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amy_225

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Hi...it's been a while since I've posted here. I was saved at age 8, raised in a Godly home and taught the difference between right and wrong. I was also raised that you stay with your husband, and if you do get divorced, you should never re-marry. Well, I've been married for 17 years now. I got married at 18, my husband was 20. I did everything right...no sex before marriage, making sure he was a Christian, etc. I feel let down because...and I know this sounds terrible...I think I may blame God for the horrible marriage I have had. I try not to, but I am angry because I have lived in fear of this man for so long. He can be good to me for long periods of time, then for no real apparant reason he will just go crazy on me, throwing and breaking my possessions, calling me names that I cannot repeat, and even hitting me, biting me and slapping me at times. I tried to leave once, after I found out he had had an affair. But he got back into church, asked for forgiveness before everyone, and I thought I needed to forgive him and go back. We have four beautiful children who have seen things they may never forget, and I hate myself for letting that happen...but I don't have the courage to leave. I could never make it on my own, we would lose our home and my children would suffer. I am in the process of moving up in my job, which will help, but even if I can somehow make it on my own, I know he will never leave me alone. I feel he could even kill me, as he has threatened to do many times. I know there are people who cannot understand how someone could live like that...and I even don't understand it. But you have to understand that 80% of the time he is not like this, he provides for his family and seems to love us. I don't know if he has a medical condition that may cause him to change personalities, but I can't get him to go to the doctor to find out. I wish I could hear from Jesus on this..I have prayed every day for years for wisdom...what's best for the kids, to leave their dad? Or to do as Jesus commands us and to forgive him every time? I need some help, I am so confused. Any kind of advice would be greatly appreciated.
Amy
 
Hello there

I am not yet married and I don't know what is a life of having a wife. But i am sure that storms are happening to us because of three reasons.

If you will read in the book of acts 27 that Apostle Paul perceive that there will be a storm coming, but the sailor did not listen to him and they set sailing until a tempestuous wind came.
This is the first storm, It came so that people around Paul would believe that our God is an Almighty God...

Then in the book of Jonah you will read there the storm that came because of Jonah's backsliding, it came because God wants his servant to turn from backsliding. And we can see there that because of his disobedience people around suffers.

Then lastly, in the book of Mark 4:34, the disciples followed Christ words saying " let us go into the other side" He invites them to the other side, and I believe that most of these disciples were fishermen and are skilled in the sea, they know whether there will be storm that will come, but still they followed Christ instead of murmurings. You see although they followed Him still they experience storms in their lives. God want to test their Faith. Mark 4:40 "And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?"

Even though we are in Christ it doesn't mean that there would be no storms in our life, instead Christ is our rock and our refuge in times of storms.
 
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Yes, and I believe this is true; but how do you know if He wants you to change a situation, or stay in it and trust Him?
 
Hello amy_225, I was reading my Joyce Meyer book this morning and afterwards I went to her web site. If you are not aware Joyce Meyer was abused as a child, by her father. She wrote an excellent piece of advise for people who have been in similar situations and are going through similar circumstances as yourself. I am not saying all this article refers to you, but some portions of it may help you. It's a long read.

You are in my thoughts and I will pray for you.

Abuse and the Miracle of Recovery
by Joyce Meyer

During my childhood, I was abused sexually, emotionally, verbally, and physically.

Many of you reading this article have also been abused, or you deal with someone in your life who comes from an abusive, dysfunctional background.

What is abuse? It means to misuse, to use improperly, to use up, or to injure by maltreatment. Let me give you a brief definition of the four types of abuse.

Sexual abuse: considered to be the most degrading and offensive. It consists of molestation, rape, incest, exhibitionism, voyeurism, obscene phone calls, etc.

Emotional abuse: withholding of love, attention, loving touches, or words of acceptance. Love is only given based on acceptable performance, etc.

Abandonment: would fall under the category of emotional abuse and can occur when one or both parents leave the child physically or mentally. Adults can also experience the devastating effects of abandonment if important people in their lives leave suddenly or violently.

Verbal abuse: People must hear loving words of acceptance to develop properly. Verbal abuse can be overt or covert. Overt: aggressive, angry words which tell you that you are flawed or unacceptable Covert: loving words withheld

Physical abuse: beatings, unfair discipline, locked in closets or dark rooms, food withheld, etc.

The effects of abuse can be devastating and long lasting. Many people never recover from abuse.

Although I functioned as what appeared to be "normal" in society, I had multiple inward problems and complicated personality disorders. I will name a few of the things going on in me at that time that prevented me from righteousness, peace, and joy that Romans 14:17 declares is the kingdom. God the Father sent Jesus so we could have and enjoy "the kingdom."

I was bitter about my past and had a chip on my shoulder, which caused me to have the attitude that everyone owed me preferential treatment. I was full of self-pity, especially if things did not go my way. I was controlling, manipulative, fearful, insecure, and harsh. I was just plain hard to get along with and often downright obnoxious. I was judgmental, suspicious, and very negative.

I experienced a lot of guilt and condemnation. I had a shame-based nature; therefore, everything I attempted was poisoned. Since I did not like who I was, I spent many years trying to be like someone else—I am sure you are getting the picture that I was quite a mess.

Now, what I am getting ready to say is important. I WAS BORN AGAIN AND ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN CHURCH LIFE. We attended church regularly and did church work. Our lives revolved around the church, but I was not getting victory over my problems. In fact, the really sad part was that I did not even understand that I had a problem. I thought everyone else had a problem; and if they would change, I would be happy.

In 1976 1 received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Acts 1:8 speaks of receiving the power to be witnesses. Notice it does not say to do witnessing, but to be witnesses. The Bible says we are to be living epistles read of all men, light in a dark world, and the salt of the earth. Doing is a different thing than being. I had my outside polished up, but my inner life was a wreck. Quite often the inner turmoil exploded, and then everybody could see I was not quite what I appeared to be.

The outpouring of the Holy Spirit in my life gave me a real love for God's Word and an ability to understand the Word like never before. Second Corinthians 3:18 (paraphrased) says that as we look into the Word of God, it is like looking into a mirror; and we are transformed into His image from glory to glory.

I have been changing ever since. I have changed, and changed, and changed; and I am still changing. Most of those problems are completely gone and the rest only flare up occasionally. I even look differently—I look younger, happier, and more peaceful.

Second Corinthians 5:17 (paraphrased) says if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things have passed away; behold, all things are made new. But that really does not mean everything from the past just vanishes. The Amplified Bible brings it out this way, "Behold, the fresh and new has come!" In other words, without Jesus there is no hope of newness of life; the past always affects the future without the power of God to overcome it. But even with Jesus, it is not automatic. When the fresh and new comes, there is opportunity; but we must give the Word of God an exalted place in our lives. We must face the truth as revealed to us in His Word, and then the truth will set us free if it is acted upon.

I want to encourage you! Keep pressing on. You will keep changing if you stay in the Word. Philippians 1:6 (paraphrased) says He that has begun a good work in you is well able to bring it to completion. Hebrews 12:2 (paraphrased) says look to Jesus who is the author and the finisher of our faith.

Now I am enjoying kingdom living: "Righteousness, peace, and joy." And no matter what your past has been or how many problems you have, God will do a miracle for you. He will change you into the image of Jesus Christ and give you a new life worth living.

Question: "Is abuse an acceptable reason for divorce?"
From Gotquestion

Answer:

The Bible gives only two reasons in which divorce is permitted: the first is in the case of abandonment of a Christian by an unbelieving spouse (1 Corinthians 7:15), and the second is if one partner is involved in a lifestyle of infidelity (Matthew 5:32). Although God allows it in these circumstances, He has never been an endorser of divorce. It should be assumed that two Bible-believing Christians will not mutually agree to divorce, but should practice the forgiveness and love that God freely gives us. “'For I hate divorce!' says the Lord, the God of Israel...” (Malachi 2:16).

The Bible is silent on the issue of marital abuse as a reason for divorce, although it is obvious that God despises the mistreatment of wives by their husbands (Colossians 3:19, 1 Peter 3:7, Ephesians 5:25-33). Abuse should not be tolerated by anyone. No one should have to live in an abusive environment, whether it be from a family member, friend, employer, caregiver, or stranger. Physical abuse is against the law, and the authorities should be the first ones contacted if this occurs.

The best way to prevent ending up feeling trapped in an abusive marriage is to get to know a potential spouse before making the commitment to marry. The signs of being an abuser are manifested in one's personality. These “red flags” are always there, but are often overlooked or even ignored when attraction and infatuation take over. These signs can include: irrational jealousy, the need to be in control, a quick temper, attempts to isolate the other person from his or her friends and family, drug or alcohol abuse, and disrespect for their partner's boundaries, privacy, personal space, or moral values.

A wife (or husband) who is being abused should get herself, and any children, out of the situation immediately and find a new temporary home. I can find nothing in the Bible to indicate that separation (not divorce) in this instance would be wrong. Although friends and family will likely tell the woman (or man) to immediately file for divorce, God places a much higher value on marriage than the world does.

Once separated, the husband (if he is the abuser) has the responsibility to reach out for help. First and foremost, he should seek God. “For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And the door is opened to everyone who knocks” (Matthew 7:8). No one has more power to heal individuals and relationships than God. He must be the Lord of our lives, the Master of our assets, and the Head of our households.

Both husband and wife must commit themselves to God and then develop a relationship with Him through His Son, Jesus Christ. “And this is the way to have eternal life – to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth” (John 17:3). This should be accompanied by intensive Christian counseling – first individually, then as a couple, and even for the entire family if necessary.

During this time, the wife should let her husband know of her unconditional love and support, and devote herself to much prayer. Although the effort must be made on the part of her husband to make the changes, she should not give up hope if he is at first resistant. However, if he never even takes the first step, she should not consider returning to him until he does.

The abused spouse should not return home until a trained Christian counselor decides that the family will be safe in the same home as the former abuser. Together, the couple should then commit to serving and obeying God. They should spend individual time with God daily, attend a Bible-believing church, begin serving God through a ministry, and get involved in small Bible study groups that fit their needs. “What this means is that those who become Christians become new persons. They are not the same anymore, for the old life is gone. A new life has begun” (2 Corinthians 5:17)!
 
Sounds like he has Scizophreia. I am sorry for your situation- my mom and I lived with something similar for 23 years (my dad was a verbal abuser) I will pray for you.
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Dear amy_225, so sad to hear about your situation. I hope you have someone near you, friends and other family to support you and help you. I think it's not right for anyone to live in fear with treathenings like you said. Have you considered going together with him to christian marriage consulting? To see if he will loosen up and admit to have problems. I don't think it's good for any children either to live in a family situation like what you described. God does not want you and the children to suffer, that's for sure. I will be praying for you:love:
 
Hi there sister, this is a tough situation. I can give you some scripture, ask the Holy Spirit to tell you what they mean and how they apply to your life.

I also think you should remember the facts as Jesus said them, like you said in your first post. This is a tough race we're in, the narrow road. If your husband is on this road, he should let God change him, completely

Romans 16:17
I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

That may be your husband in the above verse, but like you said and know, we should always forgive as Jesus said. The main thing to remember is that you shouldn't let him and his ways cause a division in your life, especially between you and God. Always lean on the Lord, He is the most wonderful gentleman and He will never leave you. He will be there for you always.

1 Corinthians 10:13
No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.

Temptation could be the fact that you have a thought of leaving your husband, now you may have this thought each time he starts acting nasty or you may get it at times when there is peace, it doesn't matter, it's still temptation. Remember, the only reason, Biblically for divorce, is adultery, if your husband commits adultery, you are entitled to leave him.

Now you have to think for yourself, am I going to leave him because he committed adultery before? Did I really forgive him? Has he changed? These are important questions, but my only advice is this, if he ever commits adultery again, leave him without hesitation, you are not worth living in a marriage where an adulterer does and lives like he wants, that makes you an adulterer too.

Matthew 23:28
In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

I see your husband like the above verse states, I don't judge him, nor condemn him, but if you can find the strength to show your husband Matthew 23:28 and tell him that he is like that, he will surely have to change his ways.

God bless you sister, I will pray for you, everything is possible through God.

Much love
teraside
 
Dear Amy,

I do not think you should leave him. It would be the easiest thing for you to do in such a situation. Maybe you could both go to marriage councling together. You could suggest that when it is one of his good days. You could even get councling from your pastor so it is more familiar.

I am so sorry that you have to go through this. May the Lord give you wisdom, guidance, and protection during this time.


Many Blessings,
monkeys
 
Thanks for all your replies

Well, I do thank you all for all your answers and the time and thought you obviously put into them. It is very hard to know what's right to do. On the one hand, I am torn because I do not believe in divorce; but on the other hand, my biggest concern is for my children. I think of how they are being hurt emotionally. I can't think of where the verse is, but there is one about it being better to have a millstone hung around the neck and thrown into the bottom of a river...something like that...than to hurt one of these little ones. Hopefully, I'm not taking that out of context. Besides which, I do not want them to develop an unhealthy view of who God the Father is, since I think we all tend to look at our earthly fathers as examples of who God is.
I have suggested counseling, and the problem is, we have been many times; but although his intentions are always good, he never (and I mean, never) carries them out. He also seems to forget things like that really easily (perhaps another sign of a mental disorder?) He also tends to forget some of his words and/or actions when he has lost control. For example, he might call our oldest son "a fat punk" and tell him that he is so tired of being around him (my son is 13, very sweet boy and this kills him inside, I know).
But then when I call him on it later, after he has calmed down, he will deny ever saying it. He uses profanity constantly, even in church under his breath is the kids are acting up...and he KNOWS this is wrong. He is also extremely judgmental of other people..example, " I can't believe someone like that is in the church"...but never looks at himself.
I'm sorry to rant on and on...it's just a tough situation and it's nice to have someone to tell. I don't dare tell my parents, they have so much to deal with and I just can't put them throught that.
Thanks again,
Amy
 
Dearest Amy,

I'm so glad that you are able to let out your frustrations here. We are here to help you! :) I honestly do not know what to say. I can understand why you want to leave. I cannot imagine how difficult it is for you.

I think first you should explain to your children why your husband is behaving the way he is. Make sure to stick by your husband so your children do not end up resenting him later on in their lives. Just help them understand that your husband is going through a difficult time, and that he loves him, and ask them to pray for him.

This is a crucial time when you and your husband need to stick together the most. He really needs you.

As for your husband denying what he says to the children or his behavior. I am really suprize about that. If you REALLY want to show him what he has done or how he is making you feel, maybe you can give him a videotape explaining the way you feel and give it to him.

I really strongly feel like this could be satan trying to break your family apart. I strongly encourage you to seek prayer over your husband, family, and home. You should invite your pastor(s) to come to the house and pray over it. I find it strange that your husband doesn't remember the bad things he does.

I am so sorry that you are going through this. I pray that a group of people will come around you to support you and encourage you during this difficult time. I pray that everything works out in your favor.

If you ever need to talk about this, feel free to private message me!

Many Blessings,
monkeys
 
Praise the Lord Sister,

Prayers are going up on your behalf right now. I read in a book by Joy Haney that said sometimes when we pray we begin to thank God for his deliverance. I am thanking God right now for the peace of mind He is going to give you and for the comfort he is giving to you and your children. I am thanking Him for solving and resolving your situation. I am thanking Him right now for touching your husbands heart and giving him a mind to serve God and to show love and compassion to his family. I am thanking Him right now for giving you rest and restoring His joy in your life. I thank You Lord, I thank You Lord for putting a hedge around this mother and her family and keep them safe from hurt ,harm and danger.

Sister, I will continue to pray for you. Our only answer is in Him. He can deliver and He will deliver. I look forward in hearing your praise report soon.

Stay Blessed
Churchlady
 
Lift up your eyes

:girl_hug: I lift up mine eyes to the hills from which cometh my help, my help cometh from the Lord, Pslams 121. FOR EVERY MESS, ther comes a message, and FOR EVERY TEST, THERE WILL BE A TESTIMONY. :lightning :lightning HOLD ON OLE SOLDIER.What this is that you have to take it to spiritual warfare, concecration, fasting, studing the word. I will be agreeing with you in the spirit. Until that breaking of day. CAST ALL YUOR CARES UPON HIM FOR HE CARETH FOR YOU:love:
 
Amy_225:

The characteristics of your husband's behavior suggest that there are "stongholds" in his heart over ill treatment, abuse, abandonment, or judgmentalism in his past that inhibits the freedom of his walk with the Lord.

When behaviors that you describe surface, they are often accompanied by anger, pent up frustration and judgmentalism, but not that of his adult self but rather of his inner child or adolescent that were never resolved or dealt with in a healthy Christian way. Often, young children or even adolescents in acts of rebellion sow the seeds of anger and "bitter root" judgment into themselves. Then because of God's Spiritual Law of sowing and reaping, your husband is now reaping the harvest of the bad seed sowing he may have committed when he was younger.

This you can see in Matthew 7:1-2 and Galations 6:7-8. When we speak rebelliously to our parents or about our parents we sow bad seed into ourselves. When your husband behaves badly in front of your children he is doing the same to them.

This is an area of my personal, Ministry study; Ministerial Counseling.

My strong suggestion to you and your husband is find a reputable Christian counselor and seek individual and relationship counseling. Or find a Minister that is trained in Restoration-Prayer Ministry and Christian Counseling. Even though you have not written of your situation in great detail, you have provided enough to convince me that your husband does not fully realize what sets him off. That suggests a circumstance(s) that have happened in the past that have sown bad seeds that he and you all are now reaping the bad fruit of that or those seeds.

Unfortunately, this bad seed reaping is an all too recurrent occurrence in many Christian lives.

Among the best books on this subject, by Christian authors/counselors are

"The Transformation of the Inner Man" by John and Paula Sandford
"Shattering Your Strongholds" by Liberty S Savard
"Tearing Down Your Strongholds" by Carlotta Waldmann
"Restoration-Prayer Ministry" by Carlotta Waldmann

There are many other fine authors and excellent reference materials by other authors.

There are web-sites, but until Chad reviews I will not make any attempt to post them.

I would be most happy to provide some initial guidance and discussion in these areas of counseling should you have questions and want someone to talk to more immediately. Feel free to email me through TalkJesus if you want more information or more explanation.

In His Name

Pastor Robert Lehmann
 
Pastor Robert, I would love to get any kind of counseling I can. I am desperate for answers. I want to do the right thing in my marriage, and I am very afraid of how all this will affect my children. I fear they will grow up and resent me for having made them live like that. My oldest son has even asked me to please leave his dad, that he has nightmares that his father will kill me. He doesn't like to leave me alone in the house with his dad. Surely this is not a healthy thing?
 
Amy -

As a pastor friend of mine says, "Not every m arriage is made in heaven."

I suggest you contact the nearest Women's Crisis Center or the nearest YWCA. Both of these organizations offer much help to women in your situation and at little or no cost to you.

Women's Crisis Centers offer shelter in undisclosed locations (your husband would not be able to locate you and the kids).

SLE
 
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Hi...it's been a while since I've posted here. I was saved at age 8, raised in a Godly home and taught the difference between right and wrong. I was also raised that you stay with your husband, and if you do get divorced, you should never re-marry. Well, I've been married for 17 years now. I got married at 18, my husband was 20. I did everything right...no sex before marriage, making sure he was a Christian, etc. I feel let down because...and I know this sounds terrible...I think I may blame God for the horrible marriage I have had. I try not to, but I am angry because I have lived in fear of this man for so long. He can be good to me for long periods of time, then for no real apparant reason he will just go crazy on me, throwing and breaking my possessions, calling me names that I cannot repeat, and even hitting me, biting me and slapping me at times. I tried to leave once, after I found out he had had an affair. But he got back into church, asked for forgiveness before everyone, and I thought I needed to forgive him and go back. We have four beautiful children who have seen things they may never forget, and I hate myself for letting that happen...but I don't have the courage to leave. I could never make it on my own, we would lose our home and my children would suffer. I am in the process of moving up in my job, which will help, but even if I can somehow make it on my own, I know he will never leave me alone. I feel he could even kill me, as he has threatened to do many times. I know there are people who cannot understand how someone could live like that...and I even don't understand it. But you have to understand that 80% of the time he is not like this, he provides for his family and seems to love us. I don't know if he has a medical condition that may cause him to change personalities, but I can't get him to go to the doctor to find out. I wish I could hear from Jesus on this..I have prayed every day for years for wisdom...what's best for the kids, to leave their dad? Or to do as Jesus commands us and to forgive him every time? I need some help, I am so confused. Any kind of advice would be greatly appreciated.
Amy
just wait on God, and hold upon His promises, he can reverse the irriversible and he can repair any broken foundation,
i prayed that the grace of God will see you throuhgh, no matter what, keep loving your husband and keep praying for him,
remember this that "the heart of the king is in the hand of the lord and he turnneth it like the course of the river", your miracle will soon come in the name of Jesus
 
Dear Amy,

'Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.' Mat 19:6 does not mean unintentionally put yourself and your children in harms way or in the path of evil. SpiritLedEd has made a very good point. Make sure you have the address and contact details of the nearest women's or Christian refuge centre to hand, just incase you need a safe sanctuary for yourself and your children in an emergency. Be as prepared as you can but also try not to give up hope that your husband will eventually see the light and the error of his ways.

My 13 year old daughter asked me to leave my husband (who is not Christian) also, it was not an easy thing to hear knowing that she wanted a life with me and her brother but not her Stepdad. She said I kept giving him too many chances and treated him like a child who didn't know any better. So take heart and instead of feeling guilt, know that this is an imperfect world and children do sometimes see things that they shouldn't have too. See this as a sign, to ask God to help you find ways that you can protect your children to the best of your abilty from these things now and in the future.

My beloved late husband used to say "Regrets are pointless, as you cannot change what is past" you can only do the best you can right here and now.

May God Bless and help you, I will pray for your clear discernment and yours and your childrens protection. Seek and the Lord will give you the all the answers you need.

May we all bring glory to his name.

:love: Eve
 
Yes, and I believe this is true; but how do you know if He wants you to change a situation, or stay in it and trust Him?

I can't tell you in your situation, if there is someone who should know it, it is you.. be sensitive of God's voice within you. He always tells us what to do we just sometimes don't hear Him because we are letting other things hinder His voice, do you know what are those things? unbelief, fear, doubt and sin..

Listen, the Bibile says " Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

God sees things we don't see, and most of the times we see things are happening so wrong to us, but God sees it very differently. He wants you to trust Him and let Him direct thy paths.
 
There is help

Hello my sister I read your post and that is sad,you don't have to stay in that abusive relationship. It talks about that in scripture. If you really want a new life and be free in what GOD has for you call me. (206)723-3628. I work with abused woman and have alot of resources. What good is just talking about this put your foot forward stop living in bondage and be all that GOD said you are my name is Suprina call me asap.Your somebody and you deserve to live. To many people are stuck in the law of Moses when JESUS paid it all we are now under grace.
 
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