How do I accept Jesus as my Savior?

[GodB4Us]

Because you are not clearly saying what "Believing in Him" actually looks like.

And I know why.

You can't.

Because Believing in Him means Obeying him in repentance from what one has done because of what one HAD believed.

The Gospel is not a message to Believe in Moses. To believe in Jesus means that one had needed to repent from what one DID (to obtain forgiveness) because of that belief in Moses. Jesus did not come preaching Believe in ME. He came preaching REPENT, (because that's what "Believing in Him" means.)

But your narrow narrative cannot abide this. So you're unable to explain what "Believing in Him" means beyond mere circular repetition.

You'll spin your wheels in these thoughts several times, and at some point I'll leave the dance knowing you cannot break free from the whirling dervish.

Rhema

In all, and with all due respect, you have it backwards. You preach that Repent means "Believe in Him" while in Truth, "Believing in Him" means REPENT !! If one does NOT Repent and Obey, one is not Believing in Him. If one does Repent and Obey, one can be said BY THOSE ACTIONS of Repentance and Obedience to be Believing in Him.

I'm not even sure you can understand my position, your mantra having been so dug in up in your brain. I, though, understand both, and right in this post explained what "Believing in Him" looks like. (And I've done so before.)

Thanks for the dance. You should Repent.

Are you a Jesuit? Yes or no will suffice.

 

[GodB4Us]

Why do people without any education always think they know it all ??

Belittling the other of their education is not an excuse to dismiss scripture that you cannot explain away.

The Textus Receptus reads:

(Ephesians 2:8 KJV+) For by grace are ye saved through THE faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:​

τη γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια της πιστεως και τουτο ουκ εξ υμων θεου το δωρον​

Rhema

And if the difference is not obvious to you, then no continued discussion could possibly be fruitful.

Obviously you seem to want to take some of the credit & glory for your own salvation. Pride comes before the fall, brother. Faith in Jesus Christ is salvation, not faith in yourself and Jesus. Only God can help you see that difference, no matter the level of education you have since wisdom comes from the Lord, brother.

 

[Rhema]

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

And you STILL cannot tell me what that means.

How astonishing.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Funny how the end of that verse does not show God is pleased by saving those who repent from sins, but by those who believe the preaching of the cross.

Peter preached Jesus and him Resurrected. In his later ministry Paul preached Christ and Him Crucified.

What you believe to be the Gospel is not what Jesus taught. Proven; in that through many posts, you have used the words of Paul to reject the words of Jesus.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Are you a Jesuit? Yes or no will suffice.

So you cannot answer, and then decide to cover this up by asking an irrelevant question.
I don't "SQUIRREL" that easily.
ALL here should note that instead of addressing my post right here and now, you play a red herring instead.

Red herring - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That said, I am not a Jesuit. I eat Jesuits for breakfast.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Belittling the other of their education is not an excuse to dismiss scripture that you cannot explain away.

Says the one who has consistently used the words of Paul to deny the words of Jesus before men.

Any objection you have raised, I have addressed. (But I don't mind doing so again if need be.)

Pride comes before the fall, brother.

The correct translation is "Self-respect flees before one winds up in the gutter."

Brother...

no matter the level of education you have since wisdom comes from the Lord, brother

Stupidity and ignorance, though, does NOT come from the Lord. You think you are wise? And then accuse me of pride?

Fascinating.

How can you say, “We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us,” when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie? (Jeremiah 8:8 NRSV)​

Wise people seek education and learning.
(And wise people know this.)

Rhema

 

[GodB4Us]

So you cannot answer, and then decide to cover this up by asking an irrelevant question.
I don't "SQUIRREL" that easily.
ALL here should note that instead of addressing my post right here and now, you play a red herring instead.

Red herring - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That said, I am not a Jesuit. I eat Jesuits for breakfast.

Rhema

You emphasize an obscurity to make out of "the faith" while ignoring that it is not of yourselves as your salvation is a gift of God by grace which cannot be of any work you did to warrant that gift.

(Ephesians 2:8 KJV+) For by grace are ye saved through THE faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So don't believe Him that by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ ( God ) and that God had raised Him from the dead, you are saved.

Does that help you see what believing in Him means now?

 

[Christ4Ever]

I've locked this thread since it is going nowhere between you two, and so far, no body is adding anything to the discussion.
Maybe, with some prayer and study another way might make its way available to you and others, and then the thread can be opened again.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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