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SignUp Now!Never let your emotions get the best of you, no matter how things look and appear to you.Pray for this world.
Never let your emotions get the best of you, no matter how things look and appear to you.
You said: "pray for this WORLD"
JESUS said to His Father and they are always in agreement:
New King James Version (John 17:9)
“I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
Are you in agreement with JESUS. do you want us to follow you or to follow JESUS. as LORD.! you are a 'Minister" of The church of GOD now what say you?
We are listening.
sick
Listen to how the enemy will deceive many.
I've heard some post that this is good not bad
because it will lower the numbers of women being sexually assaulted,
it will lower the number of people being kidnapped for human trafficking,
it will lower the number of unwanted pregnancies, and sexually transmitted diseases.
And some Christians will be say, you can't get a demon from a robot whereas you could
if you slept with another person.
And since the world support masturbation (Masturbation _ My Experiences, Scripture, and Concerns) they will see
this as ok, they will see it just as a higher form of masturbation.
So to the Christians who were slightly deceived into supporting masturbation, this is where it leads,
and if they can't say that masturbation is wrong, then it will be harder for them to say that this is wrong.
However we are not deceived because we are not looking for safer alternatives to sin, but to God's good WILL.
This is indeed sick, you are right.
You are also a student of "Context" too. And you are fully aware that "The Gospel According to St. JOHN the APOSTLE" which is no way like the "Synoptics". And we know why his approach is such. So let is stay there for a while on that theme.Interesting point to consider.
In that specific moment, yes he was praying for his own, but would you say that Jesus never prayed for those who were not
yet in the body who soon will be?
"Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field.”
Matthew 9:36-37
Who are those who will be harvested? Are they believers or nonbelievers? And if they are believers why would they need to be harvested?
And why isn't Jesus saying the same pray that you quoted at this time?
Well, context is key, different situations call for different prayers. (Read the Psalms and you will see it clearly).
I don't think you are saying that just because Jesus prayed a certain prayer on one occasion that is applies to all situations, are you?
Nor would you be saying that just because Jesus answered questions or healed people on certain occasions that he did it every time.
For example, there were times when he refused to answer questions and times when he did not heal because of unbelief,
so context is key.
Different situations call for different prayers, I think you are aware of that, so hopefully no debate there.
In one situation Jesus told them to put away the sword and another to get a sword, so let us look at the context
and see if it applies to this scenario in which I'm talking about in terms of seeking to expand the Kingdom of God.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, although we differ at times,You are also a student of "Context" too. And you are fully aware that "The Gospel According to St. JOHN the APOSTLE" which is no way like the "Synoptics". And we know why his approach is such. So let is stay there for a while on that theme.
This is The great falling away from The Truth which is lead by the institutionalize churches who refuse to be called "The People of THE WAY" or The "SAINTS of GOD" nor do they want to be called "The Children of GOD". Neither do they want "The KING of KINGS" to rule, But they have presented themselve as a "RULER QUEEN" and cast The KING Away as if He has went on a Long trip and have delayed His Coming.
The Institutional church has become the Ruling Queen once again and have set up "LORDSHIP" and have cast Jesus aside And have "Created" their own Personal JESUS Christ as" lord". small caps. And this also has been "PROCLAIM" and this has been "Declared" by GOD as His JUDGMENT upon The people and This Whole WORLD. For Judgment will begin at the house of "GOD".
Women teaching and preaching and women leading men n the church and the world is The judgment of GOD. The different genders leading in the church, "Is the Judgment of GOD" Storms of this world and uncharted pestilence, and homes breaking up, and unscrupulous leaders, if anyone "who Knows" their " untainted "Translated Bibles" for The Church has taken full lead in this matter of "Polluting" which began in "1604' and again in the Mid 1980's. And since then has grown at a great rate in further "contaminating" the translated text with little authoritative opposition.
And this is by the leadership of The Institutionalize churches we have created a host of "IDOLS" throughout the whole world these "idols" sits on "THE 7 CONTINENTS"
and these "IDOLS" are and consider themselves "THE VICAR of CHRIST" The Institutionalize church has declared Herself as "THE RULING QUEEN" and have cast The Words of JESUS aside And have replace His Words with Her words. "For This too is The JUDGMENT GOD" and "The LION have come up Out of The Thicket" and He will not go back!
Geneva Bible of 1587
I pray for them: I pray not for the worlde, but for them which thou hast giuen me: for they are thine.
Bishops' Bible of 1568
I pray for them: I pray not for the worlde, but for them which thou hast geuen me, for they are thyne.
Coverdale Bible of 1535
I praye for them, and praye not for the worlde, but for them whom thou hast geuen me, for they are thine.
Tyndale Bible of 1526
I praye for them and praye not for the worlde: but for the which thou hast geve me for they are thyne.
New King James Version
“I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
New American Standard Bible
I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but on the behalf of those whom You have given Me, because they are Yours;
But the world will and love to pray for one another! "by their fruits you will know them" "we cannot serve two Master" If God is GOD choose Him if the Church is GOD then chose Her" You cannot serve "BOTH"
I say if GOD prayed to His Father and prayed this prayer saying these words:
Geneva Bible of 1587 (John 17)
"I pray for them: I pray not for the worlde, but for them which thou hast giuen me: for they are thine."
And "GOD" Jesus said these words also to The Prophet "Jeremiah"
(Jeremiah 11:14)ASV
NASB 1977
“Therefore do not pray for this people, nor lift up a cry or prayer for them; for I will not listen when they call to Me because of their disaster.
And GOD Jesus told "JEREMIAH" again here:
(Jeremiah 7;16)
NASB 1977
“As for you, do not pray for this people, and do not lift up cry or prayer for them, and do not intercede with Me; for I do not hear you.
and he told him again on another occasion:
Drought, Famine, Sword, Pestilence (Jeremiah 14)BSB
"This is what the LORD says about this people: “Truly they love to wander; they have not restrained their feet. So the LORD does not accept them; He will now remember their guilt and call their sins to account.” Then the LORD said to me, “Do not prayfor the well-being of this people. Although they may fast, I will not listen to their cry; although they may offer burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them. Instead, I will finish them off by sword and famine and plague.”…"
For Jesus is GOD in the Flesh. But many have refuse to HONOR HIM as GOD and have Establish their own god and have given that god the name Jesus. For many will come saying I am Jesus in order to deceive other to make them think that the JESUS that they are preaching is JESUS.
"for many will come saying i am JESUS" and will deceive many. They say they preach Jesus, but they preach themselves to be honor and to be praise of men in the name of JESUS.
And to be sure i am understood. in the "Calvinistic" way i am sound in The bible in believing The Doctrine of "PREDESTINATION"
I am not in tune with the "Arminianism" neither am I into the "PELAGIANISM"
For i am full blooded as "AUGUSTINIAN" concerning predestination. For God chose by His own decree who will be saved and who will go to hell before the foundations of the World. And we are called to call out That the ELECT would Hear HIS voice For GOD The Father will bring the Elect to CHRIST. for they are the "GOOD" Seed that was planted on the earth. and all others where planted by a enemy and they always will be weeds and it is impossible for the weeds to come to "CHRIST" to be saved.
For we was the saved before the world was created and "CHOSEN" to enter into "ETERNAL LIFE" to be shape into the Imagine of His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON for this is "THE WAY" it has to be done by GOD The FATHER. and this the only reason GOD created THE WORLD. To shape the FEW into The Image of HIS Only begotten SON. And we will Be "THE MANIFESTATION of THE GLORY of GOD the FATHER" and will be MANIFESTED throughout "ETERNITY" For we are "THE GLORY OF GOD" and all creation is waiting for our "MANIFESTATION" and that number is set. When the last one of us has been completed and GOD The Father has set that number of His "CREATED" "Adopted Sons" has been Born.
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Like i said, to you once before. "Jesus_is_LORD" whatever you say or preach concerning the word of GOD, stand your ground and do not be move. No matter what "ploughboy" or any other, be it "Angels", demons, devils, minsters, pastors, bible teachers, make your stand on The Rock, and let the wind blow and no matter who comes from Heaven. If you speak, may sure you are on The ROCK, If you are not standing on The ROCK, keep your mouth close. And you never speak how you feel. You Speak "TRUTH". Because if you are not on "The ROCK" you are going to be found "FALSE". that is why the bible says, put on the whole Armor. and when you stand, you stand, and let no one blow you away. Be like that Tree that stands by the rivers of waters and you cannot be move.
You always is going to be "tried". in order to be sound and solid as a "ROCK" for stones need not to apply.
Do you not know, we shall Judge the World and ANGELS Don't you know you are in training. This World is only "Boot Camp" for us. And one day soon this training camp will no more be needed. And THE FATHER will Erase it all away. and it will not be remember no more.
I will say it again I am not your enemy. And i do know i can hit hard. And i do know you can get back up.
Note: Jesus is also the "GOD" of the Old Testament. For Jesus is more than the term "GOD IS LOVE" He is more, for HE is "GOD" and many have no idea what the word mean, is more than and way beyond the word love. for The Father is angry every day with the wicked. and His wrath is burning HOT.
For many who Loves this World , they will get a chance to stay here and to manifest that love and preach about that love of The Father when some of us will be "TAKEN AWAY". And they will have 7 years to preach and talk about that love. For many will get their chance to express their love for the people of this world by staying here and preaching The Gospel. "By your fruits you will know them" by their love.
"what greater love can a man have, but by dying for his friends." present your bodies a living sacrifice.
But me, i am going to try make it out on the first Ship. I am trying to be a SLAVE of JESUS, and I have recognizes as "LORD & MASTER" and he is my example. And it is not a name. LORD, Master, It means he has SLAVES! My goal i make no decisions on my own, and all of my wants is what he wants. The LORD is MY Shepherd and "I SHALL NOT WANT" for he gives me for what i need.
From many christians think that a "ROBOT" toy thought , is more vile than The Sunday School teacher "Mrs Smith" who is sleeping with "DEACON Moore" who is Married to to Sister Sally and they have 3 kids. And Mrs. Smith husband is out of town a lot working and is the top giver in "Needmore Baptist Church" and supply's much to over seas Missionaries. And the respond when the affair has come in to full view. And the solution is church counseling. Know that is "Sick" once you have polluted in such matter , full fellowship can never be repaired. forgiveness is possible but the damage have been done. The Marriage bed has been defile. And the women has done a great injustice that never can be repaired. And the response of the church, what about the man. AND That is Sick. as if no one has read "PROVERBS"
I am going to stick with The Word.
'And now Men does right and think what is right in his own mind'
"let us work out our own SALVATION" to each his own. one person walks according to what he believes and the other walks according to what he believes.
There are over 2.6 Billion christians in the world and everyone got their own personal belief about GOD and JESUS. And got their own kind of Bible they like. they have their own verse they like and when they read the Bible, they read the verses they like. And they are like a rock and they are not coming off that verse. they will die holding that verse. "I believe in JESUS" and they are not going to be move.
I cannot blame them you better hold on to something.
Sorry for the 15 minute read.
I am long winded, like my mothers was , me and her could talked about God and Jesus from morning to Midnight. and wonder where did the time go. And we would be laughing and the tears would fall from our eyes. up until the day she died as i look her in the face and watch her ease the last breath out of her mouth.
sorry about the grammar. for editors are to expensive these days.
Now days you must have a "spelling editor", sentence editor, a compact editor, and a grammar editor. and they aren't cheap,