Forgive and Forget

[hx8]

Remember, it goes both ways. If you want people to become your friends, then you must reach out to us as well. That's what friendships are. They work both ways.

That is very true, and a wise thing to say.

At the same time though, if you consider the parable of the good samaritan and the half-dead man by the side of the road, you would not expect the man who was beaten and left for dead to be capable, at that moment, of the same compassion that the samaritan exhibited, right?

so there is a time for giving, and a time for taking. Certainly friendship is a two way street, but comfort is given to those who are broken, so they can be mended, so they too can later give comfort to others, right?

certainly one wouldn't expect the parable of the good samaritan to rebuke the half-dead man for using the samaritan's kindness. the question to Jesus was, who is my neighbor? and the lesson was: what is love? who am i to love? and how? the lesson in that parable was to love the one who is broken, not expect the one who is broken to be the one who gives first.

besides that, i am new here, and you are an established member of this community. I am seeking who here is a good Christian that I may connect with, and in time, when I am well again, I will seek who here needs me. Friendship is a two way street, to be sure. But there's a time to give and a time to take. So while your sentiment about friendships does seem wise, it is at the same time not a great comfort to one in need such as myself. Truly, I will reciprocate any kindness you give, and throughout my life I have tried to always initiate kindness mercy and friendship to those around me. I have found however that when I initiate kindness, it is often never returned.

So now, I am asking for kindness, and there is no sin in that.

 

[hx8]

You speak with such anger. Perhaps you are not getting enough joy out of people outside of forums. The first you should seek, is God.

God is with me.

You are right, I do have some anger, and I'm not afraid to admit it. Ashamed maybe, but not afraid. I confess my anger, and I repent of it. But I want to go beyond that anger, to build new connections. I want to go beyond my bitterness, to connect with the body of Christ. If there is one.

And that is what this message, this intro, is about. Finding people who ARE in the body, finding people who DO ----obey---- the new commandment, who DO love their neighbor AS christ has loved them.

This message is about new beginnings as much as it is about anger about old burnt bridges, that I did not set afire.

You are speaking to one who has been betrayed, who has been abandoned, who has sought out love, who has given love, which has never been reciprocated. I'm trying to find anyone out there that Jesus REALLY IS living in. I readily confess my anger, and repent of it. But are you ready to live love? Are you ready to step beyond fear, step beyond your own comfort zone, and love me as you love yourself?

what if you you were feeling the pain that i've felt for years, friendless? you'd be writing the same intro message, as i stated in the OP. i'm not bitter anymore, but,,,,,,,,,,,, i do need someone out there reading this to respond to me AS IF i were you. what would you have me write to you if you had posted this intro?

look, i readily admit that i don't know the first thing about making friends. but, those of you who do, and those of you who have faith in the risen Lord Jesus, need to step up to the plate and show some love.

And lastly, do unto others what you would have them do unto you. If you want true friends then be a true friend to others. You'd be surprised at how filled you will feel and will be. Message me if you need someone to talk to. ^.^

I couldn't agree more, and will message you in due time. but for now, reply again, try a little harder, go the extra mile. what i need is not a lecture, but some compassion and mercy.

see matthew 25, 2nd parable.

 

[hx8]

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I logged on just now after receiving (in a roundabout way) very joyful news, that I must tell everyone who loves the Lord, but, I cannot tell the details. But, ...... rejoice with me. I'll say this---- the ***** has been judged.

Rev17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the ***** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Rev17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the *****, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

God has, .................. finally.................... answered my prayers, with regard to 1 specific thing, 1 specific person. He has pleaded my cause and brought judgment upon my enemy. All this I know, from a single picture, from 1 single picture. But it is a joyful hour.......... the 9th hour of the 28th day of October 2009......... finally. He has crushed this wicked person under his mighty foot and heard my prayer. Finally. I knew he would, but it took so long. Things are looking up every day. I am......... utterly overjoyed. Finally. It is...... as if....... the person who murdered your mother and father was found to be dead from being killed in an accident, only better. Yet even better than that. Still better than that. Thanks be to God who judges justly and upholds the cause of his servants.

 

[PhoenixRising]

I logged on just now after receiving (in a roundabout way) very joyful news, that I must tell everyone who loves the Lord, but, I cannot tell the details. But, ...... rejoice with me. I'll say this---- the ***** has been judged.

Rev17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the ***** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Rev17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the *****, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

God has, .................. finally.................... answered my prayers, with regard to 1 specific thing, 1 specific person. He has pleaded my cause and brought judgment upon my enemy. All this I know, from a single picture, from 1 single picture. But it is a joyful hour.......... the 9th hour of the 28th day of October 2009......... finally. He has crushed this wicked person under his mighty foot and heard my prayer. Finally. I knew he would, but it took so long. Things are looking up every day. I am......... utterly overjoyed. Finally. It is...... as if....... the person who murdered your mother and father was found to be dead from being killed in an accident, only better. Yet even better than that. Still better than that. Thanks be to God who judges justly and upholds the cause of his servants.

I've read this whole thread and was thinking of how to reply and also welcome you at the same time. I understand you are angry. You feel betrayed by people in general and perhaps one in particular? Who understands that better than Jesus, who was betrayed by one of His very own, Judas Iscariot?

YET, Jesus knowing this waayyyy in advance, STILL broke bread with Judas and loved him, in spite of knowing that He, the very God of the universe has been sold out for a mere 30 sheckels of silver. What an insult!! But Jesus still died on the cross for Judas, did He not?

Yes, David prayed many times to God to both protect him from and avenge him of his enemies. God did.

Let's not also forget God's commandment about forgiveness and not to repay in kind. As we have been betrayed, so have we betrayed others...in different little ways or even big ones. As we have been hurt, so we too have caused hurt to others because we're all too human.

In other words, in many ways, maybe not meaning to or even being aware, we have done to others as they have done to us. If everybody then were to pray the same prayer to God about avenging our cause etc, can I say that not a single person will be left standing??

Recognising God's faithfulness and loving-kindness in all He does and thanking Him for taking up your cause IS the right thing to do. But please, let's not get carried away with gloating over it because it gives God no glory to do so.

Now, it's one thing to come into the forum looking for a true and loving connection to brothers and sisters who truly love and follow Jesus. It's quite another to demand it. I am new here too but I read every day and I see that there is plenty of love, understanding and compassion in this forum.

Just about everybody "gets" where you're coming from, I'm sure. Nonetheless, in spite of your hurt, anger or bitterness, perhaps you might be more gentle in your posts?

Leave behind (if you can) your past experience with people and come in with fresh eyes and ears, eager and ready to receive and learn from others. Expect and look forward to good things from this forum that will nourish your spirit and renew your capacity to receive what's given to you.

I pray for God to heal your broken heart and to renew a right spirit in you so that He can minister to you in the way that ONLY He can. Then you will be open to receive His love and His healing AND the love of others everywhere you go.

After all, we cannot give what we don't have and we can't teach what we don't know and we tend to find whatever it is we're looking for, subconsciously or actively. Is this not so?

Welcome to TalkJesus, HX8. God bless everyone in this lovely forum!

 

[hx8]

Shall the widow in the parable, who prayed for God to avenge her of her adversary, be ashamed when God does so?

Luke18:1 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;
2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:
3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;
5 Yet because this widow troubles me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man comes, shall he find faith on the earth?

Certainly, that widow should not be ashamed when her adversary is avenged. And even if no man rejoices with me in my happiest hour, it will not detract for my joy one bit. God has done it. He has done it, as he had promised. Glory be to Christ.

Shall we forgive every man? even if they do not repent? consider:

John20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
John20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

The Lord would not give his disciples the power to retain sins unto a person if it were not in keeping with good doctrine to do so.

How does the Lord want us to forgive when we are offended?
Do we immediately forgive? Consider:

Mat18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Mat18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Follow the flow of Matthew 18.............
IF your brother trespass against you.... REBUKE him.
and --IF-- he repent, forgive him. It does not say to
immediately forgive him, it does not say to not rebuke him,
it does not say to forgive him even if your rebuke isn't heeded.
No, it says:

Luke17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
Luke17:4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

IF trespass THEN rebuke. IF he repent THEN forgive.

Consider also how he says it in verse 4: they must seven times say "I repent". But if a person is rebuked, and they repent not, shall we offer them forgiveness? Jesus says no. He has given specific guidelines as to how to deal with trespass. IF sin THEN rebuke, IF repent THEN forgive.

And if they do not repent?

Mat18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Even so, thanks be to God for judging the heathen, and retaining their sins, even as thou hast commanded.

 

[hx8]

But Jesus still died on the cross for Judas, did He not?

No he did not die for the son of perdition:

John17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
John17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Nor will Jesus forgive the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost, even though he died for "every sin".

Mark3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mark3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Mark3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

Also consider:

Heb10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

consider also the fate of Ananias, who died, with his wife, right in the middle of church.

Acts5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
Acts5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
Acts5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Acts5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
Acts5:5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
Acts5:6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

 

[hx8]

God is more than only merciful, he is just.

As for believers who continue in sin, see the Hebrews passage above. or the 1st John passage below. Believers do not continue in sin.

1Jn3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
1Jn3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
1Jn3:4 Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn3:6 Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn3:8 He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

God's children repent of sin, and as it is written in 1st John 3:6 "whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him." and 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

I reckon any "believer" who continues unrepentant in sin is no more saved than any other hypocrite.

 

[hx8]

Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

 

[TheSilentHero]

Think about this. If you are so bent on not showing compassion to the one who hurt you, then why should any of us show compassion or merci to someone who is spiritually prideful and has not compassionate to the one who hurt them?

Mark 11:25
And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.
Luke 6:35-38;42
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." ... How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.


You are so wrapped up in vengeance that the people who are trying to show you the way are being ignored. These people who even bother to write to you must care about you. Now also keep in mind that this is internet based thing. I'm not here for best friends, I am just here to spread the good news. But like Jesus I will love everyone. So if you want to message me great. But it doesn't hurt my feelings either way. A word to the wise as well, please study the scriptures a bit more. Instead of looking at them with your eyes, look at them in God's eyes. And one more thing, as long as ANYONE repents of their sin, whether they be believer or not, God will always forgive them. Jesus is the lamb shed for everyone's sins.

Now, I'm here to talk to, but I will no longer argue with you. lol. It's tiring and there are some walls that God himself will have to break down in you first. I will pray that you find happiness

 

[hx8]

lol it has nothing to do with vengeance but with justice. and anyone who would be my friend would rejoice with me when justice is done.

i'm not here to argue, but a very important event happened in my life and if you want to give me flak about it then obviously we're not destined to be friends, and i'm ok with that. i'm here to be friends with people who actually believe in God.

on a side note, apparently you've never read the psalms.

I'm not here for best friends, I am just here to spread the good news

talk about preaching to the choir... you ... want to ... spread the good news,... on a board that's already devoted to christianity. chances are, if someone found this site, they already know about Jesus. Try spreading the good news somewhere that they've never heard it. now, if you said you were here for fellowship, that would be a different issue. but as you said, you're not here for best friends, == not here for fellowship. i am. if i want to spread the good news, i'll go to africa or asia or somewhere they haven't heard of it, certainly, not, on a board devoted to christianity.

 

[hx8]

I've read this whole thread and was thinking of how to reply and also welcome you at the same time. I understand you are angry. You feel betrayed by people in general and perhaps one in particular? Who understands that better than Jesus, who was betrayed by one of His very own, Judas Iscariot?

YET, Jesus knowing this waayyyy in advance, STILL broke bread with Judas and loved him, in spite of knowing that He, the very God of the universe has been sold out for a mere 30 sheckels of silver. What an insult!! But Jesus still died on the cross for Judas, did He not?

Yes, David prayed many times to God to both protect him from and avenge him of his enemies. God did.

I thank you for your reply and your welcome.
As you already stated, David did pray for God to avenge him against the wicked. He did not avenge himself, but he left place for God's vengeance. That-- is waiting for justice, a holy thing to do. Taking vengeance myself, as I was tempted to do many times, would not be a holy thing to do. But there is no sin in rejoicing that God has fulfilled his promise to take up the cause of his saints and punish those who oppose them. I sincerely pray that the person which did those things to me repent and thus be forgiven. In the meantime, I rejoice that, since they have not, they have gotten their just reward. And anyone who will be my friend will rejoice with me.

Let's not also forget God's commandment about forgiveness and not to repay in kind. As we have been betrayed, so have we betrayed others...in different little ways or even big ones. As we have been hurt, so we too have caused hurt to others because we're all too human.

But, the difference is, God's saints have repented. The wicked do not. If we had not repented, if we continued in those betrayals, then there would be a problem. But, having forsaken those wicked ways, having been born again, repenting, and sinning no more, as Jesus commanded, we have been forgiven our past sins and live according to the Spirit.

In other words, in many ways, maybe not meaning to or even being aware, we have done to others as they have done to us. If everybody then were to pray the same prayer to God about avenging our cause etc, can I say that not a single person will be left standing??

You're left with a small problem then. You have in Luke 18 a widow, in a parable of Jesus, who is bothering an unjust judge to avenge her of her adversary. Jesus in that parable does not rebuke her for her actions, and he does not rebuke his saints for their likewise prayer, saying rather, in the NEW testament, that God will avenge his saints who cry out to him day and night for the aforementioned justice which will undoubtedly come upon all those who oppose God and his saints. And I daresay, few WILL be left standing, in due time, for narrow is the way to life, and few there be that find it, as Jesus stated explicitly. It is written that God laughs at them which go to hell.

Recognising God's faithfulness and loving-kindness in all He does and thanking Him for taking up your cause IS the right thing to do. But please, let's not get carried away with gloating over it because it gives God no glory to do so.

I apologize for offending you with my overflowing joy that God has taken my cause up. However, it doesn't take away from the fact that it is the happiest hour of my life, proving that God is on my side and hears my prayers, that he helps them that help me, and that, per psalm 118, I shall see my desire upon them that hate me. Note that it does not say "upon them that I hate", but, "upon them that hate me".

Psa118:7 The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.

Now, it's one thing to come into the forum looking for a true and loving connection to brothers and sisters who truly love and follow Jesus. It's quite another to demand it. I am new here too but I read every day and I see that there is plenty of love, understanding and compassion in this forum.

I suppose you think that I am demanding it, by begging for a friend in the original post. I can't say I understand what you mean.

What I do demand is that Christians obey the new commandment to love their neighbor as Christ has loved them. And unsurprisingly enough, I am your neighbor. But if you consider my humble and humiliating begging for friends to be a demand, then I apologize for offending you.

Just about everybody "gets" where you're coming from, I'm sure. Nonetheless, in spite of your hurt, anger or bitterness, perhaps you might be more gentle in your posts?

well, they wouldn't be able to "get" where i'm coming from, or who i am, if i had not posted as i did. i'm not here to be fake with my emotions. God gave me my emotions, and i've merely expressed them. the word of the Lord is a sword. there are times when swords are not gentle.

Leave behind (if you can) your past experience with people and come in with fresh eyes and ears, eager and ready to receive and learn from others. Expect and look forward to good things from this forum that will nourish your spirit and renew your capacity to receive what's given to you.

i'm ready for that, assuming i can find people worthy of a two way friendship here. i've seen how people have responded to the good news i received. and from what i know of friendships, friends rejoice with their friends over good news received. i do expect and look forward to good things here, if there are some. but don't fault me for calling them like i see's em.

I pray for God to heal your broken heart and to renew a right spirit in you so that He can minister to you in the way that ONLY He can. Then you will be open to receive His love and His healing AND the love of others everywhere you go.

thank you for your prayers. pray all you want, but what i really need is your companionship, moreso than your prayers. He ministers to us through his saints. I already have all the comfort I need from the Comforter, who gives me assurance of eternal life and has just recently comforted me through avenging me of my enemy. And, on this forum and several others, he has brought me a couple of friends who do seem to love God. I don't think I'm demanding friendship, but, rather, begging for it, hoping that plea for mercy meets a soft heart to form the glue of companionship.

After all, we cannot give what we don't have and we can't teach what we don't know and we tend to find whatever it is we're looking for, subconsciously or actively. Is this not so?

Welcome to TalkJesus, HX8. God bless everyone in this lovely forum!

that might be true. i'll take it under consideration in prayer. thank you for your warm welcome.

 

[hx8]

Luk 6:28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

I pray daily for all those who come against me to come to His salvation. This is the Master's heart and so it must be mine. I do not rejoice when my enemies fall but I can and must have this heart: Father I choose to forgive my enemies. I pray the blessing of salvation over them and ask You do not judge them for my sake. Have mercy on them Lord just as You have mercy on me.In Jesus Name I pray, believeing that You hear and will answer, amen.


This I must do for whoever and whenever someone comes against me for Christ's Namesake for my God is a jealous God and very protective of me.

Then forgive them as God has commanded:

Luke17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
Luke17:4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

Those who repent get forgiven, after having been rebuked. You don't forgive people who don't repent. That is why so many so-called Christians struggle with "forgiving" those who have hurt them.... if you've been hurt, and you've rebuked a person, and they do not repent, God does not require you to forgive them. They struggle with forgiving them who do not repent because God does not forgive those who do not repent.

 

[TheSilentHero]

*sigh* you aren't listening. lol. Now you are trying to corrupt my words. I'm spreading the joy I've found. Even Christians need guidance. God hasn't called me to third world countries, he told me to start here. I'm spreading the good news about how wonderful God is. I've crossed into spiritual adulthood because I now realize the full extent of God's love. Of course you have to have Jesus to be saved. There is no other way to be saved. But non-believers have to be willing to repent of their sins. If they can turn away from their sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, then they will saved. Christians are already saved. But because we love God, we should always repent. And he gives us the holy spirit to stay on track. The only sin that is not forgivable, is not accepting Jesus into your heart. And yes I'm here to fellowship. But Church is also for fellowship. And that's where you should look for the friendship fulfillment you are searching for. I'm not here because I'm lonely in life or because I need someone to talk to, I'm here to enjoy God's love and peace in others, and then to help those that need some guidance. So it doesn't really bother me if you want to be my friend or not. I think really, you are picking fights for attention. You're 29 years old and you probably haven't found a friend that will be there for you always and never let you down. One thing you have to realize is like I said, this is an online forum. You will find good safe people here yes, but they most likely won't really fulfill your desire for friendship because we all need physical proof of a person's presence. It's just part of how God created us. I only offered to be someone to talk to on here. But I have other obligations, like school, work and life, and other friends that need me. So I'm not promising to be your one friend to count on. But I wont betray or hurt you either. I'm just here spread the love of God to Christians and non-believers. Did you notice there was a thread for how to get saved on here? I'm new and I haven't visited it yet simply cause I'm short on time. But I know I'm saved. I know where I am going. So regardless of how you twist my words, it doesn't change my salvation through Jesus Christ. Lastly, I'm hungry. I think I'll go see what I can find to eat. ^.^

 

[hx8]

*sigh* you aren't listening. lol. Now you are trying to corrupt my words. I'm spreading the joy I've found. Even Christians need guidance. God hasn't called me to third world countries, he told me to start here. I'm spreading the good news about how wonderful God is. I've crossed into spiritual adulthood because I now realize the full extent of God's love. Of course you have to have Jesus to be saved. There is no other way to be saved. But non-believers have to be willing to repent of their sins. If they can turn away from their sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, then they will saved. Christians are already saved. But because we love God, we should always repent. And he gives us the holy spirit to stay on track. The only sin that is not forgivable, is not accepting Jesus into your heart. And yes I'm here to fellowship. But Church is also for fellowship. And that's where you should look for the friendship fulfillment you are searching for. I'm not here because I'm lonely in life or because I need someone to talk to, I'm here to enjoy God's love and peace in others, and then to help those that need some guidance. So it doesn't really bother me if you want to be my friend or not. I think really, you are picking fights for attention. You're 29 years old and you probably haven't found a friend that will be there for you always and never let you down. One thing you have to realize is like I said, this is an online forum. You will find good safe people here yes, but they most likely won't really fulfill your desire for friendship because we all need physical proof of a person's presence. It's just part of how God created us. I only offered to be someone to talk to on here. But I have other obligations, like school, work and life, and other friends that need me. So I'm not promising to be your one friend to count on. But I wont betray or hurt you either. I'm just here spread the love of God to Christians and non-believers. Did you notice there was a thread for how to get saved on here? I'm new and I haven't visited it yet simply cause I'm short on time. But I know I'm saved. I know where I am going. So regardless of how you twist my words, it doesn't change my salvation through Jesus Christ. Lastly, I'm hungry. I think I'll go see what I can find to eat. ^.^

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't twisting anything, just quoting what you said. Now that you've clarified it, no problemo. Peace be with you.

Find some good eats! =)

 

[PhoenixRising]

Hello HX8,

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. I'm not the least bit offended by anything you've written. If anything, I understand your emotions and your responses. I know all about rejection, abandonment and worst of all, betrayal. I'm a very loyal person by nature and my heart was broken time and again and my psyche severely damaged, from childhood on.

I was so broken, I spent most of my life suicidal but I was too chicken to kill myself because suicide is SO permanent. I've even gone as far as researching whether or not you can still go to heaven ( as a saved and born again christian) if you commit suicide. I've been desperately depressed my whole life (even though I didn't know what was wrong with me or the word depression until I came to America) and I could find no reason to continue living, inasmuch as people kept telling me I had a purpose in God. I was like yeah, right, where is He then?!

Life has been so VERY painful for me but God for His own good reasons is determined to keep me alive and has successfully done so. Another thing about suicide....you don't get to change your mind and I was terrified of not going to heaven and missing God forever. So, I'm still here, by God's grace.

SO, if anyone HUMAN understands exactly where you're coming from, 'tis I! I really, really DO!

This is why I posted what I did this morning in response to you. God is close to the brokenhearted because He knows we can only endure so much. So, yes. I'm glad that God chose to show you how much He loves you and also to let you know that He knows and saw what was done to you by defending your cause.

Something like that reassures us that God indeed is on our side and is in our corner. He always is anyway...we just need reminding every now and then, and this He knows too, as His compassion reaches out to us.

As for begging for friendship, I don't see it as begging at all. I see it as reaching out to people but in a defensive way...but even THAT I was and am able to understand.

Remember as you are searching for "worthy" individuals to connect with, you also must show yourself worthy...it's a two way street after all.

Welcome again HX8. You can always P.M me if and when you're so inclined. God bless you!


P.S By the way, you're still going to have to forgive EVERY single person that has ever hurt you, whether or not they say they're sorry to you. Once they repent to God, (if and when they come to accept Jesus) He will forgive them, regardless.

No matter how many verses you quote from the Bible, Jesus Himself taught us how to pray: Our Father, who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name.........Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.....

When Jesus hung on the cross dying for our sins, He didn't wait for US to repent BEFORE HE did so, did He? Who suffered more than He did??....in every way imaginable??

As you keep experiencing God's amazing grace and the cleansing power of the blood our our dear, sweet Jesus, I pray that you will begin to release the bondage of unforgiveness that binds you to people or this particular person so that YOU can be free. The Bible says that who the Son has set free is free indeed.

Forgiveness is very healing and carries its own blessing. Be blessed in the name of Jesus, Amen.

 

[hx8]

Woohoo!!! The day after I got my amazing news, my girlfriend ALSO got some even MORE amazing news about her Haitian adoption!!! She has been stuck in this stage called IBESR for, like, 14 months, and --finally-- she just received news that she got out of IBESR! Her adoption is FINALLY moving forward after waiting for way too long. Praise God! She'll soon be entering a phase called Parquet. There's quite a few phases to go, but this was the longest one from what I understand. Yay!!!

-HX