has Jesus revealed the anti christ?

[johnny botwrigh]

intresting short clip. ?

YouTube - Did Jesus Reveal The Name Of The Anti Christ


this is also another intresting plot.
The Prince who is to come...
http://pillar-of-enoch.com/essays/Princ ... o-Come.pdf

 

[Boanerges]

Barrack is a baby killing, old people hating devil alright but I think you are giving him to much credit.:shock::shade:

Btw, the second link would not open for me.

 

[johnny botwrigh]

second posting

you can find it at

[link removed: no permission requested per forum rules]

in the forum predictions and prophecys

under the same heading , has Jesus revealed the anti christ.

its in one of the replys on the first page, its intresting, worth a look.


johnny

 

[Chad]

Removed your link.

Let's make it clear what the Bible says [to dispute that 12/12/12 date 'prophecy']

Matthew 24:35-37

<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-23990">35</sup>Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown

<sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-23991">36</sup>"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,<sup class="footnote" value="[<a href=&quot;#fen-NIV-23991a&quot; title=&quot;See footnote a&quot;>a</a>]">[a]</sup> but only the Father. <sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-23992">37</sup>As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

 

[johnny botwrigh]

intresting reply

Re: has Jesus revealed the anti christ?

by veteran on Tue May 11, 2010 2:18 am
Our Lord Jesus HAS already revealed 'the' "antichrist" that John said was to come. He also revealed who the "many antichrists" are. It's all in His Word from Genesis 1 to the end of Revelation 22. So far, none here have revealed who it will be.

The early Church was just in looking and watching for the coming of 'the' antichrist, but they were not in the end of days like we are today. So all they could relate the prophecy to was a pattern God's Word shows about the antichrist.

However, our Lord Jesus in Matt.24 ALSO revealed the idea of patterns, or types, or shadows, that point to the final antichrist He was intending. When our Lord warned of a pseudo Christ (pseudochristos), and linked the "abomination of desolation" event from Daniel with that false one, He obviously assumed we already knew about a previous pattern Antiochus served in that role back in 170 B.C.

In the OT prophets, our Lord made comparisons of Pharoah, the king of Assyria, king of Tyrus, and the king of Babylon directly to Satan himself. The lesson in that was to show the working of the role of false king reigning over the kingdoms of this world instead of our Lord Jesus as THE RIGHTFUL KING. That is the actual meaning of the word "antichrist", for it links to how Satan first rebelled against God by coveting His Throne and wanting to be THE KING in place of Christ Jesus.

What that pattern or type lesson is supposed to teach us today, is to look back in history for that role, those who fulfilled that pattern, while also expecting a final fulfillment of it with the ultimate fake king doing it in the end of days. So if Satan began the original pattern, and OT pagan kings of history served as types, then who might be expected to fufill its final type just prior to Christ's return? Yet another flesh man in the role of king of kings over all the kingdoms of the earth? No, because that would be just a continuing of the types what Israel in OT times saw, and what the early Church was given to see in their days.

That's why 'the' antichrist role, the final one, is not about just another flesh man in that role as false king of the earth. The ultimate pattern, the original blueprint, the first prototype, was Satan. And so will he fulfill the last one. This is why the coming tribulation on earth is written to be a time of trouble the likes that has never before occurred upon the earth. It is also why many will be deceived and fall away in its snare.

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[johnny botwrigh]

The anti christ, and the return of Jesus and the new

well if im reading vetrens reply correctly, its still a detective story, following the clues, joining the dots,]process of elimination, speculating.
but what i think his post implys, some one who will over shadow, every one who has been, type, O.T Kings, your neros, hitler, popes ect i can not see any of the present contenders, ruling from Israel, maybe ruled from Israel?
obama? charles, ect

the ullitimate deception, ruler, king, leader. bigger than anything before or ever will be.

almost out of this world, i will throw this in, and see where it leads.

]reptilican/alien,demonic deception,?angel of light? maybe some thing like the ancient myths where we are tolled the earth was visited

bringing fire down from heaven ect?

some say this thing in geneva, is really about opening a port hole? star gate?
]http://www.abovetopsecret.com

lets say U F O s landed we come in peace, how in awe would the world be,
bringing a new culture, religion, belief, a leader. war of the worlds?
just thinking out of the box, satan in his pride, will want something spectacular, for his grand finale? the master of deception!

when Jesus returns in great power and glory, the world will see his return,
those that remain are caught up in the air,
beam me up?
again will this return, spectical be by way of U F Os?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />
The new Jerusalem, that comes down from heaven,

said to be 1500 miles square, a mother ship?

some believe it to be a cube,

some children in an orphanage in china, were caught up into heaven, and returned

they said looking down on our solar system, was like looking down on a city at night.

intrestingly they said, the city, the new Jerusalem was not a cube, but a pyramid?

1500 miles square at the base, 1500 miles high.

johnny

as for the site December 21 2012, The official Website for 122112 Information official website the forum

prediction and prophecy forum religion forum ect

though a non christain site, people are asking a lot of questions, about scripture, the rapture, Gods exit plan, worm wood, end time events, salvation,
how what Jesus says, differs from other teachings, its been good.
making people think, challanging veiws, shining light into darkness.
making others aware, there is a bigger picture,

 

[johnny botwrigh]

an out standing leader?

johnnybotwright7,

Are you watching V? I am pretty amazed at that show. It seems to be produced by someone who might have a conservative/christian world view. The aliens (nephelim of OT times) come disguised as humans. Not only that but attractive humans. Their leader being the most attractive of all. But, beneath their skins they are reptilian. The strategies for world domination are demonic. They are trying to vaccinate the human population. The vaccine has hidden stuff in it that tracks them. Ring any bells? Anyways, I think their leader is a good model for how I see Satan's coming. Attractive, smart, powerful. People will want to follow him.

As for seeing the programe V no i have not seen it, ive heard of it.
I once saw a V this was over 30 years ago, we were fishing at a lake, we heard a high pitch noice, sound, the dogs nearby started barking.
for a brief moment there was, what appeared to be five discs, in a V formation. then nothing
i was listing to bbc radio 2 last night, just after 9 oclock, chris evans was interveiwing one of the band members of the grogs,
who happened to mention, thy had seen some thing, and even got a film crew out, while waiting, it was pouring down with rain, so the film crew stayed in the van,
then this object appeared, below the clouds and went from horizon to horizon, in seconds, with no sound.
it effecting things in the local village, one farmer his answer machine started playing messages,
his clock stoped at 12 minuets past 12 the 12 of the 12 ?
johnny

johnnybotwright7,

I saw 3 disc in the sky when I was a kid. The ones I saw looked like the full moon though perfectly flat shaded grey. They were bigger than the moon would appear in the sky. There were three of them and they were stationary. They were in the same general local as you'd expect to see the moon.

Maverick163,

The evidence suggest that they are already here though not revealed publicly. They have communicated what they believe through channeling (probably direct communication to some). They don't believe in the God of the Bible. I think they refer to Jesus as an ascended master or something of that sort. I'm guessing when they fully choose to reveal themselves this will initiate the great falling away:

2 Thessalonians 2:8-11 (New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians%202:8-11&version=NIV
Quote:
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
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[stephen]

Hi Johnny

Much of what you say is thought provoking. Such is good for all following Jesus......and revelation in the final days of grace.

Some while since I was involved in such study but 'the man of sin' will surely be Jewish/Muslim.... able bring peace to the 'Middle East'... prior to overthrow by the 'Coming Prince' of the prophet Daniel

 

[johnny botwrigh]

reptilcans and aliens/demon & demon possesion?

posted at www.prophecytalk.com discussion anti Christ forum



i saw a movie recently (the fourth kind). It is supposed to be based on a true story and many portrayed in the movie, either attest to its voracity, or refused to be interviewed for fear of having their credibility questioned in their professions.These are doctors and professors.It is about alien abduction and what i found particularly compelling is the end, when the victim is put under hypnosis, the entity manifests itself, and after levitating the woman and breaking bones causing her to be paraplegic afterward, refers to itself as "god".The movie is a combination of acting and actual recorded sessions of hypnosis with the different "abductees" being documented in the movie.This left NO question in my mind as to the identity of "aliens" being the "nephilim" spoken of in the Bible.Agape,paulGrace + Truth = AGAPE

 

[Tea4me]

I read a story about the movie on CNN. They are stating the movie is a fake. They also stated the FBI did an investigation into the disappearences...frigid temps and alcohol were the cause of death in most cases. At least this is what CNN is reporting.

Didn't Almighty God kill out the nephilim in the flood?

 

[johnny botwrigh]

demons and fallen angels?

there is a discusion in the anti christ forum, Prophecy Talk - Bible Prophecy, 2012, the Rapture and the Mark of the Beast

who is lucifer? the discussion asks are demons fallen angels, or are demons different from fallen angels.

trace put forward that demons were the spirits, offspring, from relationships between fallen angels and women?


demon possesion abduction one of the same thing, ?

both can take different forms dose not have to be any one thing,
a world leader could be demon possesed,

as can a man sleeping on the streets. and anyone in between.

johnny

 

[johnny botwrigh]

anti christ forces. UFOs

i will again throw this in and see if it goes anywhere.
I had a dream recently, we were in an upper part of a farm house, wooden beams, some thing we were carrying had a chip, so we relized those hunting for us, knew where we were.
we had to leave at once as we did, men appeared as i went to make my exit, i thought its to late, they are already here, they appeared on the slopes either side of the house,
but it turned out they were resistent fighters, hunted like our selves, we made it known our location was known, we had to move, i went out of the back of the house, along part of a tunnel, this other youth joined himself with me, i wanted to make my own way, but he insisted in staying with me, i knew the terrain, and where i was heading, while making my escape, i entered a field with some horses in,
the spirit within me enabled me to be able to leap quite a distance, land and leap again,
ships that looked like ufos came into view, one landing quite near to us, me and this lad went to ground, only a small group left the craft, one was being wheeled in a chair, his head going from side to side, he had the ability to scan, i was hoping our form because there were to of us, would be harder to detect, but this was not the case, we had been scaned, discovered and were caught, being led into the craft, again resistance fighters appeared, throwing bags containing explosives down shafts,
we made our way through the craft, that inside was not much different to a ship, cafe, restraunt,
people working, we were free again, made our way to some buildings, looked like a collage,
a girl asked about the craft that had landed, we made out things were ok, knowing hers and others fate was about to change, we made our way past a group of students coming our way, looking away not making eye contact, so not to be revealed later.
those who were hunting us were human in form, not alien, or reptican, it was more along the lines of the chronicals of riddick, yes they were human, but some thing for them had been changed, as was the fate of those they caught.
by these forces of the anti christ.
we made our way into a wooded area, country side.
johnny

 

[johnny botwrigh]

appollyon rising

this was a reply December 21 2012, The official Website for 122112 Information

the officail website, forums prophecys and prediction

the post has Jesus reveiled the anti christ.

concerning the link to the apollyon rising 2012 that was removed here, and because i posted it here for people to see,

im threatened with being banned?

you can also find the link at Prophecy Talk - Bible Prophecy, 2012, the Rapture and the Mark of the Beast

in the anti christ forum or end time discussion forum , its well worth a look.

this was the reply.

This was the most amazing video I've ever seen. Thank you for posting the vid.



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1. The European Union 666 and Javier Solana
DO you think its possible javier solana...can be a major candidate, now that he is out of the picture in EU Google


johnny

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Here is where the Antichrist is revealed
2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 (King James Version)


<sup class="versenum" id="en-KJV-29668">6</sup>And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
<sup class="versenum" id="en-KJV-29669">7</sup>For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
<sup class="versenum" id="en-KJV-29670">8</sup>And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:


When the church is taken out the Antichrist is revealed. The church is what is holding back the Antichrist right now. Holding back the devil himself from running wild in the Earth.

 

[hadoz]

Christians may not be allowed to recognize the ac

Personally I don't expect the final version of the anti-christ to be recognized by true saved christians and definitely not by the rest of the world. What I get from scripture is that he will appear to be basically an angel of light. He will seem good and helpful, fixing all the problems of the world. I suspect he will come under the guise of being either a Jew or a Christian. We won't recognize Him for what he is because maybe we'll be swept off our feet by the wonderful words he'll use as he solves the conflict in the middle east among other things.
Everything about him will seem upright and good. I also suspect that in his own mind he will believe his actions are good for humanity but from a humanistic perspective. He will try to solve the conflict between religions as well as nations. Someone will try to kill him and when that doesn't succeed Satan will take him over. He will be a spectacular example of a human being, almost perfect. Only he won't truly accept the lordship of Christ of course, but that won't matter to the world.
Just be careful. The Bible says that even the elect could be deceived if God didn't shorten the days of the end times. In any event he will be the leader the world has been waiting for, one that seems to have the potential to fix all the problems we've been dealing with in this world.
My personal view is that this won't happen until we have a platform for him to stand on, that being the one-world government, religion and economy. Yes these things are coming to be in our lifetime. Only thing is, this is all so close to becoming a reality in the very near future that I believe that the ac is among us right now, not that he knows that that's what he is or anything. I could of course be totally wrong though. It doesn't really matter. We need to focus on what Jesus told us to focus on, loving our neighbors as ourselves and God with all of our hearts, soul and strength. The more people who come to know Jesus as their personal Lord and savior the fewer who will fall prey to the anti-christ/satan. Leave the rest up to God and His devine plan. Just my humble two-cents.

 

[ReenieK]

The fourth kind

Saw the movie...broke the dvd after and threw it in the trash. Whether it's true or fake I couldn't say, I only know that it's not good to develop too deep an interest in the occult, demonic, extra-terrestrials, etc. because it gets our eyes off of OUR wonderful "extra-terrestrial" Savior. He told us to learn of HIM, and not to learn the ways of the heathen in the lands to which He would take us...he also said in Jeremiah 29:29 that He revealed to us what He wanted us to know, and as for the rest of it (paraphrase) mind your own business, if I wanted you to know I'd tell you.

I am speaking as one who has a family history on my mom's side of occult involvement, which thank God was broken in my mother's life and I was delivered of it as well, but the devil always started us out with "curiosity" then fascination, and it just gets deeper and deeper into your soul. It's entertaining to our fallen flesh to feel creeped out and get goosebumps, but remember, "there's a free meal in every mousetrap."

 

[Kit Carson]

I have never seen a UFO.

Why would God need any mechanical vehicle to travel in ? He holds all in his hands, and the order of the universe is managed by him.

People chase UFO's , the Bigfoot, and make many mysteries.

All I know is God does not need these things, and most likely gets quite a grin out of it.

I put milk and cookies on the front porch once, I wanted to see an alien.

They never did show up.

No God does not need any mechanical vehicle to travel in.

Kit