God the Mother.

[Winemiller]

Genesis 1:26-27
Let us make man in our image, in our likeness.... In the image of God he created them, male and female he created them.

So who is the "our"? the word Elohim (or Gods) is recorded over 2500 times in the original Hebrew bible.

Rev 22:17 "The Spirit and the bride say come..."

Who is the bride according to the wedding of the Lamb?

New Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven...

The identity of Jerusalem?

Galatians 4:26

"For the Jerusalem that is above (in Heaven) is free, and she is our mother."

It is very clear. These things are Written in the Bible.

Not my knowledge, but taught through the World Missions Society Church of God.

 

[Chad]

Why did you title this God the Mother? There is no mother GOD. Father, Son, Holy Spirit only. The Scripture you reference from Genesis is obviously the Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Matthew 28:19

 

[Travis]

Wow, learned something new today.

World Mission Society Church of God - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Second coming of Christ
The Church believes that Jesus was to come a second time in the flesh. They believe that Ahn Sahng-hong is the Second Coming Jesus who came with a new name (Revelation 3:11–12; Revelation 2:17) and state that he fulfilled biblical prophecies that only Jesus could have fulfilled.[8]

God the Mother
As the Bible testifies in Revelation 22:17, "The Spirit and the bride," so the WMSCOG believes that according to the Bible the bride is God the Mother. According to Genesis 1:26–27, "US, OUR," there are two Gods, a male image of God and a female image of God. They call the female image of God, “God the Mother”. They teach that in the last days God the Mother has to appear on earth in the flesh. The WMSCOG believes that God the Mother is the source of salvation.[9]​

Sounds a wee bit cultish to me. Just sayin,

Travis

 

[Chad]

Yep, another cult. False doctrine. Some people love to draw to the doctrines that cater to their lifestyle instead of surrendering to GOD in truth.

Romans 2:8

 

[B-A-C]

The "Church of God" is also a Unity theology (no trinity). I am speaking of the denomination, not the Biblical body of Christ.

 

[kvnchrist]

Sounds a wee bit cultish to me. Just sayin,

Travis

Try being born and raised as a Jehovah's Witness. I still have parts of their doctrine bouncing around it my skull.

 

[RJ]

Genesis 1:26-27
Let us make man in our image, in our likeness.... In the image of God he created them, male and female he created them.

So who is the "our"? the word Elohim (or Gods) is recorded over 2500 times in the original Hebrew bible.
This is a Talk Jesus forum...not a anti-Jesus foreum. What you have done is "Blaspheme Of The Holy Spirit" and not welcomed!

Rev 22:17 "The Spirit and the bride say come..."

Who is the bride according to the wedding of the Lamb?

New Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven...

The identity of Jerusalem?

Galatians 4:26

"For the Jerusalem that is above (in Heaven) is free, and she is our mother."

It is very clear. These things are Written in the Bible.

Not my knowledge, but taught through the World Missions Society Church of God.

This is not an Anti-Jesus forum!

 

[kvnchrist]

This is not an Anti-Jesus forum!

Amen to that.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 2:18

Just a little more information to add to what Travis has already written

The world Mission Society Church of God is indeed a cult that perverts the word of God.
Founded by a Korean man called Ahn Sahng-hong

When he died he left his cult to a woman called Zahng Gil-Jah this is who they refer to as the 'heavenly mother' 'God the Mother' and 'The New Jerusalem Mother'

In their literature they quote:

Therefore Ahnsahnghong is Christ who came in this age according to all the prophecy of the Bible. He restored the truth of the Passover, the tree of life, and saved us from our sin and death. He is our God.

They promote this blasphemy and have over a million deceived members

@Winemiller - please look to the Bible the only true word of God......
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:32

 

[Winemiller]

This is not anti Jesus.

This is taught by the one and only man who fulfilled the prophecies in the Bible. Through the parable of the fig tree, the throne and root of David, and the angel from the east, having the seal of the living God (and many others.)

This man brought back the passover (the seal of the living God) and reestablished the Holy sabbath day.

There is no denying his identity, however find out for yourself.

John 5:39

These are the very scriptures which testify about God/the Christ. Only the man who fulfills these things can be called the Christ, as Jesus did.

The reason WMSCOG is called a cult, is because it was prophesied.

Ecc 1:9 and 3:15

Acts 24:5

"We have found this man to be a troublemaker, stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the Nazarene sect (cult, NLT)

 

[Chad]

Stop spreading heresy. Last warning.

 

[Winemiller]

Stop spreading heresy. Last warning.

Have you any proof of heresy? Please explain to me why God said "let us make man in our image, in our likeness.... in the image of God he created them. Male and what? Male and female he created them.

The earth is a copy and shadow of the things in heaven, in order to be seen and show Gods glory. We have a physical Father, do we not also have a physical mother?

God said we are his sons and daughters. Why would he make the distinction of Father? Why would he need to do this? Is there any family of fish, birds, animals, or humans that do not have a mother? God is almighty. He could have made life come from man. But who did he create? Eve. In the image of God. Why did god make it this way?

Please know I am not speaking against God. I am speaking only through the bible and through the things on earth, which are a copy and shadow of heaven.

If you place an image of a man and a woman in a copy machine, what do you get? If you receive a copy of an image of a man and woman from a copy machine, what was the original?

 

[Chad]

No you are not speaking from the bible because no where does it say that God is a mother. You were provided enough scripture in this thread. Read the Holy Bible, nothing else. Don't fabricate the truth or manipulate scripture. There's severe consequences for lying and false teaching.

 

[Winemiller]

I understand your position, however please note that no man can interpret the bible by his own means, no matter how hard he tries.

Isaiah 29:12

For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll. And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say, "Read this, please," they will answer, "I can't; it is sealed."
Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, "Read this, please," they will answer, "I don't know how to read."

Revelation 5.

Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. (Seven represents divinity, perfection.)
And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, "Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?"
But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it.
I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside.
Then one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals."
Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne......
He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne.
And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb....
And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals......

The scroll is the Bible. Period. There is no other scroll that needs mentioning.

The only being that exists that is able to unseal the Bible is God himself. The bible clearly testifies that no man, theologian, minister, pastor, or religious leader, on earth, in heaven, or even dead can interpret the Bible. Only the root of David, the lamb who had been slain, the one and only Christ and God.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Have you any proof of heresy? Please explain to me why God said "let us make man in our image, in our likeness.... in the image of God he created them. Male and what? Male and female he created them.

First I have to say is hello Winemiller Only with the Love of Christ do I write this.I apologize ahead of time if I'm a bit wordy. Count yourself blessed that I have to work tomorrow! If I didn't have to work tomorrow, I'd still be writing!!!!!!!!! LOL

The study of scripture takes years and even the well versed will be the first to tell you that they don't know it all. A reason for this might be that a "constant", in determining scriptural truth, is that one must attempt to keep "text, context, and greater context" in mind when attempting to classify something as "truth". The concept of "Mother god" we can agree is a concept that is only viewed favorable in the most extremes circles of Christianity. Many would say that these extreme circles have more in common with cults than Christianity. Part of me wanted to exclude this, but in the couple of years of being here at TJ, and reading the different postings from others, I wanted you to know for a surety that the concept you've introduced is seen as being such, so is given little lenience.

Now to the subject at hand..........

First you need to quote exactly what is written in Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Okay now that we see what is there. What do we notice that separates "....image of God created he him; male and female created he them."? It's called a semicolon. You can check, but all the English versions I checked have the semicolon thus placed. Now the purpose for the semicolon is that it joins closely related subjects. Closely related yet still not exactly the same. This would ask one why the need to separate it thus if the implication was that both were created and both created in His image?

Side note 1: Just noticed this as I was about to post You can take a look at the first part of the sentence to the comma and then up to the semi-colon. Even though separated by a comma up to the semi-colon they are saying the same thing. Not so after the semi-colon. A definite separation.

This becomes clearer when you look at Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. What we see here is that the purpose originally was not to create Eve for the purposes of pro-creation. This is important since you attempt to link the creation of the animal world and humanity. Eve was created to help Adam, not to achieve a semblance to the God Head which you suggest in your postings.

Also, you need to keep in mind that the two references we've looked at Genesis 1:27 & 2:18 are not chronological. Meaning that in the order of things; Genesis 2:18 occurred before 1:27.

Side note 2: You should try to read a Chronological Bible!!!! It increases your knowledge on when events occurred in relation to other events, but an easy smooth read it is not! Your mind keeps warring with what you've previously read in the normally printed bible.

The earth is a copy and shadow of the things in heaven, in order to be seen and show Gods glory. We have a physical Father, do we not also have a physical mother?

The answer to your question is no. Remember in my opening when I talked about "text, context, and greater context"? The verse I believe you are making reference to is Hebrews 8:5 Read the chapter which should provide context to what is being talked about in regards to "...shadow of heavenly things....." One needs to understand that it is easy to pull a verse out of context, to justify whatever position one chooses to take. Not that I'm saying this about you, for only you can answer if you came about this concept from self study or were led there by other teachers/teachings.

Side note 3: The above really happens! You can even find references to a discourse on the subject of the "Prosperity Gospel" Basically, if you're not rich, you must be doing something wrong!!!! Yikes!! Doesn't pay to be poor in their books.......

Since the God Head is the topic. Let's look at Psalm 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. What do you make of the God Head now?? Is God a bird? Is He a chicken maybe? See what I'm saying when a verse is taken out of context to other associated verses? One can easily be led astray from God's truth, if, we don't study, which helps to show ourselves approved, and pray to be protected against deception.

I cannot just let the above verse stand without showing the truth from a source that has the most intimate knowledge of the God Head since He is part of it! He is the Word become flesh (Read John Chapter 1 for more); John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Hope the above words have not come out harshly, or received with anything but the love of Christ Jesus. I hope you agree that challenging everything against the entirety of Scripture is necessary. With prayer, study, and Holy Spirit revelation; I believe one can see and understand the truth contained in the Bible.

In closing. I pray that all that I may do or communicate is edifying to the Body of Christ and to the Glory of God. In the name of Jesus Christ I pray. Amen.

C4E

 

[mercy777]

Greetings brother,

Have you any proof of heresy? Please explain to me why God said "let us make man in our image, in our likeness.... in the image of God he created them. Male and what? Male and female he created them.

First God created HIM [man/Adam] in his image, then he created THEM [male and female]. Genesis 2:18 as the above post has pointed out Also note 1 Corinthians 11

1 Corinthians 11
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. 10 For this reason the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, neither is man independent of woman, nor woman independent of man, in the Lord. 12 For as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but all things are from God..

Peace~

 

[Winemiller]

I appreciate your concerns brother! However you cannot convince me that WMSCOG is a cult.

Romans 1:20

For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse

Fathers, sons, daughters, and only one family member is missing. The mother. Eve was named the "mother of all the living" therefore testifying even more about god the mother. Also, i have yet to be explained to why the bible says "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness"! Until I hear an answer, my words stand.

Who is god speaking to?

Also who are the Spirit and the bride? Who give the water of life? Can't only good give the water of life?

Also, the word " Elohim" is used over 2500 times in the original Bible. This word is the plural of God.

The wedding of the Lamb. We've known who the lamb is. Why did God usethis parable? Do you know who the last person to be seen at a physical wedding is?

Last question, can any living creature that God has made receive life without it's mother?

 

[Chad]

Last question, can any living creature that God has made receive life without it's mother?

You're relentless in your pursuit to persuade people here that GOD is a mother. You reject the teachings, you manipulate Scripture. Your time is up here. Enough has been said from you.

 

[Travis]

I appreciate your concerns brother! However you cannot convince me that WMSCOG is a cult.

Hey Winemiller,

I've seen a lot of cults from a distance and experienced some cult like stuff first hand. One of, if not 'the', biggest hindrances to people leaving cults I have seen is the issue of pride. It's so hard to admit that I was/am just absolutely dead wrong about something I thought I was so right about. I've seen people just train wreck themselves and their lives all because they could not just admit to themselves and others that they were wrong, when deep down, they knew they were.

I can't speak for all Christians, but I can speak for myself, and I know how Jesus acts: If you decide to forsake these strange teaching and accept the teachings of Christ as they have been passed down for almost 2000 years, I will accept you with open arms and not hold your past against you.

There is hope for you and so many others, don't let something as silly as pride prevent you from accepting the truth. Jesus is abundantly patient, kind, and forgiving.

Blessings,

Travis