His own did not receive Him

[B-A-C]

I don't know if there is another chapter in the Bible as doctrinally important as John 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God....
But that's not the part of John 1 that I want to discuss here. Let us move down to verses 10 through 12 here.

John 1:10; He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
John 1:11; He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him.
John 1:12; But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

This chapter of John starts off letting us know who Jesus is. He created everything, all of creation came into being through Jesus.
He was God before creation was ever created. But when it was created, Jesus became a human man, at least for a while.
He came down and dwelt among us. Among His creation. God with us. Emanuel.

But it says in verse 10 here, that even though he made the world, the world did not know Him. ( the people of the world ).
It says here, that He came to His creation, His own people that He Himself made.... and they did not receive Him.

The word "receive" here is interesting.

paralambanō
par-al-am-ban'-o
From G3844 and G2983; to receive near, that is, associate with oneself (in any familiar or intimate act or relation); by analogy to assume an office; figuratively to learn: - receive, take (unto, with).
Total KJV occurrences: 50

This is contrasted with the next verse.

lambanō
lam-ban'-o
A prolonged form of a primary verb, which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses; to take (in very many applications, literally and figuratively [probably objective or active, to get hold of; whereas G1209 is rather subjective or passive, to have offered to one; while G138 is more violent, to seize or remove]): - accept, + be amazed, assay, attain, bring, X when I call, catch, come on (X unto), + forget, have, hold, obtain, receive (X after), take (away, up).
Total KJV occurrences: 263

Notice the word "lambano" is in one verse, and the word "paralambano" is in the other verse. One word starts with "para". The other does not. One group did NOT receive Him.
But there is another group that will receive Him. If anyone receives Him, they have the right to be called Sons of God.

When He came to His own, they didn't even acknowledge Him. They wouldn't even greet Him. The thought here is, they wouldn't even say Hello to Him.
But anyone else. Anyone at all. Who "receives" Him. Who takes hold of Him, who acknowledges Him. Who believes in Him. Those people have the right to be called the sons of God.
You have to make a choice. You have to accept Him. You have to a hold on Him. It is your choice.

He wanted His own people to accept Him. But they did not. You still can. You have to receive Him.

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

But anyone else. Anyone at all. Who "receives" Him. Who takes hold of Him, who acknowledges Him. Who believes in Him. Those people have the right to be called the sons of God.

How do you know this is true?

 

[Br. Bear]

How do you know this is true?

John 1:12; But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

Power...
To become.

Who can give authority that one may use the name and status with authority?

Who can change a man?


Bless you ....><>

 

[Bill Taylor]

How do you know this is true?

You must pray, asking Yahova to show you the Renewed Covenant is part of His Holy Word and when He gives you the insight of a Rabbi, do not blow it off, as is the habit of the the world.

 

[watertolive]

How do you know this is true?

Greetings in the Lord
A spiritual manifestation took place in this wretched flesh and I am reborn a new creation, in Him, by Him, for Him.
It takes consistency to get there.
It takes sacrifice; letting go of your worldly treasures, and how you once did things.

If thine eye (heart) be single, the whole body is full of light.

How bad do you want it?
It's our choice.

God first, always.

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

Greetings in the Lord
A spiritual manifestation took place in this wretched flesh and I am reborn a new creation, in Him, by Him, for Him.
It takes consistency to get there.
It takes sacrifice; letting go of your worldly treasures, and how you once did things.

If thine eye (heart) be single, the whole body is full of light.

How bad do you want it?
It's our choice.

God first, always.

I cannot resist, please for give me, why is it you still sell your time for money?

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

You must pray, asking Yahova to show you the Renewed Covenant is part of His Holy Word and when He gives you the insight of a Rabbi, do not blow it off, as is the habit of the the word.

Please forgive me, but I think you have a mind of confusion.

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

Greetings,

Power...
To become.

Who can give authority that one may use the name and status with authority?

Who can change a man?


Bless you ....><>

Please forgive me but I have to ask, are you an expert at anything other than committing sin?

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

Please forgive me but I have to ask, are you an expert at anything other than committing sin?

Why do you ask for forgiveness from me?

May I ask, also, why you didn't answer my questions?


Bless you ....><>

 

[watertolive]

I cannot resist, please for give me, why is it you still sell your time for money?

Greetings
Sell my time for money...? elaborate please do, I'm getting money I don't know about?
Where did this come from? the devil.
Your response carries absolutely no weight to what I posted.

All praise glory and honor be unto God

 

[watertolive]

How do you know this is true?

Greetings
because I asked Him to come into my heart, set up camp, pitch a tent, and build a fire; and He did.

He stands at the door and knocks, waiting patiently for self to open their heart and receive Him in. And yes, I received Him.

The heart of a little child, moves God; a child always looking up, humble, knowing nothing, but seeking the One that knows all, sees all, hears all.

It does not matter that you can not believe; I do.
The hypocrites in the synagogues of the Jews didn't believe either; you know, those that said they believed.

Wait, perhaps you do believe, and still waiting for Messiah to come.

Yes, praise God for it. Amen

 

[Br. Bear]

@B-A-C
Greetings,

When He came to His own, they didn't even acknowledge Him. They wouldn't even greet Him. The thought here is, they wouldn't even say Hello to Him.
But anyone else. Anyone at all. Who "receives" Him. Who takes hold of Him, who acknowledges Him. Who believes in Him. Those people have the right to be called the sons of God.

When He came to His own... They denied Him.
If therefore they reject Him, the invitation was given that any who would come would by accepted as children.
The children of Israel were God's children.
As they would not as much acknowledge Him, He gave the right of becoming and being, the liberty to be children of God.

Then the master said to the servant, ‘Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
Luke 14:23

Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
Matthew 22:9


Bless you ....><>

 

[Christ4Ever]

I don't know if there is another chapter in the Bible as doctrinally important as John 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God....
But that's not the part of John 1 that I want to discuss here. Let us move down to verses 10 through 12 here.

John 1:10; He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
John 1:11; He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him.
John 1:12; But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

This chapter of John starts off letting us know who Jesus is. He created everything, all of creation came into being through Jesus.
He was God before creation was ever created. But when it was created, Jesus became a human man, at least for a while.
He came down and dwelt among us. Among His creation. God with us. Emanuel.

But it says in verse 10 here, that even though he made the world, the world did not know Him. ( the people of the world ).
It says here, that He came to His creation, His own people that He Himself made.... and they did not receive Him.

The word "receive" here is interesting.

paralambanō
par-al-am-ban'-o
From G3844 and G2983; to receive near, that is, associate with oneself (in any familiar or intimate act or relation); by analogy to assume an office; figuratively to learn: - receive, take (unto, with).
Total KJV occurrences: 50

This is contrasted with the next verse.

lambanō
lam-ban'-o
A prolonged form of a primary verb, which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses; to take (in very many applications, literally and figuratively [probably objective or active, to get hold of; whereas G1209 is rather subjective or passive, to have offered to one; while G138 is more violent, to seize or remove]): - accept, + be amazed, assay, attain, bring, X when I call, catch, come on (X unto), + forget, have, hold, obtain, receive (X after), take (away, up).
Total KJV occurrences: 263

Notice the word "lambano" is in one verse, and the word "paralambano" is in the other verse. One word starts with "para". The other does not. One group did NOT receive Him.
But there is another group that will receive Him. If anyone receives Him, they have the right to be called Sons of God.

When He came to His own, they didn't even acknowledge Him. They wouldn't even greet Him. The thought here is, they wouldn't even say Hello to Him.
But anyone else. Anyone at all. Who "receives" Him. Who takes hold of Him, who acknowledges Him. Who believes in Him. Those people have the right to be called the sons of God.
You have to make a choice. You have to accept Him. You have to a hold on Him. It is your choice.

He wanted His own people to accept Him. But they did not. You still can. You have to receive Him.

@B-A-C
Greetings,



When He came to His own... They denied Him.
If therefore they reject Him, the invitation was given that any who would come would by accepted as children.
The children of Israel were God's children.
As they would not as much acknowledge Him, He gave the right of becoming and being, the liberty to be children of God.

Then the master said to the servant, ‘Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
Luke 14:23

Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
Matthew 22:9


Bless you ....><>

Dear Brothers,
Thank-you for this. So, true. Do not forget that it was necessary for the Nation of Israel to reject him. Of course this does not mean that none believed, for they did. However, they thought more of the Temple standing, which in many ways is like today with those who look to the Churches' approval over God's and His Word to them.

But although He had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him, 38 that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke: "Lord, who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?" 39 Therefore they could not believe, because Isaiah said again: 40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, Lest they should see with [their] eyes, Lest they should understand with [their] hearts and turn, So that I should heal them." 41 These things Isaiah said when he saw His glory and spoke of Him. 42 Nevertheless even among the rulers many believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they did not confess [Him], lest they should be put out of the synagogue; 43 for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God. 44 Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me, believes not in Me but in Him who sent Me. 45 "And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me. 46 "I have come [as] a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness. 47 "And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48 "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him--the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. 49 "For I have not spoken on My own [authority]; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. 50 "And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak." John 12:27-50 NKJV

Paul wrote concerning this very thing in Romans 11. A chapter that goes hand in hand with the rejection of Jesus by the Jews. Knowing that this was necessary and providential for the Gentiles that it would be so. For without their rejection of Jesus, I wonder if it would have been necessary then for us to become Jewish!!! If so, how many of Paul's letters would have been necessary? I do not even want to contemplate Circumcision for the older folks!!! Yikes not a pleasant thought!

Anyway, my thoughts on this subject. Thankfully God's Grace is available to all! Alleluia!!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[Curtis]

Of course the “right” or the “power” God gives to a person who receives him (meaning his Word) is “faith”. Faith is the power that can cause a person to become a child of God.

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

Spoiler: click to expand conversation

Greetings,



Why do you ask for forgiveness from me?

May I ask, also, why you didn't answer my questions?


Bless you ....><>

In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found:
but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.
~ The Book of Proverbs

Faith is the power that can cause a person to become a child of God.

God's faith, but not your faith.

Greetings,

Please forgive me but I have to ask, are you an expert at anything other than committing sin?

In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found:
but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.
~ The Book of Proverbs

Thank you.

You are obviously better than me.
However, that doesn't take much.

Do you mind please answering, why did you ask me to forgive you?
I know that we all need to forgive but what is it you ask forgiveness for?
I note that you also asked other members to forgive you. What for?


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,





Thank you.

You are obviously better than me.
However, that doesn't take much.

God's expectations of me, exceeds His expatiations of you.
Neither one of us is at fault.

Do you mind please answering, why did you ask me to forgive you?
I know that we all need to forgive but what is it you ask forgiveness for?
I note that you also asked other members to forgive you. What for?

Expand your horizon and figure it out.

Greetings,

Expand your horizon and figure it out.

No, please explain.


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,

God's expectations of me, exceeds His expatiations of you.
Neither one of us is at fault.

Thank you for your reply.

However, I am not all that smart, so can you help me?

In what way would or does God expatiate?



Bless you ....><>

In what way would or does God expatiate?

For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required

No, please explain.

My explanation is beyond your horizon therefore it is to you to expand it, not me.

Greetings,

For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required

Yes, indeed, as it is written.

However, I still ask in what way would or does God expatiate?


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,



Yes, indeed, as it is written.

However, I still ask in what way would or does God expatiate?


Bless you ....><>

I already told you.

Greetings,

My explanation is beyond your horizon therefore it is to you to expand it, not me.

That sounds like an avoidance from you? Perhaps you do not have an explanation that you would be humble enough to share?

I can understand if that is the case.


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,

I already told you.

No you actually did not. Read slowly the (your) words... it might help?

Bless you ....><>

Greetings,



That sounds like an avoidance from you? Perhaps you do not have an explanation that you would be humble enough to share?

I can understand if that is the case.


Bless you ....><>

Please for give me if I do not live up to your expatiations of me.

Greetings,



No you actually did not. Read slowly the words... it might help?

Bless you ....><>

Thank you for your advice. I will pass on it and disagree with you.

Greetings,

expatiations

Expatiations?

I was unaware that one could expatiate another?


Are you sure you have the right word that you are trying to convey?


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,


Expatiations?

I was unaware that one could expatiate another?


Are you sure you have the right word that you are trying to convey?


Bless you ....><>

Didn't you say to me that I was smarter than you?

Greetings,

Thank you for your advice. I will pass on it and disagree with you.

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
but a wise man listens to advice.
Proverbs 12:15

Greetings,



The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
but a wise man listens to advice.
Proverbs 12:15

That is why I do not listen to the advise of a fool that is wise in his own eyes.

Greetings,

Didn't you say to me that I was smarter than you?

No, I did not.
Perhaps read again.
Slow down before you slip.


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,

That is why I do not listen to the advise of a fool that is wise in his own eyes.

OK.

Could you please tell me what expatiate means?

Perhaps you are saying that God has spoken and/or written at length of me?


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,



No, I did not.
Perhaps read again.
Slow down before you slip.


Bless you ....><>

"However, I am not all that smart, so can you help me?"

Please forgive me for taking you, asking me to help you, because you are not all that smart,
as you indicating to me, that I am smarter than you.

Could you please tell me what expatiate means?

Perhaps you are saying that God has spoken and/or written at length of me?

And the reason you are asking me this is?

Greetings,

And the reason you are asking me this is?

Thank you for asking.

You posted,

"God's expectations of me, exceeds His expatiations of you."

Therefore, I was interested about how God's expectations of you exceed His talking and/or writing of me and how that works.


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,

"However, I am not all that smart, so can you help me?"

Please forgive me for taking you, asking me to help you, because you are not all that smart,
as you indicating to me, that I am smarter than you.

Thank you for explaining your understanding of what I posted to you.

May I ask what you mean about taking me?


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,



Thank you for explaining your understanding of what I posted to you.


Bless you ....><>

It has been my good pleasure. But I must warn you. I lean not to my own understanding.
So I would take it with a grain of salt.

It has been my good pleasure. But I must warn you. I lean not to my own understanding.
So I would take it with a grain of salt.

They tell me that salt is bad for the heart, but I thank you for your time.


Bless you ....><>

They tell me that salt is bad for the heart, but I thank you for your time.


Bless you ....><>

Salt is good, to pour in the wounds of your adversaries.

Greetings,

Salt is good, to pour in the wounds of your adversaries.

If you are that way inclined.

Given that Jesus said, you are (the) salt , one needs pour themselves in the wounds if their adversaries.

Is that correct?


Bless you ....><>

Greetings,



If you are that way inclined.

Given that Jesus said, you are (the) salt , one needs pour themselves in the wounds if their adversaries.

Is that correct?


Bless you ....><>

Jesus is correct.

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

Dear Brothers,
Thank-you for this. So, true. Do not forget that it was necessary for the Nation of Israel to reject him. Of course this does not mean that none believed, for they did. However, they thought more of the Temple standing, which in many ways is like today with those who look to the Churches' approval over God's and His Word to them.

But although He had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him, 38 that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke: "Lord, who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?" 39 Therefore they could not believe, because Isaiah said again: 40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, Lest they should see with [their] eyes, Lest they should understand with [their] hearts and turn, So that I should heal them." 41 These things Isaiah said when he saw His glory and spoke of Him. 42 Nevertheless even among the rulers many believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they did not confess [Him], lest they should be put out of the synagogue; 43 for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God. 44 Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me, believes not in Me but in Him who sent Me. 45 "And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me. 46 "I have come [as] a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness. 47 "And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48 "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him--the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. 49 "For I have not spoken on My own [authority]; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. 50 "And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak." John 12:27-50 NKJV

Paul wrote concerning this very thing in Romans 11. A chapter that goes hand in hand with the rejection of Jesus by the Jews. Knowing that this was necessary and providential for the Gentiles that it would be so. For without their rejection of Jesus, I wonder if it would have been necessary then for us to become Jewish!!! If so, how many of Paul's letters would have been necessary? I do not even want to contemplate Circumcision for the older folks!!! Yikes not a pleasant thought!

Anyway, my thoughts on this subject. Thankfully God's Grace is available to all! Alleluia!!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

I say it was the other way around. I say it was Jesus who rejected His own.

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

Greetings
because I asked Him to come into my heart, set up camp, pitch a tent, and build a fire; and He did.

Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ;
and shall deceive many. ~ Jesus Christ

 

[Curtis]

I say it was the other way around. I say it was Jesus who rejected His own.

Rom 11:1 I ask, then, has God rejected his own people, the nation of Israel? Of course not! I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham and a member of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 No, God has not rejected his own people, whom he chose from the very beginning. Do you realize what the Scriptures say about this? Elijah the prophet complained to God about the people of Israel and said,