Hebrew - Eight Genders?

[Rhema]

( I hadn't noticed any subforum on Language, so I do hope this thread fits here.)

I've just run across this article:

The Eight Genders in the Talmud | My Jewish Learning

Thought nonbinary gender was a modern concept? Think again. The ancient Jewish understanding of gender was far more nuanced than ...

www.myjewishlearning.com

And I'm not sure if I'm being gaslit, because this was certainly not covered in seminary, although truth be told, I did my best to stay away from Semitic Languages as much as possible since Hebrew hurts my head, and my focus was on Jesus and New Testament Greek.

I also note that the terms in this article are not written in Hebrew, although I did find this - androgynos (אַנְדְּרוֹגִינוֹס), even though the English has a Greek base root ἀνδρόγυνος.

In that the article does reference the Talmud, rather than the Tanakh, I should be surprised since I am aware of some pretty weird stuff in the Talmud.

Comments?

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[KingJ]

Your title says Hebrew and your OP is about eight genders in the Talmud, this posted in the 'bible discussion forum'' .

There is a water cooler area to discuss things like this Water Cooler.

I know that it is driving many Jews crazy. They say the Talmud mentions eight sexual deformities as opposed to eight separate genders.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

Your title says Hebrew and your OP is about eight genders in the Talmud

This has been edited to reflect the content of the OP, to some degree.
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They say the Talmud mentions eight sexual deformities

Can you elaborate please?

(Note to all:
This could be an opportunity to dwell together in harmony to help readers learn something, to the glory of God.
Certainly better than another thread dishonoring God through disputing with vilification, either literal or behind closed doors)


Bless you ....><>

 

[B-A-C]

about eight genders in the Talmud,

The Talmud wasn't accepted by Jesus. It wasn't God's law. It was mostly mans traditions, ( with a little law mixed in )

Mat_15:2 "Why do Your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread."
Mat_15:3 And He answered and said to them, "Why do you yourselves transgress the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition?
Mat_15:6 he is not to honor his father or his mother.' And by this you invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition.
Mar_7:5 The Pharisees and the scribes *asked Him, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with impure hands?"
Mar_7:8 "Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men."
Mar_7:9 He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.
Mar_7:13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that."

 

[KingJ]

Can you elaborate please?

The alphabet people are saying the Talmud and bible to a degree teach that there was a single person before Adam and Eve. ''He created 'them' (the first person) male and female''. A person that had both sexes, he / she was then split in two to bring forth Adam and Eve. Then a while later another six different genders.

Many who teach from the Talmud are slamming this, saying it mentions sexual deformities. Not genders. Then, not sure how many Christians misread ''He created 'them' male and female''

''Them'' can be someone's preferred pronoun.

 

[Rhema]

This has been edited to reflect the content of the OP, to some degree.

Thank you Bear,

I had found only one corresponding Hebrew word, and was wondering if anyone might know what the others might be.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

The Talmud wasn't accepted by Jesus.

In that the Talmud hadn't been written until after Jesus' ascension, it would have been somewhat difficult for him to accept it.

Rhema

Or even comment on it for that matter....

 

[Rhema]

Many who teach from the Talmud are slamming this

And whom might these many be?

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

Thank you for you helpful input, Brother.

When I read this bit:

It was mostly mans traditions, ( with a little law mixed in )

my thoughts went to modern (and not so modern) churches/denominations.
Do you think that is stretching things a bit too much?


Bless you ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]

@B-A-C

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In that the Talmud hadn't been written until after Jesus' ascension, it would have been somewhat difficult for him to accept it.

Rhema

Or even comment on it for that matter....

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[Br. Bear]

@KingJ

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And whom might these many be?

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[KingJ]

@KingJ

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Sorry, not going to get baited into further discussion on a silly topic.

You can both simply Google it. This thread belongs in a news section.

 

[Br. Bear]

Sorry, not going to get baited into further discussion on a silly topic.

You can both simply Google it. This thread belongs in a news section.

OK


Bless you ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

( I hadn't noticed any subforum on Language, so I do hope this thread fits here.)

I've just run across this article:

The Eight Genders in the Talmud | My Jewish Learning

Thought nonbinary gender was a modern concept? Think again. The ancient Jewish understanding of gender was far more nuanced than ...

www.myjewishlearning.com

And I'm not sure if I'm being gaslit, because this was certainly not covered in seminary, although truth be told, I did my best to stay away from Semitic Languages as much as possible since Hebrew hurts my head, and my focus was on Jesus and New Testament Greek.

I also note that the terms in this article are not written in Hebrew, although I did find this - androgynos (אַנְדְּרוֹגִינוֹס), even though the English has a Greek base root ἀνδρόγυνος.

In that the article does reference the Talmud, rather than the Tanakh, I should be surprised since I am aware of some pretty weird stuff in the Talmud.

Comments?

Thanks,
Rhema

The article you provided is rather vague and appear written specifically to make allowance for and attempt to diplomatically accommodate the recent trend to validate people making choices regarding gender.

It is far from a scholarly piece and is more of a hype for those who have little or no knowledge of the traditional writings if the Jewish people.

The writings are not dissimilar to all other cultures where a firm of philosophical reasoning was proposed by those who either were assigned to do so or merely were that way inclined.

From being children up, there are questions and thoughts and considerations about many things. That appears to be normal.

One who believes in the LORD can honestly say, "when I consider the works if Thy hands..."


Bless you ....><>

 

[B-A-C]

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Some Jews would disagree with those dates, but even so. If they were written after New Testament times, all the more reason
to believe they weren't approved by Jesus or the apostles.

Talmud Vs Torah Differences: (8 Important Things To Know)

The Talmud and the Torah are mistakenly used interchangeably by non-Jewish people. These are two of the most important words in all of Jewish history. Though they are both religious manuscripts, they are two totally different things. What is the Torah? Torah is the Hebrew word for “instruction.”...

biblereasons.com

 

[Rhema]

Sorry, not going to get baited into further discussion on a silly topic.

Then you shouldn't be making up your "many teachers".

 

[Rhema]

Some Jews would disagree with those dates,

What Jews?

You could have just said you were mistaken.

even so. If they were written after New Testament times, all the more reason
to believe they weren't approved by Jesus or the apostles.

One could say the same thing about your posts.

(And all of our posts for that matter, if it weren't for rhema.)

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Comments?

The article you provided is rather vague and appear written specifically to make allowance for and attempt to diplomatically accommodate the recent trend to validate people making choices regarding gender.

I appreciate the comments. While I had not spent a great deal of time, I was (as shown) able to track down one of the specific Hebrew words claimed to be found in the Talmud.

I was just wondering if any here had recollection of such Talmudic teaching.

Thank you,
Rhema
(I liked the old dark mode better..)

(Luke 5:39 KJV).... for he saith, The old is better.