Give Me an Answer - In the Beginning God, or In the Beginning Hydrogen.

[Bob Carabbio]

Or nitrogen and oxygen - as the "spirit" hovering above the water in Gen. 1:2. You know, one thing that enables the Earth to sustain life and thus distinguishes it from all other planets is the atmosphere, which is a thick layer of air. And guess what both the Hebrew word (ruach) and the Greek word (pneuma) for spirit primarily mean? Movement of AIR, as in wind and breath. "Pneuma" is the root word for "pneumonia", lung disease and "pneomology", study of lungs. The holy name of God, YHWH, is our breathing sound, YH is inhale, WH is exhale.

What gives you the idea that Gen 1:2 is the BEGINNING of creation??

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I forgive all who attack the rcc. It is understandable, those who hate us so much have been programed like robots. Preachers have taught hate speach against us for years.

The only problem i have with it all, trying to get the haters to look in the mirror, even to listen to themselves.

On one hand is the preaching, love your neifhbor as yourself. And on the other hand, hate the catholics

Agreed...Catholics are not evil. They're no different than any other

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

What gives you the idea that Gen 1:2 is the BEGINNING of creation??

I agree...It was more like retoration.

 

[Oseas]

Oseas NOBODY ever gave you the right to judge anybody! YOU are in direct violation of the Word....The Catholics are people just like you, and many many of them are born again...You have no right at all to condemn them or anyone else....Clean up your own back yard! Matthew 7:3-5

You should know what is written in Revelation 11: verses 3 and 6. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand?

 

[Oseas]

Not the last

Yes, it will be. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand?

The Beast of Rome will be taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the Beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both will be cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant will be slain with the Sword of him that sat upon the horse, which Sword proceeded out of his mouth. Revelation 19:20-21.

Get ready

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

You should know what is written in Revelation 11: verses 3 and 6. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand?

Actually I do know of that prpphesy....What does that have to do with you speaking hate toward other people?

So I will repeat....NOBODY ever gave you the right to judge anybody! YOU are in direct violation of the Word....The Catholics are people just like you, and many many of them are born again...You have no right at all to condemn them or anyone else....Clean up your own back yard! Matthew 7:3-5

I suggest you do not sound like a Christian.....Your words are full of anger and hate....John 13:35

 

[Bill]

What gives you the idea that Gen 1:2 is the BEGINNING of creation??

Maybe i am being a smart butt , but it does say "in the beginning " somewhere.

But then we could be a little philosophical and contemplate " which beginning " i have to believe we were always in God's mind, along with the Angels.

So the beginning of "US" or the beginning of the cosmos.

 

[Bill]

Actually I do know of that prpphesy....What does that have to do with you speaking hate toward other people?

So I will repeat....NOBODY ever gave you the right to judge anybody! YOU are in direct violation of the Word....The Catholics are people just like you, and many many of them are born again...You have no right at all to condemn them or anyone else....Clean up your own back yard! Matthew 7:3-5

"The Beast of Rome will be taken, and with him the false prophet "

Lol, unfortunately, i have to give him this one. Lol

I am only laughing, because Oseas doesn't know that he stumbled onto 1 thing.

I would liken Oseas's stumbling to the false prophet who says every day, "today is the end of the world". And when it does come, he can brag to all around, "see i was right". Lol

So, it is a fact, that a Pope will become the false prophet for the antichrist. As far as the antichrist goes. I am not certain whether he will claim the throne in Rome or not.

I am a Catholic, and will always stand with the true catholic church.

Everyone should understand, all Christians are under attack. And this will remain in effect until the end of the antchrist's reign.

Now, even though we are under attack, it is also our greatest moment, to become beacons, pillars of faith.

How much i would love to see everyone filled with the Holy Spirit, unafraid. And you Will get there, just not yet.

The Great Day of the Lord is coming. There is nothing now to hold it back. I know many are excited for it, thinking "rapture". And many have been praying for it to come. Ya believe it or not. Lol they will not like it when it comes.

Many Christians set themselves above there brothers and sisters. The Great Day will bring you down. For a few, the Great Day will be a beautiful moment with God.

There is no Rapture, it is a lie, a false teaching.

Once the Rapture has been exposed as being a false teaching, many Christians who have been firm most of their lives will fall to the One World Church. The reason for this is because they have replaced their faith in God with their belief and faith in the rapture.

Maybe I better stop I could go on all night telling of what is to come

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Maybe i am being a smart butt , but it does say "in the beginning " somewhere.

But then we could be a little philosophical and contemplate " which beginning " i have to believe we were always in God's mind, along with the Angels.

So the beginning of "US" or the beginning of the cosmos.

LOL Yeah It does Bill, but read that verse again....It says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth...Have you ever seen God create something incomplete? No...Have you ever seen God create something in kit form? No....It says God created the heavens and the Earth.....Job complete. Finished.....Then the Hebrew words in vs 2 Tohu va Bohu....And the Earth became without form and void.....God created the Earth and something happened that destroyed the Earth....I know I know Here it comes.....what they call 'Old Earth theory. But what can one do when people don't want to believe what's written? Its controversial

 

[Bill]

LOL Yeah It does Bill, but read that verse again....It says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth...Have you ever seen God create something incomplete? No...Have you ever seen God create something in kit form? No....It says God created the heavens and the Earth.....Job complete. Finished.....Then the Hebrew words in vs 2 Tohu va Bohu....And the Earth became without form and void.....God created the Earth and something happened that destroyed the Earth....I know I know Here it comes.....what they call 'Old Earth theory. But what can one do when people don't want to believe what's written? Its controversial

Yes but technically, having us in His heart could be different.

Lol you are more than likely right though. Now that the Spirit is speaking to me. 'As the Scripture is both physical and spiritual at the same time, so too all came into being as one'

This was what the Holy Spirit said

 

[Bill]

LOL Yeah It does Bill, but read that verse again....It says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth...Have you ever seen God create something incomplete? No...Have you ever seen God create something in kit form? No....It says God created the heavens and the Earth.....Job complete. Finished.....Then the Hebrew words in vs 2 Tohu va Bohu....And the Earth became without form and void.....God created the Earth and something happened that destroyed the Earth....I know I know Here it comes.....what they call 'Old Earth theory. But what can one do when people don't want to believe what's written? Its controversial

They only want to believe what fits them. And then call themselves Christians. Lol

When Jesus says " be holy for I am holy" or " follow me" . The furthest thing from thier mind is, to suffer on the cross with Jesus.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

What gives you the idea that Gen 1:2 is the BEGINNING of creation??

What gives you the idea that it's not? Gen 1-5, FIRST day, all counted as the beginning. If you dig in and do some research, a more accurate translation of 1:1 would be: "WHEN AT THE BEGINNING God created heaven and earth," that sets the tone for Day 1.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Maybe i am being a smart butt , but it does say "in the beginning " somewhere.

But then we could be a little philosophical and contemplate " which beginning " i have to believe we were always in God's mind, along with the Angels.

So the beginning of "US" or the beginning of the cosmos.

The beginning of the "Cosmos" is Gen 1:1 The earth is already there, but barren in verse 2

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

LOL Yeah It does Bill, but read that verse again....It says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth...Have you ever seen God create something incomplete?

Yes, it took SIX days to complete the process, and the seventh day marked the completion of His creation. He could've created the whole universe in one second by flipping a button, but He did take six days to do it and rested on the seventh. That wasn't because He needed to, but He purposefully scheduled it in six days, which established a pattern for us to follow.

 

[Oseas]

Actually I do know of that prpphesy....What does that have to do with you speaking hate toward other people?

So I will repeat....NOBODY ever gave you the right to judge anybody! YOU are in direct violation of the Word....The Catholics are people just like you, and many many of them are born again...You have no right at all to condemn them or anyone else....Clean up your own back yard! Matthew 7:3-5

I suggest you do not sound like a Christian.....Your words are full of anger and hate....John 13:35

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? Or despise you the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of GOD leades you to repentance? But after your hardness and impenitent heart treasure up unto thyself wrath against the Day of wrath(i.e. the seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day, or seventh and last millennium, understand?-2Peter 3:8) and revelation of the righteous Judgment of GOD, Who will render to every man according to his deeds. Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that does evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile, for there is no respect of persons with GOD.
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the Day , the LORD'S Day - THE SEVENTH AND LAST DAY OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM - shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by FIRE; and the FIRE shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

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[Admon Mikha'el]

"The Beast of Rome will be taken, and with him the false prophet "

Lol, unfortunately, i have to give him this one. Lol

I am only laughing, because Oseas doesn't know that he stumbled onto 1 thing.

I would liken Oseas's stumbling to the false prophet who says every day, "today is the end of the world". And when it does come, he can brag to all around, "see i was right". Lol

So, it is a fact, that a Pope will become the false prophet for the antichrist. As far as the antichrist goes. I am not certain whether he will claim the throne in Rome or not.

I am a Catholic, and will always stand with the true catholic church.

Everyone should understand, all Christians are under attack. And this will remain in effect until the end of the antchrist's reign.

Now, even though we are under attack, it is also our greatest moment, to become beacons, pillars of faith.

How much i would love to see everyone filled with the Holy Spirit, unafraid. And you Will get there, just not yet.

The Great Day of the Lord is coming. There is nothing now to hold it back. I know many are excited for it, thinking "rapture". And many have been praying for it to come. Ya believe it or not. Lol they will not like it when it comes.

Many Christians set themselves above there brothers and sisters. The Great Day will bring you down. For a few, the Great Day will be a beautiful moment with God.

There is no Rapture, it is a lie, a false teaching.

Once the Rapture has been exposed as being a false teaching, many Christians who have been firm most of their lives will fall to the One World Church. The reason for this is because they have replaced their faith in God with their belief and faith in the rapture.

Maybe I better stop I could go on all night telling of what is to come

,

What gives you the idea that it's not? Gen 1-5, FIRST day, all counted as the beginning. If you dig in and do some research, a more accurate translation of 1:1 would be: "WHEN AT THE BEGINNING God created heaven and earth," that sets the tone for Day 1.

I don't know where you would get that idea...except from a fertile imagination?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand? Or despise you the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of GOD leades you to repentance? But after your hardness and impenitent heart treasure up unto thyself wrath against the Day of wrath(i.e. the seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day, or seventh and last millennium, understand?-2Peter 3:8) and revelation of the righteous Judgment of GOD, Who will render to every man according to his deeds. Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that does evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile, for there is no respect of persons with GOD.
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the Day , the LORD'S Day - THE SEVENTH AND LAST DAY OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM - shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by FIRE; and the FIRE shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

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Hmmmmm Ok You're making judgements you have no business making, and you use scripture that does not back you up. Personally I think we have no basis for any kind of intelligent conversation. Have a nice day.

 

[Bill]

Yes, it took SIX days to complete the process, and the seventh day marked the completion of His creation. He could've created the whole universe in one second by flipping a button, but He did take six days to do it and rested on the seventh. That wasn't because He needed to, but He purposefully scheduled it in six days, which established a pattern for us to follow.

Six days.

Let us think about what is written. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the Earth was a formless void, there was Darkness over the deep, and God's spirit hovered over the water.

I know that God could create all in 6 seconds if He wanted to. But for a God that likes to drag things out to the last minute, nearly every time. I just do not see it. Scripture states, God is patient. He is an Eternal being. I can not see Him wanting to hurry anything. It is why i believe the earth is billions of years old.

Honestly, what is a billion years to God who created time in the first place

 

[Bill]

,

I don't know where you would get that idea...except from a fertile imagination?

Th ere are a number of Catholic prophets, many well before Luther ever came along. The spoke of the anti christ and his false prophet

 

[Bill]

Hmmmmm Ok You're making judgements you have no business making, and you use scripture that does not back you up. Personally I think we have no basis for any kind of intelligent conversation. Have a nice day.

He is filled with hate. And that comes from you know who.

We need to pray for him