things that you may be saved.
 
Sure I would be happy to explain limited Atonement . It is a false doctrine from which the Calvinist Cult presume that Christ died for some. Namely the elect. This is doctrine is accompanied by a false view that God chose some and died for the church but did not die for the sins of the whole world as said in 1 John. Personally I believe their view of Christ is skewed but woe to one that tries to reason with them from the Scripture .
 
Sure I would be happy to explain limited Atonement. It is a false doctrine from which the Calvinist Cult presume that Christ died for some. Namely the elect. This is doctrine is accompanied by a false view that God chose some and died for the church but did not die for the sins of the whole world as said in 1 John. Personally, I believe their view of Christ is skewed but woe to one that tries to reason with them from the Scripture.

greeting
so your saying that Atonement is not limited, explain in Matthew 22: 14 For many are called but few are chosen
if many are called but few are chosen, wouldn't say that few are limited, but those who are chosen are atone

explain Matthew 20:16 (NKJV) So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen."

explain Matthew 10:39 (NKJV) He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.
 
All the Father gives to Jesus ( chosen ) as you Calvinists say , Are the ones who believe. But it is hard to get an honest answer because you look at the Bible through the filter of T.U.L.I.P. Which is totally false and unscriptural. Any discussion you have about the Bible must not be comparing scripture with scripture but through that filter. I just spent 6 years debating with an old friend to no avail . I came to the conclusion that his Jesus is another Jesus and not the Jesus of the Bible. ;
 
By the way, what on Gods green earth does Matthew 10:39 have to do with the Calvinist justification of limited atonement ?
 
By the way, what on Gods green earth does Matthew 10:39 have to do with the Calvinist justification of limited atonement?

Greeting :)
I am not Calvinist number one, my authority is the bible, and the bible alone, I am outside of any church, then the church would have authority over me, not happening
I am self-taught my authority is the full Gospel 36 years in the making :cool:
just, a question explains Matthew 10:39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

and just say everything has limits, though God's love is everlast which has no limits, patience is a virtue
 
To restore Adams lost dominion Christ had to die for all ALL of Adams descendants . The Calvinist are the issuers of the limited atonement doctrine. Christs death on the cross was for every human until the end of time. As the second Adam He represented the creation MAN. As the head of the Human Race as did Adam. Limited Atonement does not work, with divine jurisprudence.
 
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