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For Our Sake

Sue J Love

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Saturday, October 3, 2015, 11:04 p.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “For Our Nation.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Isaiah 43:14-44:5 (NASB).

He Makes a Way (43:14-19)

Thus says the Lord your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel,

“For your sake I have sent to Babylon,
And will bring them all down as fugitives,
Even the Chaldeans, into the ships in which they rejoice.
“I am the Lord, your Holy One,
The Creator of Israel, your King.”
Thus says the Lord,


Who makes a way through the sea
And a path through the mighty waters,
Who brings forth the chariot and the horse,
The army and the mighty man
(They will lie down together and not rise again;
They have been quenched and extinguished like a wick):
“Do not call to mind the former things,
Or ponder things of the past.
“Behold, I will do something new,
Now it will spring forth;
Will you not be aware of it?
I will even make a roadway in the wilderness,
Rivers in the desert.

For the sake of the wayward, worldly, idolatrous and adulterous church here in America, God has already sent the instruments of his divine judgment into America, i.e. he has sent the New World Order and its military force (of differing types) in order to bring down the US government, i.e. to take down our nation. The main reason I believe God is judging America now is in order to rescue his church out of captivity to all the lies fed to them on a daily basis by the news media, our government leaders, and by many of our leaders within the church. The vast majority of the church in America has been hoodwinked by master manipulators who have deceived, tricked and hornswoggled the church into accepting their lies as truth. And, so God is using this judgment in order to expose the lies, to open the eyes of his church so they can see the truth and be moved to repentance, and so he can heal them, revive them and restore them to proper fellowship with their Lord Jesus/God.

This New World Order is a conglomerate of the wealthy, powerful and elite of this world, heads of nations, big banks, CEOs of companies, the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, and the Council on Foreign Relations, etc. The USA was created for the very purpose of bringing the world to the point to where we would all come under this New World Order – a One World Tyrannical Government. Our national symbols tell the story, as well as do our history books, if we know what to look for. This N.W.O. is this All-Seeing Eye which sits atop the unfinished pyramid on the Great Seal of the USA, which is on our $1 bills. Right now the “eye” hovers over the top of the pyramid, but soon it will be the top of this pyramid when the whole world has truly been brought under the rule of this “beast.”

This N.W.O. is on a mission, and they will not retreat. They are, in fact, significantly strengthening their offensive on the USA, which is also an attack on the church in America, too. One of their weapons of warfare (or military force) is via the media. The media pretty much daily now shares stories written in coded language, and very little of it can be trusted. So many of these news stories, as well, are fabricated, and/or many of the situations they report on are orchestrated by this N.W.O. and/or are either fully or partially staged. One of their greatest weapons against us is deception, but their true intentions are beginning to come out via the government-controlled media and political speeches by government and church leaders, because they like to give us hints about what they are doing. A spiritually discerning mind, which knows what to watch for, can see some of the hidden intentions behind what they present on the surface, though I believe some of it is quite obvious now.

The message presently being given to the church, the people of this nation, and to the people of the world, via these global (political and church) leaders and this government-controlled media, is that we need to have a cultural revolution in this nation. This CR, though, is communistic, and its purpose is to eliminate capitalism, remove national leaders, purge the country of the preaching of the gospel of salvation, and its messengers, forcibly displace people, and seize property not their own, etc., in order to do away with the old order of things and to bring in the New World Order.

The doctrines of the Christian faith are under attack in our nation (and the world), too. “Doctrine” has become a dirty word as they associate it with being judgmental, unloving, bigoted and hateful. We are being presently inculcated with messages about not judging others’ sin, and how we need to accept and embrace people within the church, even in their sin. We are to tell no one “No, you shouldn’t do (this or that),” or that “you should do this,” but the church is supposed to take the path of human fulfillment, instead. They want us to immerse ourselves in the culture, conform to the norms of society, accept, include and tolerate all religions and all walks of life as viable, make no waves, not get in anyone’s “lane,” be lukewarm (neither hot or cold), and blend in with the world around us. If we don’t, we will come under the sharp knife of rebuke, scorn and persecution.

The whole goal of this beast New World Order is to bring the whole world underneath its communist authoritarian rule. So, the path this nation and the world is on has that as its ultimate end, which will be military rule and the death of our nation. The government of the USA is part of this N.W.O., so they are helping to bring about that end. The Lord put the name “Eleanezer” in my mind as the name of this road our nation is on. I felt it was a combination of the name Eleanor Roosevelt and Ebenezer Scrooge.

Eleanor Roosevelt was a champion of human rights, and helped establish the United Nation’s Bill of Rights, which is international law, and which sounds good on the surface, until you read what it all means. This law has to do with social justice, which is communist, i.e. it has to do with the redistribution of wealth, fulfilling our societal roles, and getting what is due us from society. It has to do with “benefits and burdens of cooperation,” being progressive, attending to the “common good” of others, and conforming to the “norms,” i.e. to the acceptable standards set by a society of human behavior. And, Ebenezer Scrooge was a cold-hearted cheapskate who hated Christmas. I believe the combination of these two people into one gives us a picture of this New World Order, only instead of hating “Christmas,” he/it hates Christians and Christ. And, it is out to destroy us.

He Will Help You (44:1-4)

“But now listen, O Jacob, My servant,
And Israel, whom I have chosen:
Thus says the Lord who made you
And formed you from the womb, who will help you,
‘Do not fear, O Jacob My servant;
And you Jeshurun whom I have chosen.
‘For I will pour out water on the thirsty land
And streams on the dry ground;
I will pour out My Spirit on your offspring
And My blessing on your descendants;
And they will spring up among the grass
Like poplars by streams of water.’

I live in South Carolina, USA. Presently, much of our state is under water, and the hits keep coming. Columbia, our capital city, and Charleston, where the civil war began, are both experiencing much flooding, as well as are other areas of this state. Yesterday, when I pulled up the radar map on my phone, the image of the storm looked like a gigantic missile had been shot (inserted) right into the state, engulfing the entire state. We have had a drought for a while, so the ground was definitely thirsty. Our state has definitely had floods, rivers, streams and rain poured upon it, and it isn’t over. I believe this is a judgment of God on our nation. SC is shaped like a heart, so this appears to be an attack on the heart (sentiment, spirit, core, and/or fortitude) of the sovereignty of our nation and on the freedom we have had to worship God/Jesus, and to spread the gospel of salvation.

Yet, through this judgment, God promises to pour out his Holy Spirit and his spiritual blessings upon those who are thirsty for God. I believe this promise is not just for the unsaved, but for the church living presently in spiritual adultery and idolatry. If the people of God will humble themselves, call upon God, turn from their wicked ways, and turn to follow their Lord in humble surrender and obedience to his will for their lives, he will heal them spiritually, will pour out his Spirit upon them, and he will fill them with his spiritual blessings. I believe this is a promise of revival of the church that is thirsty for God.

God does not promise us we will not go through difficult times, or that we will not suffer persecution for the sake of his name. In fact, he promises us that we will be hated, persecuted and even put to death for our faith in Christ. This persecution has come to America, and it will be realized more and more in the days to come, I believe. We must not compromise our faith to be accepted. We must not cave to these manipulative messages intended to shame us into cooperation with this “beast” and its one-world government and religion. We are not to copy worldly customs, i.e. we are not to conform to the norms of society, but we are to be conformed to the image of Christ. Doctrine is our friend if we use it properly. True love does not tell people lies, nor does it withhold the truth from others in order to have people like us and accept us. Being a “nice guy” does not get you to heaven. Only by God’s grace, through faith in Jesus Christ, do we have the hope of heaven.

So, be aware of these subtle lies and manipulations, and daily put on the armor of God with which to fight off Satan’s evil schemes against you. Don’t be afraid of what is here and what is coming. God told us a long time ago this day would come. Being an American does not make us exempt from persecution, though some people would have you believe differently. God will see us through. He is absolutely sovereign and in control and he is in authority over every power and rule and authority, so nothing can touch us but what God allows it, he allows it for a purpose, and that he will give us all we need to make it through whatever he allows to come our way. Just keep holding on to your faith and don’t ever give up! This judgment is necessary in order to turn God’s adulterous people back to him.

For Our Nation / An Original Work / September 11, 2012

Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: we’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

 
So few are understanding the message which you present, but which is not from you, but from God.
 
So few are understanding the message which you present, but which is not from you, but from God.

Amadeus, first of all let me say that I give God all the glory for anything he has done through me. Second of all, I want to thank you so much for your words of encouragement and affirmation. I do believe that much of the church in America is living under a veil of deception, and that they cannot see the truth of God's Word, so we need to pray for them that God will open their eyes to see, that they will repent of their sin of spiritual adultery, and that they will be restored to fellowship with their One and Only God, Lord, Savior and master of their lives - God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
 
Amadeus, first of all let me say that I give God all the glory for anything he has done through me. Second of all, I want to thank you so much for your words of encouragement and affirmation. I do believe that much of the church in America is living under a veil of deception, and that they cannot see the truth of God's Word, so we need to pray for them that God will open their eyes to see, that they will repent of their sin of spiritual adultery, and that they will be restored to fellowship with their One and Only God, Lord, Savior and master of their lives - God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Yes dear Sister you have again said some very true words with regard to many who stand supposedly as believers. I also am praying for them.
Give God the glory!
 
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