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Follow The Lamb

Hiswillbedone

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Revelation 14:3-4, "And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth...These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."

Many believe that the 144,000 are Jews. How can this be when the book of Revelation describes them as "following the Lamb (Jesus) wherever He goes." If Jews don't believe in Jesus, then how can they follow Him wherever He goes as the 144,000 are described as doing?

In peace
 
Revelation 14:3-4, "And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth...These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."

Many believe that the 144,000 are Jews. How can this be when the book of Revelation describes them as "following the Lamb (Jesus) wherever He goes." If Jews don't believe in Jesus, then how can they follow Him wherever He goes as the 144,000 are described as doing?

In peace

How can the 144,000 not be Jews when it is specifically stated in (Rev. 7:4-8).

The Jews at that time will turn to Christ.

Quantrill
 
How can the 144,000 not be Jews when it is specifically stated in (Rev. 7:4-8).

The Jews at that time will turn to Christ.

Quantrill
Notice the 12 tribes mentioned in Rev 7:4-8. Are they the same tribes that are recorded in the OT?

In peace
 
Notice the 12 tribes mentioned in Rev 7:4-8. Are they the same tribes that are recorded in the OT?

In peace

The list of twelve tribes in the Old Testament differed several times. But the twelve tribes listed always represented the nation of Israel. There is no reason for them not to represent Israel in the book of (Revelation).

Quantrill
 
The list of twelve tribes in the Old Testament differed several times. But the twelve tribes listed always represented the nation of Israel. There is no reason for them not to represent Israel in the book of (Revelation).

Quantrill
Really? I never knew that. Mind sharing some scriptures that support the idea that the 12 tribes differed/changed.

In peace
 
Really? I never knew that. Mind sharing some scriptures that support the idea that the 12 tribes differed/changed.

In peace

Here are just a few instances. (Gen. 46:8-25) (Gen. 49:3-27) (Num. 1:5-15) (Num. 13:4-15) (Num. 26:5-50)

The changes seem to revolve around Levi, and Joseph and Joseph's sons Manasseh and Ephraim. But also in (Rev. 7:4-8) Dan is missing.

Quantrill
 
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