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How do you die to sin?

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How do you "die to sin". I have known drug addicts, who while high have turned their lives to Christ and never took another drug again, without withdrawal or any adverse problems. But I have known others with drug and/or drinking problems who are at the alter every week and just can't seem to get over this "addiction". Are you saying that those who are not "recovered" not "praying hard enough". Please help me understand how to "die to my sin". While I do not have a drinking/drug or sex problem, I do have an "addiction" that I consider sin, but have been unable to conquer. Please tell me what I am doing wrong.

I would love to pass this info to my husband as well who has been trying to "counsel" a friend from "sexual addiction"... He used to have a problem with magazines, now he is afraid that everytime he looks at a women he will want to have sex with her, picture her naked, etc. He says he has not touched a magazine or internet porn site in over a year, yet he can't get the thought of picturing women naked and wanted to touch there bottoms (behinds) out of his mind. He too is another "every week alter goer". How do we know when we are "truly repentative".

Thank you for any help you can offer.
 
I'm not going to write a long post here. Not that I couldn't, but its late at night and I need to get some sleep.

After a 30 year active alcoholic life, I've been free of alcohol addiction for 23 years and a member of Alcoholics Anonymous for 20 years.

I would suggest to the "altar goer" that he consider seeking counseling (professional) to root out the reasons behind his addiction. I would also remind him that the Scriptures give him ammunition to fire at the devil when temptation comes. He needs to put on the whole armor of God (Eph 6) and use that armor (understand the symbolisms Paul lists).

My e-mail address is in my profile. Feel free to give it to the altar-goer and I'll try to help him. When he e-mails me, he'll have to mention TalkJesus in the subject line. If he doesn't, I may think his message is spam and delete it.

SLE
 
Hi there atoms

I have moved your post to a new thread as you are asking a question here.

We have Jesus to help us to live our life here on earth.

When we sin we confess it and He forgives us.

1 Pet.2.24 says: verse is in bold.
Slaves
18 You who are slaves must accept the authority of your masters. Do whatever they tell you-not only if they are kind and reasonable, but even if they are harsh. 19 For God is pleased with you when, for the sake of your conscience, you patiently endure unfair treatment. 20 Of course, you get no credit for being patient if you are beaten for doing wrong. But if you suffer for doing right and are patient beneath the blows, God is pleased with you.
21 This suffering is all part of what God has called you to. Christ, who suffered for you, is your example. Follow in his steps. 22 He never sinned, and he never deceived anyone. 23 He did not retaliate when he was insulted. When he suffered, he did not threaten to get even. He left his case in the hands of God, who always judges fairly. 24 He personally carried away our sins in his own body on the cross so we can be dead to sin and live for what is right. You have been healed by his wounds! 25 Once you were wandering like lost sheep. But now you have turned to your Shepherd, the Guardian of your souls.

Phil.4.

4 Always be full of joy in the Lord. I say it again-rejoice! 5 Let everyone see that you are considerate in all you do. Remember, the Lord is coming soon.
6 Don't worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. 7 If you do this, you will experience God's peace, which is far more wonderful than the human mind can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus.
8 And now, dear brothers and sisters, let me say one more thing as I close this letter. Fix your thoughts on what is true and honorable and right. Think about things that are pure and lovely and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise. 9 Keep putting into practice all you learned from me and heard from me and saw me doing, and the God of peace will be with you.

Try and soak in the scriptures and take every thought captive before it turns into an action.

Hope this helps you.

God bless :rose: :rainbow: :love:
 
ya know i had some problems like this at a point in my life and in somethings i still have a hard time. what i have found is the holy spirit works through us all differently. some people the lord takes it away right away and others he works it out slowly. not because of favortism between people, rather because he knows what each individual is in need of. where the drugs may not be going away look closer and you will usually see other things changing in their lives.

how ever the only way to die to sin truly is to put complete faith in jesus christ and be baptised in his name.
 
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How do you "die to sin"... Are you saying that those who are not "recovered" not "praying hard enough". Please help me understand how to "die to my sin". While I do not have a drinking/drug or sex problem, I do have an "addiction" that I consider sin, but have been unable to conquer. Please tell me what I am doing wrong.

I would love to pass this info to my husband as well who has been trying to "counsel" a friend from "sexual addiction"...He too is another "every week alter goer". How do we know when we are "truly repentative".

Thank you for any help you can offer.


Okay...well...I think to "die to sin" it is as if you are completely letting go of it. Like the "die to your flesh." It's letting go of those carnal things that are of this world and turning to God.

It sounds so simple, but it is not so easy. Prayer is a great thing! Your friend has done a great job with turning away from those things. That is such a strong-hold in many people's lives. It is good that he has realized that it is wrong and that he is flighting it.

When you overcome something, satan is really mad. He will continue to tempt your friend and try to get him to break down. I suggest the best thing he can do when those thoughts come to his mind is pray. Ask God to strengthen him.

Also, going to church every week is not enough. Satan will still try to attack you. It is prayer that is important. You can have a partner, someone who can keep you accountable.

I'm not sure what it is that you feel like you are doing wrong, so I don't know how to advice you with that. The best thing you can do is pray. Whenever you feel tempted to do that, pick up the Bible or pray. I know it may seem that no matter how many times you pray for "that thing" to go away, it is still there. That is because you are still being tempted. The most important thing is to NOT give into it, and continue to lean towards God and pray.

I hope this has helped you sister!

Many Blessings,
monkeys
 
Hey Atoms

You sound like you are struggling a bit. I don't know everyones ideas on this, however for me to be dead to sin, is when sin no longer overwhelms me and that I trust in the Lord to slay all that is sinful in me. It doesn't mean though, that I am sin free, it just means that I have died to sin and it no longer grows in me.
I handed myself over to God and for 20 years I have been praying to stop smoking, the drinking...and to know His beloved Son Jesus Christ. I am smoke and any harmful addiction free now and I am counting on Him to keep me this way. I am of more use to the Lord.
Never give up faith Atoms. He is listening and shaping you into the character that He chooses you to be.

Jude 1:24
[ A Prayer of Praise ] Now all glory to God, who is able to keep you from falling away and will bring you with great joy into his glorious presence without a single fault.

Jesus will kill all the sin within us. God asked all His people for patience and endurance.

Colossians 1:11
We also pray that you will be strengthened with all his glorious power so you will have all the endurance and patience you need. May you be filled with joy, [ Or all the patience and endurance you need with joy.]

May the glorious power of our Lord Jesus be with you in Praise and in struggle. Praise Him daily. Our God loves to be Praised. Prayer and praise.
You will receive if you endure.

One more brief passage.

Romans 5:3
We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials, for we know that they help us develop endurance.

You are never alone when you have God on your side. :love: :sun:
 
How do you "die to sin". I have known drug addicts, who while high have turned their lives to Christ and never took another drug again, without withdrawal or any adverse problems. But I have known others with drug and/or drinking problems who are at the alter every week and just can't seem to get over this "addiction". Are you saying that those who are not "recovered" not "praying hard enough". Please help me understand how to "die to my sin". While I do not have a drinking/drug or sex problem, I do have an "addiction" that I consider sin, but have been unable to conquer. Please tell me what I am doing wrong.

I would love to pass this info to my husband as well who has been trying to "counsel" a friend from "sexual addiction"... He used to have a problem with magazines, now he is afraid that everytime he looks at a women he will want to have sex with her, picture her naked, etc. He says he has not touched a magazine or internet porn site in over a year, yet he can't get the thought of picturing women naked and wanted to touch there bottoms (behinds) out of his mind. He too is another "every week alter goer". How do we know when we are "truly repentative".

Thank you for any help you can offer.


"dead to sin" Blessings to you in Jesus. If I am dead to sin, that would mean that I am unable to respond......to sin.......being dead....to it.

Addiction is a problem, a problem hung upon us by the enemy himself to keep in bondage. The only antidote....I say it humbly.....is more of Him. "dead to it" I am aware fully indeed that only Jesus and our own strength to desire to please Him......can help us. We need Jesus more than we need our next breath............WE live not for today....only.....but for Eternity........Amen?

Blessings in the LOrd Jesus
 
With all the above there is one more point I would like to include. A person must make up his mind. One cannot be double minded about sin. So often a person says that he wants to change but way down deep he does not desire to give up the sin. That person does not change and is not changed. But once the mind is set, deliverance is at hand.
 
It's a done deal...

How do you "die to sin". I have known drug addicts, who while high have turned their lives to Christ and never took another drug again, without withdrawal or any adverse problems. But I have known others with drug and/or drinking problems who are at the alter every week and just can't seem to get over this "addiction". Are you saying that those who are not "recovered" not "praying hard enough". Please help me understand how to "die to my sin". While I do not have a drinking/drug or sex problem, I do have an "addiction" that I consider sin, but have been unable to conquer. Please tell me what I am doing wrong.

I would love to pass this info to my husband as well who has been trying to "counsel" a friend from "sexual addiction"... He used to have a problem with magazines, now he is afraid that everytime he looks at a women he will want to have sex with her, picture her naked, etc. He says he has not touched a magazine or internet porn site in over a year, yet he can't get the thought of picturing women naked and wanted to touch there bottoms (behinds) out of his mind. He too is another "every week alter goer". How do we know when we are "truly repentative".

Thank you for any help you can offer.

Hi Atoms,

Basically you don't die to sin if you are a born again Christian, you have already died to sin. The old you was crucified, died and was buried, and that was the end of him. He no longer exists. That's what the first 10 verses of Romans 6 is all about.
But it's about a lot more than having died to sin it's about walking in newness of life, that is Christ's resurrection life. That really is the key, you can't go around saying I died to sin every time a temptation comes, you have to see yourself living and walking in resurrection life.

2 Corinthians 5:17 says, Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. The old life we had has passed away all things have now become new in Christ.
The Apostle Paul uses different illustrations to describe the same event.
In Colossians 1: 13 he says, He has delivered us from the power of darkness, and has translated us into the Kingdom of His dear Son, This means God has delivered us from the power of darkness by having us co-crucified with Christ and has then translated us into Kingdom of His dear Son by our resurrection with Christ.

In Ephesians 2: 1-2 it says, As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. That's the kingdom of darkness again. In verse 1 there is a description of our spiritual condition before we became a new creation in Christ. Dead in transgressions and sins, that was the old you but you've died to that whole realm by your death and resurrection in Christ.

In Ephesians 2: 4-6 Paul goes on to say, But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus...

I hope from the scriptures above folk have a better idea of what Romans 6 is all about. One other point I would mention, the baptisms mentioned in Romans 6 are not referring to baptism in water. They are referring to baptism into Christ's death and his resurrection. Water baptism is a believers acknowledgment or testimony to the facts.

Romans 6: 1-4 1What, then, shall we say? shall we continue in the sin that the grace may abound?
2 let it not be! we who died to the sin -- how shall we still live in it?
3 are you ignorant that we, as many as were baptised to Christ Jesus, to his death were baptised?
4 we were buried together, then, with him through the baptism to the death, that even as Christ was raised up out of the dead through the glory of the Father, so also we in newness of life might walk.

So I hope that doesn't confuse anyone. If it does try praying Ephesians 1:17-18 often, its the key that opens the door of revelation.

Blessings,
Tonyb
 
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I have not read all the responses so I hope I don't repeat anything. How do you die to sin? It's easy with Jesus. It's hard by yourself. Because you see, Jesus said "without me you can do nothing". Okay you might pray the first few times Jesus I have this weakness I cannot overcome. But with faithful prayer and faithful bible reading it will build your faith, and your faith and love for God is what makes sin go into remission. Every time you notice the slightest sin coming your way inside... you confess right at that moment... Jesus I feel this (whatever). I promise that you do that faithfully, and Jesus will give you power over it... that is how you die to sin. Confess until he give you the power. He will give it to you through his word from the Holy Spirit. Only the Holy Spirit can birth his word into your heart and that is what give you strenght to belive his word and do it. God bless you.
 
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