How Does God Forgive?

[Spockrates]

I'm asking because I want to know what someone has to do to be forgiven. A place to start might be these words of Peter:

"Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out... ."

(Acts 3:19)

But no one need limit an answer to that one scripture. I'm thinking God forgives those who repent and believe, so these two actions are required to receive God's forgiveness. If you are interested in hanging out with me awhile, please tell me what you think.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I'm asking because I want to know what someone has to do to be forgiven. A place to start might be these words of Peter:

"Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out... ."

(Acts 3:19)

Its been my experience that repentance is a step that either begins or, as in the case of relapse, re-energizes a process of change (powered by God's Spirit) that gives us the strength to effectively resist temptation. True repentance calls for us to be dedicated to the task daily.

sLE

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I'm asking because I want to know what someone has to do to be forgiven. A place to start might be these words of Peter:

"Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out... ."

(Acts 3:19)

Its been my experience that repentance is a step that either begins or, as in the case of relapse, re-energizes a process of change (powered by God's Spirit) that gives us the strength to effectively resist temptation. True repentance calls for us to be dedicated to the task daily. Being human, we will have slips, but we can always get back up and rejoin the fight.

sLE

 

[Brighthouse]

I can only speak for myself on this one brother Spocrates,in order to forgive,I had to want to forgive. There are no magic words to say,there is no sacrifice one can make to obtain this. There is only a will, and a purpose you have personal, to want to do such a tough action. And it can be very tough! WHY Should I? Indeed why? I will never see this person again in my lifetime,they cannot hurt me anymore in any way,except in one area of my life! My mind! The reason to forgive, can be more important then forgiving itself to me bro.

For from the reason one chooses to have,the hope is that a lasting result may take place to be able to let this go!( rom 15:13)Hope is a good thing brother. Hope is what we in Christ Jesus always begin with,for from hope,( Hope is the door Jesus is knocking upon to let him in Rev 3:20-22) Love can indeed enter in through hope! When Jesus came along he reminded the people of there hope.( exodus 14:13-16,John 5:45-47) For I AM( john 8:58) sent him! And now I AM your hope as well! IF!!!! You believe!( john 6:28-29) Your only work in me!

Hope to me brother is not talked about enough,love looks to replace hope,but to me brother, one can never love without first having hope in that love! For what faith or love can be acted upon without first having hope that what we do will even work?? Believing God's words over our emotion and feeling is indeed to me brother keeping hope living! And since hope is kept alive,love and faith can mature and grow daily inside us. Life is tough enough to consider daily to me,I need simple bro. lol I do not have full wisdom,but i can say I hope in the wisdom from God i do have. And if another brother or sister is encouraged in there walk,then God's hope which lives in me,can be moved unto another,because having hope for self,comes before one can ever have hope for another. Blessing bro.

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

God is perfect and whole,lacking nothing.
He has no needs at all,in fact he supplies every need.
Believing the creator needed to forgive his creation implies that he was or is lacking something
or that he made some kind of error in his creative activity.

So in order to forgive us he needed to become one of us so that he could be victimized by us.
So he made himself a victim/sacrifice so that his victim-lamb would have authority to forgive because he and only he was wrongly treated..

John 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 5 26 "For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;
John 5 27 and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man.

So I think the answer is God forgives by constructing (in a place called time and space) a need to forgive.

So Jesus has the authority to forgive because he was the one who was mistreated by those he came to minister to.

I think "how does Jesus forgive" is the more appropriate question.

 

[Spockrates]

Its been my experience that repentance is a step that either begins or, as in the case of relapse, re-energizes a process of change (powered by God's Spirit) that gives us the strength to effectively resist temptation. True repentance calls for us to be dedicated to the task daily. Being human, we will have slips, but we can always get back up and rejoin the fight.

sLE

SLE:

Thanks for replying. Just trying to wrap my head around this. So what role does repentance play in salvation? Is it, like faith, a cause of being forgiven by God?

My thought is that God forgives everyone potentially, in that forgiveness is available to all. But a potential state is not the same as an actual state. So God forgives some actually, but only when they meet the conditions God requires to make potential forgiveness actual forgiveness. So I'm asking if repentance is one such condition.

 

[Spockrates]

I can only speak for myself on this one brother Spocrates,in order to forgive,I had to want to forgive. There are no magic words to say,there is no sacrifice one can make to obtain this. There is only a will, and a purpose you have personal, to want to do such a tough action. And it can be very tough! WHY Should I? Indeed why? I will never see this person again in my lifetime,they cannot hurt me anymore in any way,except in one area of my life! My mind! The reason to forgive, can be more important then forgiving itself to me bro.

For from the reason one chooses to have,the hope is that a lasting result may take place to be able to let this go!( rom 15:13)Hope is a good thing brother. Hope is what we in Christ Jesus always begin with,for from hope,( Hope is the door Jesus is knocking upon to let him in ) Love can indeed enter in through hope! When Jesus came along he reminded the people of there hope.( exodus 14:13-16,) For I AM( john 8:58) sent him! And now I AM your hope as well! IF!!!! You believe!( john 6:28-29) Your only work in me!

Hope to me brother is not talked about enough,love looks to replace hope,but to me brother, one can never love without first having hope in that love! For what faith or love can be acted upon without first having hope that what we do will even work?? Believing God's words over our emotion and feeling is indeed to me brother keeping hope living! And since hope is kept alive,love and faith can mature and grow daily inside us. Life is tough enough to consider daily to me,I need simple bro. lol I do not have full wisdom,but i can say I hope in the wisdom from God i do have. And if another brother or sister is encouraged in there walk,then God's hope which lives in me,can be moved unto another,because having hope for self,comes before one can ever have hope for another. Blessing bro.

Thanks, Brighthouse. At the moment I'm wondering how God forgives. You don't have to speak for God, but if he has spoken to you about how he forgives, please let me know.

 

[Spockrates]

God is perfect and whole,lacking nothing.
He has no needs at all,in fact he supplies every need.
Believing the creator needed to forgive his creation implies that he was or is lacking something
or that he made some kind of error in his creative activity.

So in order to forgive us he needed to become one of us so that he could be victimized by us.
So he made himself a victim/sacrifice so that his victim-lamb would have authority to forgive because he and only he was wrongly treated..

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 5 26 "For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;
27 and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man.

So I think the answer is God forgives by constructing (in a place called time and space) a need to forgive.

So Jesus has the authority to forgive because he was the one who was mistreated by those he came to minister to.

I think "how does Jesus forgive" is the more appropriate question.

Thanks, ThisCrossHurts. So how does Jesus forgive?

 

[Brighthouse]

OH!! My bad bro sorry!! LOL

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

Thanks, ThisCrossHurts. So how does Jesus forgive?

Through bloodshot eyes.

A bloody business we are in,blood ,blood everywhere,its all the eye can see.
But was it enough blood?
Yes,the resurrection says, yes!
He sees everything through the blood,pure sanctified and holy.

How does he forgive?
He chose to.

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

I'm asking because I want to know what someone has to do to be forgiven. A place to start might be these words of Peter:

"Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out... ."

If you wrong someone and they refuse to forgive you.What can you do to make them forgive you?
It's up to them not you,so the short answer is "nothing",obviously your actions may influence their decision.
There are however different kinds of human forgiveness,unconditional restoration being probably the rarest.

I could even argue that it is a state of mind that I already pre-suffer the loss of all things including my life therefore I cannot be victim.
For give ness=a state of planning to give?
I;m not sure why we don't call it givness if it;s not done before the transgression.

Repenting might make you feel more forgiven.
Jesus used the prodigal son as an example of the fathers attitude toward his wayward one.
Did that son really need to say he was sorry?
Was he?
He might have said he was sorry but do you think he would have come home had he not become impoverished?
The Father loved him and restored him even giving him the signet ring(symbol of authority).
Questioning forgiveness puts undo stress on grace.

God sees through the blood of the atonement and scripture claims he has cast your sins as far away as the east is from the west.
So if you were to ask him about your sin he would have to send an angel to try to find it.

John 5:22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,
John 8:15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.

God judges no one,Jesus judges no one,so where is all this judgement coming from?
We should believe him and do the works he requires of us,it's not that burdensome.
John 6:28 Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
John 6:29 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

 

[goga]

Just trying to wrap my head around this. So what role does repentance play in salvation? Is it, like faith, a cause of being forgiven by God?

Role.. hm? Never gave a though of that. As far as scripture says, when I repent, I should have an understanding who I am, what I did, why.. then I have to understand who God is, what He did, why. If those puzzles come together, there is a correct outcome. I am thankful to God for His love towards me and a chance to get my things straightened in order to become closer to His design, to become alike with Him.

We don't get friends with those who are not like us, but getting close to those, who thinks, does and feels like we do. Isn't so? Same with Almighty. If we want to become like He Is, we have to have an understanding where we are, where we're going and where we'll be. Study scripture and yourself.