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Hoping Someone Can Help Me With These Lifelong Struggles

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It's hard to know where to begin, but I'll start at the beginning, I guess.

I was born in 1960 to parents who were 10 years apart in age, and both grew up in Minnesota, but whose childhoods were very different. My father grew up poor on a farm. He had four brothers and one sister, and their Dad had TB, so was in and out of the TB sanitarium, and unable to work for much of the time. His Mother had a hard life raising the six kids out in the boonies by herself most of the time. My Mother grew up on a farm, but her parents had a bar/tavern which provided a lot of entertainment and excitement in my Mother's life. She was accustomed to a lot of people being around, and a lot of good times. She also had a father who would go out drinking, and then come home and beat up on his wife. So the kids lived a life of fear, and trying to protect their Mother from their Father. My Mother also felt her dad never wanted her. I believe my Mother has had undiagnosed ADHD for her entire life, along with depression and a lot of anger. She has always been somewhat childlike, and very disorganized. I have always felt that I was more the Mother to her than the other way around.

Growing up and going to school was difficult for me. I was born with a condition called Coloboma in which the eye does not form normally before birth. Back when I was born the doctors had no idea what was wrong, and thought that I would never be able to cross the street by myself. My Dad spent the rest of his life thinking he was somehow to blame for my problem since the doctor told him he shouldn't have any more children. In reality, although this can be an inherited condition, we will never know what caused it. Actually, I am lucky; my vision could be a lot worse than it is. I am legally blind in one eye, but have normal vision in the other. For whatever reason the vision in my good eye cannot be corrected to 20/20, but I am able to drive and do pretty much everything anyone else can do. I have always been very grateful for that. However, due to the lack of vision in my right eye, it has always turned in. For whatever reason I have never been able to accept it, and just live my life. I was never able to talk with either of my parents about it, which I'm sure didn't help. I always knew it would upset my Dad too much if he ever knew it bothered me, and my Mother was so wrapped up in her own unhappiness that she really didn't have much to give me. The few times I mentioned it to her she just said that I should be grateful for what I had, and that "so and so over there had whatever problem, and they sure didn't let it bother them". I was an only child until I was 10, and didn't have any other positive role models in my life to tell me I was okay. Along with my eye problem I always felt responsible for my Mother's happiness. Her and my Dad did not get along very well, being so different, and with her being like she was. She blamed him for everything, and when they would fight he would take off and leave me to comfort her. I always felt very inadequate to do that, and I always felt guilty because she wanted me to somehow change him for her. She always complained that she didn't have more kids, and wanted me to talk him into having more. She always talked with me about things I had no business knowing about or worrying about as a child. She always said there was nobody else she could talk to, and that my Dad would just kill her if she did. I guess my Dad never even realized what was going on or just felt helpless to do anything about it. I always knew I was loved by my parents, but my Dad was not able to show affection, and my Mother needed me even more than I needed her.

Sorry this is so long, but I feel like I have to go into my parents and my background in order for you to possibly understand.

So once I realized I was different, and kids in school started teasing me, I tried to avoid looking at people for the rest of my life. I am very sensitive, and I just couldn't deal with comments and questions and rejection. I also had to wear thick glasses which I tried to hide behind my hair. My Mother used to tell me to get the hair out of my eyes, but she never realized why I had it that way, I did have a few friends growing up, but as I got older there were less and less. I was depressed and spent a lot of time in my room listening to music and reading. Again, my parents never noticed. Eventually, in my 40s, I finally had surgery to straighten my eye. It was a success, but in my mind nothing had changed. I was as afraid as ever to look at people. Since then the eye is not always straight, and I never really know when that is - usually when I'm tired or stressed, I'm sure. Of course that is most of the time.

Eventually I married a man I never should have married, but I was so lonely, and he wanted me. Turned out he was mentally ill, and after a few years I ended up leaving the marriage in an ambulance and staying at a shelter home. I thought I could never trust anyone again, but along came my current husband who I have been married to for 23 years. We have three wonderful sons, and I don't think I've been too bad of a parent, but of course the way I feel about myself does cause problems. I have had trouble with disciplining my boys, so their Father has had to do it all. I am also very sensitive to what my husband says. I take a lot of things the wrong way, and I get hurt very easily. I think he is criticizing me when he isn't, and see everything in a black and white way. When that happens, I end up over and over in this terrible dark place in my mind where it's all my fault and I am worthless.

I grew up in the church, and have prayed for my entire life. As a child I ended up feeling that God just didn't care, and that I was a disappointment to Him. I believe now that he does care, and I now I have come a long way, but it is SO HARD to keep waiting on Him to finally heal me from these things that keep me from being who I want to be.

I don't really expect that anyone can help me, but I truly appreciate any opinions, suggestions, etc. I am so tired of living like this!

L
 
Wow, what a testimony!
It's hard to formulate what to say to such a life you have had so far, no wonder you really don't expect anyone to help.
I can only offer spiritual help / suggestions and will be willing to do my best. From your story , you may very well need some help for physical, mental and sociological needs. You probably need some educated / professional help, so work with family and friends to get that done, even if you think you don't need any of that.

Spiritually, you say you have come a long way and that is so important but you need to go all the way and I will try to explain that in a bit!
Since you obviously believe that God exists, you may not understand all this, but let's start with some truth:
  • God is perfect, God is not capable of making mistakes and He made you! And he love you!
  • Jesus and God are one in the same
  • Jesus said that we all will have our trials and tribulations and we all do. The problem is that some, as yourself, have more than their share. Is it fare? Nope! Can I explain it? Nope! I will say this, God does not cause your problems but he sure knows you having them, allows them, and is interested in how you react to them.
  • Before I became a "Born Again" Christian I knew of God; now, I know God. We need to inure that you truly know God and there is only one and sure way for this to happen. Once we get you to this point, you are own your way to healing.
I am no professional Clergy and I would suggest you ask around for someone near you that is good at spiritual counseling. Aside from that, I love God / Jesus and love his word which is the answer to all problems. So, you have questions and I am here to help if you want. If you don't want to do this on this open forum, you are welcome to send me a private message with your questions and concerns. Going all the way is having God in you. God is just a heartbeat away!
 
Well, as I said, I've spent a lifetime going to church, so I do know those things. I have had a lot of trouble truly trusting God over the years, since as child I came to believe that he just didn't care. I had a lot of anger toward him. bit I think I'm pretty much over that at this point. Recently he has helped me lose close to 50 pounds, which I was never able to do by myself. I just don't understand why he refuses to help me with the way I feel about myself.
 
If you mean have I asked him to be my savior and all that, Yes! So many times! Actually my church teaches that we are saved at our baptism, but I've done it anyway.
 
What makes you think he refuses you and how did he help you loose weight?
What makes you think he refuses you and how did he help you loose weight?

Because I've been begging and pleading with him for my entire life, and I still feel mostly the same about myself as I always did.

I am a compulsive over eater, and was never able to stop. I was always asking God for help with it, but the truth was that I didn't really want to stop. I was afraid. Well, I finally got to a point where I asked him to help me, and I meant it.
 
If you mean have I asked him to be my savior and all that, Yes! So many times! Actually my church teaches that we are saved at our baptism, but I've done it anyway
Fine, that is the most important hurdle, now you need to know what you have in him.
Do you have faith?
Where does faith come from?
 
Fine, that is the most important hurdle, now you need to know what you have in him.
Do you have faith?
Where does faith come from?
What about your faith?
 
Well, I certainly don't don't have as much faith as I would like to have. I've always admired other people's faith. It has been so hard to have faith in the midst of so much pain. His helping me with the eating has increased my faith, but I know I need to trust Him more and get to know Him so much better.
 
If you think no one will be able to help you, no one will, not even God. I had a hard younger life as well. A father who tried to kill me and my brother, a stepfather who didnt know how to love, me being the subject of 90% of all the arguments my mother and stepfather had, my mother having a nervous breakdown when I was 16 due to the stress she had over her constant arguments with my stepfather, my mother being so lonely she wanted a more intimate relationship with me, being bullied at school because I was always nervous, and frightened of others. I knew their cruel ways well, like wolves seeing an injured animal and smiling. I got to read people well just like prey learned to avoid the predators. It really helped me in life. I used to have horrible dreams that often left me constantly tired and even more fearful. I had some church when I was younger but due to my life, I could not believe in a God who would not rescue me from it. But I coudn't see my own faults at the time, and could only see the faults in others, God included. I didnt want to help others, sinse they might turn on me and hurt me, I was smart and knew I was smarter than most people around me, and was proud of it but didnt understand why the ignorant and the savage seemed to rule the world. I had a bad self image except for my smarts, but I was never smart enough to fix my own life. So I was even a failure at being smart enough to fix myself. But when I was faced with the option of being on the side of evil or the side of good (and I bet you know who will win), I didnt want to suffer eternally, so I chose to admit my sins, and asked the Lord to save me, and I asked God to be a good Father to me, because I needed His love and compassion and know that God and Good was worth fighting for. My life slowly began to change, and I began to have faith in a God who cares ABOUT those who both trust in Him, love Him, and loves your fellow man. I knew I had to be honest about myself, my failings, and to fulfill the two great commandments. And above all else, have faith in Him. Life got lots better, rarely easy, but better. I think you have to let go of the past and start anew with God, pray for help in trusting him more, to love others more, to take those steps of faith and love your fellow man enough to love them as well. Try to help others more, stepping away from ourselves to help others often take our minds off our own problems.

Regardless I will pray for you.
 
Well, I certainly don't don't have as much faith as I would like to have. I've always admired other people's faith. It has been so hard to have faith in the midst of so much pain. His helping me with the eating has increased my faith, but I know I need to trust Him more and get to know Him so much better.
Well, I certainly don't don't have as much faith as I would like to have
If we are being truthful, none of us do!
It has been so hard to have faith in the midst of so much pain
You have had more than your share of pain and I understand how it effects your faith.
His helping me with the eating has increased my faith,
This of course may be true but it appears when you see your prayers being answered, you see him helping you. But, when things don't go your way, you see him not answering your prayers. Just because you struggle does not mean he is not listening to you!
Two questions if you don't mind:
  • The faith you do have, where does it come from?
  • What is the meaning of being Born Again?
 
If you think no one will be able to help you, no one will, not even God. I had a hard younger life as well. A father who tried to kill me and my brother, a stepfather who didnt know how to love, me being the subject of 90% of all the arguments my mother and stepfather had, my mother having a nervous breakdown when I was 16 due to the stress she had over her constant arguments with my stepfather, my mother being so lonely she wanted a more intimate relationship with me, being bullied at school because I was always nervous, and frightened of others. I knew their cruel ways well, like wolves seeing an injured animal and smiling. I got to read people well just like prey learned to avoid the predators. It really helped me in life. I used to have horrible dreams that often left me constantly tired and even more fearful. I had some church when I was younger but due to my life, I could not believe in a God who would not rescue me from it. But I coudn't see my own faults at the time, and could only see the faults in others, God included. I didnt want to help others, sinse they might turn on me and hurt me, I was smart and knew I was smarter than most people around me, and was proud of it but didnt understand why the ignorant and the savage seemed to rule the world. I had a bad self image except for my smarts, but I was never smart enough to fix my own life. So I was even a failure at being smart enough to fix myself. But when I was faced with the option of being on the side of evil or the side of good (and I bet you know who will win), I didnt want to suffer eternally, so I chose to admit my sins, and asked the Lord to save me, and I asked God to be a good Father to me, because I needed His love and compassion and know that God and Good was worth fighting for. My life slowly began to change, and I began to have faith in a God who cares ABOUT those who both trust in Him, love Him, and loves your fellow man. I knew I had to be honest about myself, my failings, and to fulfill the two great commandments. And above all else, have faith in Him. Life got lots better, rarely easy, but better. I think you have to let go of the past and start anew with God, pray for help in trusting him more, to love others more, to take those steps of faith and love your fellow man enough to love them as well. Try to help others more, stepping away from ourselves to help others often take our minds off our own problems.

Regardless I will pray for you.

First of all, when I said I didn't think anyone could help me, I meant that I know my problem is big enough that only God can possibly make it better.

I have never had much of a problem with taking an honest look at myself and my faults. I generally find lots of faults in myself, and tend to take the blame in any situation. I may get mad at first, and try to defend myself, but I end up feeling like I am to blame whether I am or not.

I have a great desire to help other people, but because of my great discomfort in interacting with people, it has always been difficult. I also have a very busy schedule, and not much time to help others. There are so many different volunteer opportunities that I have wanted to get involved in, but I have trouble getting through all the things I have to do in a day already.

Thank you for your prayers.
 
If we are being truthful, none of us do!

You have had more than your share of pain and I understand how it effects your faith.

This of course may be true but it appears when you see your prayers being answered, you see him helping you. But, when things don't go your way, you see him not answering your prayers. Just because you struggle does not mean he is not listening to you!
Two questions if you don't mind:
  • The faith you do have, where does it come from?
  • What is the meaning of being Born Again?

I don't think I'm alone in feeling that God is not with me when things aren't going well. Also, I don't expect everything to go my way. All I've ever really wanted in this life is to feel at peace and to love and be loved.

In answer to your questions, the faith I have comes from all my years of going to church and hearing the Word, and also from looking back and seeing all the times He had to have been with me even though I might not have thought he was at the time.

To be born again is to die to sin through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. To be accepted as one of God's children, and to have the Holy Spirit living within us.
 
In answer to your questions, the faith I have comes from all my years of going to church and hearing the Word, and also from looking back and seeing all the times He had to have been with me even though I might not have thought he was at the time
Now, we are getting somewhere! Your answer about faith is wrong:
  • You did not get faith by going to church!
  • You did not get faith by hearing the word!
  • First and foremost, you got your faith solely from God and as a gift: Ephesians 2:8-9
To be born again is to die to sin through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. To be accepted as one of God's children, and to have the Holy Spirit living within us.
  • Yes he died for your sins as if you were the only person in existence!
  • Yes, you have two births, one of you mother (physical) and one of the spirit (spiritual). The instant that you believed, God gives you faith and indwells the Holy Spirit in you. This indwelling is called being born of the spirit or being "born again"!
  • Now, another question: Do you recall when it was that you first believed and received the Holy Spirit ?
 
Okay. Now I can see that we have a different background as far as what we have been taught. My church does teach that our faith comes from God. However, I have a hard time believing that God would give faith to some people and not to others. I guess I believe that our faith grows through our life experiences.

In my church we are taught that we are saved at our baptism. And we baptize infants. We are taught that we are dead in our sin, and that we cannot choose God. God chooses us. I, however, always have a problem with that since I feel that if we are not able to choose to follow God, then what is the purpose of our lives? When Jesus walked the Earth people had to make the choice of whether to follow him or not. So I don't have a "date and time" of when I first believed. I have believed for as long as I can remember.
 
In my church we are taught that we are saved at our baptism. And we baptize infants
Arabhorselover, I do, in God's way love you and want the best for you. I am in no way criticizing your bring. I am off to my weekly bowling. But when I get back, I would like to address this Baptism of yours, for in part, this may be the root to your bondage. Please, don't take offense to this, bondage is living under a untruth. All of us live under the influence of a bondage to untruth. I will get back to you A.S.A.P. . Please read and be ready to talk about this: Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. TTYL :D
 
First of all, when I said I didn't think anyone could help me, I meant that I know my problem is big enough that only God can possibly make it better.
I have never had much of a problem with taking an honest look at myself and my faults. I generally find lots of faults in myself, and tend to take the blame in any situation. I may get mad at first, and try to defend myself, but I end up feeling like I am to blame whether I am or not.
I have a great desire to help other people, but because of my great discomfort in interacting with people, it has always been difficult. I also have a very busy schedule, and not much time to help others. There are so many different volunteer opportunities that I have wanted to get involved in, but I have trouble getting through all the things I have to do in a day already.
Thank you for your prayers.
Glad to add in my prayers. Start small, you dont need to be mother Teresa, you just need to help others as you can. And seeing that you believe you are saved when you are baptized, baptism is only the outward expression of of our faith in Christ, much like circumcision is the outward expression of the jewish faith. It is not what saves you, baptism comes after being saved. Being saved, very simply means, admitting your faults (sins) to God in prayer, and asking Jesus, the perfect one who can bear our burdens better than we can, to come into your temple, that being your body which holds your spirit, and to help you overcome your sorrow and pain, and the stain of sin which no water can wash away. Then to trust in Jesus to do what He says He will do, for He will. Perhaps as well, the church you attend that teaches this, might be giving you an oppressive spirit due to some of their teaching.
 
Glad to add in my prayers. Start small, you dont need to be mother Teresa, you just need to help others as you can. And seeing that you believe you are saved when you are baptized, baptism is only the outward expression of of our faith in Christ, much like circumcision is the outward expression of the jewish faith. It is not what saves you, baptism comes after being saved. Being saved, very simply means, admitting your faults (sins) to God in prayer, and asking Jesus, the perfect one who can bear our burdens better than we can, to come into your temple, that being your body which holds your spirit, and to help you overcome your sorrow and pain, and the stain of sin which no water can wash away. Then to trust in Jesus to do what He says He will do, for He will. Perhaps as well, the church you attend that teaches this, might be giving you an oppressive spirit due to some of their teaching.

As I said before, I have done all that, and I believe I am saved. I attend a Lutheran church, which has been around for a very long time, and is based on the word of God. You can read our stance on baptism here:

Belief and Practice - The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod
 
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