I'm still not understanding what you're implying. Who is blaming who for what ? Please if you're making an assumption or in mind believing it's a factual statement please quote me then analyze me so I can understand where you're coming from.
So if u blame these false teachers for not sticking to the bible i dont think TJ has either for letting false teachings in the site even at main page.
Again if you're saying something please link it or quote it. Also if you found something on this site to be false why would you sick back and not contact Chad or the other moderators and wait now to bring it up ?
So i'm just saying that I think christians easily err and we should always look to ourselfs as well when looking to others and judging.
Again please quote me judging someone, I can't have a constructive response if you're not telling me what I said to make you feel the way you do. That sort of thinking is what allows the feebleminded to be manipulated. You have wounded sheeps in churches under false teachers and because they may not be walking in a straight line , they accept the errors of the leader because " If I'm not perfect therefore I can't say nothing about the pastor ,'' False leaaders have infiltrated that lie of "don't be judging me" " touch not my anointed", " you're not suppose to judge look at yourself first ." Now we have more sin in church cause everyone's afraid to be seen as judgemental.
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
2.Christianity. Matthew 7.1-5
The church always stop at the Judge not, if you're lucky they might add the.. that you be judged. If you argue with them they'll quote verse 2 to really try to shut you up. Yet they will never, never, never read it in it's full context. The manipulation and mind control steps in when they hit you with verse 3.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
( southern accent ) Brother Joe look at yourself first don't be judging no body up in here. Now brother joe has to shut up because he remembers where he was last friday night, but he forgot he repented and asked God to forgive on Saturday. The fear was already instilled and in his head he's now confirming " who am I to judge ."
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Verse 5 says it all, clean your house then you can tell others to clean their houses.
It kinda makes me assume that the TJ's faith statement is going to radically change soon. So if u blame these false teachers for not sticking to the bible i dont think TJ has either for letting false teachings in the site even at main page.
You don't have to assume anything, if there is error you say something. Don't wait for a thread like this to now say there are errors on this site.
The first time you saw you could contact Chad or a moderator, and do so with scripture.
TJ's faith statement is going to radically change soon Why would it ?
I don't fall for fear mongering and the whole don't judge. I'll call you out, Matthew 7 verse 1 can be said to me a million times I will not feel guilty for assessing or judging someone or something. That whole do not judge does not affect me because I'm not under the christian system but God's Holy Spirit. When truth needs to be said it's going to be said, when correction is being given, with and only with scripture it will be taken. Correction based on feelings or emotions " what you said don't make me feel good , " you made me feel guilty ..why are you saying that , it hurts my feelings. If a person loves you they'll tell you when you're wrong.
Again no where did I judge, blame as you said anything or anyone.
My only words in the original post is this
That's why I'm confused by your conclusions, for I never once formed one opinion, blamed, or judged anyone in the original post. In it's full context it means what it means word for word.
The above is literal, it's not a metaphor. Based on the article written by Charles F. Stanley lets use it ( the principles stated ) and line it up with the videos to see if it can help pick out false teachers. I don't know if you watched the videos only God would know, but if you haven't again you should to see if the principles work or not. And that's what the thread is about. It can be diverted into a judge not doctrine and thats ok, only if all videos were watched and the judge not doctrine applies based on your findings after watching the videos. To silent the whole thing and not have to answer the question by pulling the judge not card, how can I respond to you.
Why is this thread being used as the platform to talk about a video you believe to be in error. Did you privately contact Chad and talk about it ? If this is how you feel why now bring it up ? This statement goes back to the you can't judge because of this and that. You'll ignore this thread because you dislike another ? Did you watch the videos ? If you did please give a response to each video explaining why they can not be taken seriously, including scripture.
This being a non-denomination site, one can expect to see things that are foreign. This being said does not mean it should be excused. The problem is people wanting to debate and be right, rather than allow the bible to be the final authority on the subject.
Then you surely sleep good at night, for I wish I can think like you I'd have more peace and better sleep. The thought of christians going to hell because of false teachers and their ignorance hurts. It will always be my motivation. I wish in life I could just not say anything to offend people. When I'm silent it hurts me knowing I walked away leaving someone in error and in their sin because I didn't want to judge or offend them. The church did not become carnal overnight, it was a process and because no one wanted to judge.
2 Timothy 4
1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
To each its own, but it shouldn't be that way. We should have one goal, one mission.
I address this one last time, I didn't blame anything on anyone. And if there is errors on TJ ( it is a non denomination site ) are you saying I'm not authorized to talk about errors or have a thread trying to find errors and should not be taken seriously ?
This is my only words in the original post.
There was no opinion given, no conclusion, I'm basically asking people to use the principles above, watch the videos and see for themselves. I could respond and explain the video, but I won't because it beats the purpose of interaction. I also don't want anyone responding to me based on my words hence I wrote 26 ( extra can ), but them making their own judgement based on the videos. They can watch it and form their own opinions but it should be rational responses , referencing the videos, cross examining them with the principles and finally using the bible to prove their final say.
I'm not a fan of emotional responses that's why I can't respond to you on emotion, unless you come to me with contents from this thread, not using other threads to silent this and make it something not to be taken seriously. Again the judge not doctrine don't intimidate me. The devil exist, he's the enemy, he will not stop so why should we.
I was not exposing anyone, but if I wanted to I'm licensed to do so. It's strange how the church since elections judged and criticized President Barack Obama a leader called him muslim the anti-christ and it was ok. But when anyone says anything about the Holy man of God, judges him or criticizing him they must be silent. The president was not appointed to look after the sheep, he has no influence in your spiritual walk. Yet the spiritual leaders who have more influence on our lives have no accountability and we should not judge.
We all have our own focus and I respect yours, I don't mean to offend if these videos did offend you. I live on the alert and I'm always watching. I believe it's hard times and people need to examine who they are listening to, origins of doctrines, traditions and if it comes off as judging or it is judging then may I do it righteously and not like a hypocrite. That same emotional high fox news have the church on when judging the president , they need to use that same energy to keep their pastors in check.
My focus is to wake those who are asleep under these christian mind control doctrines , that manipulates , instill fear instead of the truth found in the bible.
I like how the amplified said it.
2 Timothy 4
1I CHARGE [you] in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, Who is to judge the living and the dead, and by (in the light of) His coming and His kingdom:
2Herald and preach the Word! Keep your sense of urgency [stand by, be at hand and ready], whether the opportunity seems to be favorable or unfavorable. [Whether it is convenient or inconvenient, whether it is welcome or unwelcome, you as preacher of the Word are to show people in what way their lives are wrong.] And convince them, rebuking and correcting, warning and urging and encouraging them, being unflagging and inexhaustible in patience and teaching.
3For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,
4And will turn aside from hearing the truth and wander off into myths and man-made fictions
I would look into the video you keep referencing and that is causing you to not take this seriously. I advise you next time if you see something say something to Administrator or moderator. If you believe something is error send a private message and scripture to explain your concerns. This is the only way of solving the problem, using this thread was not the appropriate platform, but you've been heard and will look into it.
Be blessed
