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I have been asked many times

Twistie

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I've been asked by various people whom I come in contact with in person n online why do u not go to "church"..

N this is my response...

Do you think I would not Love to meet sum true believers?? Do u think I would not like to fellowship n Talk about YH n Love on the Lord with other??..

What many wanna claim are "churches" I see them as temples for that is just what they r to me they r no different then the temples of the old back when the Messiah had walked the earth filled with Leader who now go as pastor preacher teacher leader or some other title that steal from the blind.. why do I say that let me tell you what I have seen.. I have seen the leaders get out of their nice expensive shiney cars while those that attend struggle to even get there I see these leaders take from the blind for repeating words they read n I say again read not live... I see these leaders send peep over seas to help the less fortunate as they claim while their own people are struggling to put food on the table or to keep their electric on..
Ive seen n these leaders "prophesied" Lies to the blind n the dead feeding them ear candy so they will come again the follow week ..

Does it not take anyone's else's breath away or stomach hurt when they walk into one of the temples?

See this is what YH told me He said not to go that way that is not of Him.. YH ooh YH He is about family He is about Love.. How can one who goes to the same temple week after week month after month not know the numbers of all that attend there? Isn't that what brothers n sisters do? We call each other we get together n we have church with out even goin to the temple??
Do not brothers n sister meet up any other day of the week ? Can one not call a brother n sister in times of joy or sadness?

See I am not setting for anything not no more that's how I wounded up in the world with my back turned against YH...

Blessed is the man1
who walks not in the counsel of the wicked,
nor stands in the way of sinners,
nor sits in the seat of scoffers;
2 but his delight is in the law2 of the LORD,
and on his law he meditates day and night.
3 He is like a tree
planted by streams of water
that yields its fruit in its season,
and its leaf does not wither.
In all that he does, he prospers.
4 The wicked are not so,
but are like chaff that the wind drives away.
5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous;
6 for the LORD knows the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked will perish.

Do not think I've only seen this in one temple or area or state or county for I wondered the streets of the world for a very long time...

It is not easy for me when Eva I walk past one of the temples n I wind up goin in I wind up leaving heartbroken all ova again

Twistie :broken_heart:
 
Just remember, you arent there to be healed and refreshed in your spirit. It should be so, but the church is so broken, that its rarely the case. When the Lord asks us to go to some church, its because He wants us to do something there, try to keep going till at least you accomplish what the Lord wants you to do there.
 
I've been asked by various people whom I come in contact with in person n online why do u not go to "church"..

N this is my response...

Do you think I would not Love to meet sum true believers?? Do u think I would not like to fellowship n Talk about YH n Love on the Lord with other??..

What many wanna claim are "churches" I see them as temples for that is just what they r to me they r no different then the temples of the old back when the Messiah had walked the earth filled with Leader who now go as pastor preacher teacher leader or some other title that steal from the blind.. why do I say that let me tell you what I have seen.. I have seen the leaders get out of their nice expensive shiney cars while those that attend struggle to even get there I see these leaders take from the blind for repeating words they read n I say again read not live... I see these leaders send peep over seas to help the less fortunate as they claim while their own people are struggling to put food on the table or to keep their electric on..
Ive seen n these leaders "prophesied" Lies to the blind n the dead feeding them ear candy so they will come again the follow week ..

Does it not take anyone's else's breath away or stomach hurt when they walk into one of the temples?

See this is what YH told me He said not to go that way that is not of Him.. YH ooh YH He is about family He is about Love.. How can one who goes to the same temple week after week month after month not know the numbers of all that attend there? Isn't that what brothers n sisters do? We call each other we get together n we have church with out even goin to the temple??
Do not brothers n sister meet up any other day of the week ? Can one not call a brother n sister in times of joy or sadness?

See I am not setting for anything not no more that's how I wounded up in the world with my back turned against YH...

Blessed is the man1
who walks not in the counsel of the wicked,
nor stands in the way of sinners,
nor sits in the seat of scoffers;
2 but his delight is in the law2 of the LORD,
and on his law he meditates day and night.
3 He is like a tree
planted by streams of water
that yields its fruit in its season,
and its leaf does not wither.
In all that he does, he prospers.
4 The wicked are not so,
but are like chaff that the wind drives away.
5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous;
6 for the LORD knows the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked will perish.

Do not think I've only seen this in one temple or area or state or county for I wondered the streets of the world for a very long time...

It is not easy for me when Eva I walk past one of the temples n I wind up goin in I wind up leaving heartbroken all ova again

Twistie :broken_heart:


I understand what you are going through, I moved and was raised in a beautiful church... rather the environment and soul of the church was truly inspiring. Their was little people who attended and the Vickers that where their was modest and always looked out for the community. It was a shock when I noticed some inconsistencies with the new church I attended, I do say their was many people who attended however it was rather disheartening to see the difference. I will just list a few examples:

1. Many people came in 15-20 minutes late into the church, it was always open door however they would go to the middle and it would be a disturbance. It is great for people to attend.. however why be so loud during hymns. I have always believed that being on time to be with the Lord is important and shows respect... so would that not be disrespectful?
2. Their was a raffle at the end of the mass... for those who contributed to funds. Funds is one of those where if you can you should but not do so to receive a reward, it defines the objective of providing something to the church.
3. before the priests even left the room people was already leaving in front of the priests... I felt people was only going their as a 'routine' or 'impression' but no one actually ment it. My husband seemed to understand my sadness about it and discussed that some people portray themselves as christian and go to places because they are obligated whilst their are people who are true christians who follow faith in rightwous manner. The way people left was similar to how I wanted to leave when I was a child because I wanted the sunday dinner and was finished drawing my Noahs ark picture from the childrens section of the church.. it is understandable for children but for adults who understand and know..

I understood why my husband and others disliked going to church after this, I never thought this would be the case. INSTEAD!! I do what you did, I go to other churches on occasions to see if that church is deemed suitable along with my husband... however most Sundays I watch a Mass on youtube ( I have a favorite priest I have found who I love the teachings) and then Bible study and spend time with my Partner. I am aware many people will dislike the fact people that do not attend the church however I feel that after the pandemic and where their is a lack of true churches.. it is much easier and wiser to bring the church that you admire and feel connected to you through to your home. Even though it may not be a true communion God is everywhere and can provide you with guidance and scripture from the computer :)
Their are times I watch a mass on the computer but mimic the behaviors and what you would do to attend a mass and it feels more spiritually connecting then attending a mass physically.

Additionally with regards to acts of charity, their are many ways to complete this, you can become someone that christens can confide to and help online or help with a community just like this TalkJesus one or provide help in other ways. I understand it is disheartening to see many people and churches not BE true ... they are just PORTRAYING , however their are a few it is just the journey in finding those that a genuine. It impressed me when God provides us with a path in life and at first seeing such sadness I felt little understanding why God allows this and confused.. but then figured out why. We did not know that this can occur and instead of allowing ourselves to stay in a untrue church he gives us the eyes to see we need to find those that are true or that the particular church requires guidance in being true; depending on what your able to do.
Their is more to this however I believe I am rambling so I will stop,

I hope you have a nice day.

Winter
 
:broken_heart: Just remember, you arent there to be healed and refreshed in your spirit. It should be so, but the church is so broken, that its rarely the case. When the Lord asks us to go to some church, its because He wants us to do something there, try to keep going till at least you accomplish what the Lord wants you to do there.
I don't go to any temples unless I happen to see one while I'm at an appt.. I don't drive I can't walk far.. YH send people to us.. I literally have church almost everyday weather it be with my husband or my sone ova the phone or a stranger that I come in contact with..
Many think they gotta go n run out n plant seeds.. but the seed have been already planted... N as it is Written we Only Get what YH gives us.. Many out here trying to plant or grow seed where they have not been planted n Yeshua cause them wicked servants as it is written...

Idk I just sped my time with YH preparing for surgery.. a temple is the last thing on my mind at this point I can't b worrying how imma pay a Uber the get a temple on top of paying for Uber the go to a food bank or docs or testing for the surgery...

I just go through the doors that YH opens.. all one can do really..

Personally I enjoy spending time with the gang bangers the addicts n prostitutes n talking to them n eating with them when I can n talk about YH n let them see there is a light in this dark world..

His children are not told to go to a building and pay a man to repeat the words of the Word..
I hear Him tell me we r all equal no one above another.. it's mans pride that they gotta take on a title.

He says mine is a nation of Priest.. I have yet to see any pastor preparing his congregation for priesthood to b honest..

N to take money for speaking the Word? I see hired hands I see them stealing of the blind n the dead.. I don't remember Eva hearing the Messiah of staying in one place week after week collecting money for speaking YHs Word

We r told they can look at the sky n see the weather what kind of day it will be n yet they know not what season they r in..

YHs Word is Alive n YH speaks to His children He can communicate with us just as we r doing here frfr tho many will call me crazy for saying it or that I need some psychological help for thinking I hear YH n that's just how most peep r n I'm used to it to b honest..

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

One day His will all be together but as for now we r remnants as it is written we r scattered as it is written..

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

I see many love the Word christian ova Christ to b honest n many worship YH how they were taught n it's a tradition nothing more..

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world


Twistie
 
I understand what you are going through, I moved and was raised in a beautiful church... rather the environment and soul of the church was truly inspiring. Their was little people who attended and the Vickers that where their was modest and always looked out for the community. It was a shock when I noticed some inconsistencies with the new church I attended, I do say their was many people who attended however it was rather disheartening to see the difference. I will just list a few examples:

1. Many people came in 15-20 minutes late into the church, it was always open door however they would go to the middle and it would be a disturbance. It is great for people to attend.. however why be so loud during hymns. I have always believed that being on time to be with the Lord is important and shows respect... so would that not be disrespectful?
2. Their was a raffle at the end of the mass... for those who contributed to funds. Funds is one of those where if you can you should but not do so to receive a reward, it defines the objective of providing something to the church.
3. before the priests even left the room people was already leaving in front of the priests... I felt people was only going their as a 'routine' or 'impression' but no one actually ment it. My husband seemed to understand my sadness about it and discussed that some people portray themselves as christian and go to places because they are obligated whilst their are people who are true christians who follow faith in rightwous manner. The way people left was similar to how I wanted to leave when I was a child because I wanted the sunday dinner and was finished drawing my Noahs ark picture from the childrens section of the church.. it is understandable for children but for adults who understand and know..

I understood why my husband and others disliked going to church after this, I never thought this would be the case. INSTEAD!! I do what you did, I go to other churches on occasions to see if that church is deemed suitable along with my husband... however most Sundays I watch a Mass on youtube ( I have a favorite priest I have found who I love the teachings) and then Bible study and spend time with my Partner. I am aware many people will dislike the fact people that do not attend the church however I feel that after the pandemic and where their is a lack of true churches.. it is much easier and wiser to bring the church that you admire and feel connected to you through to your home. Even though it may not be a true communion God is everywhere and can provide you with guidance and scripture from the computer :)
Their are times I watch a mass on the computer but mimic the behaviors and what you would do to attend a mass and it feels more spiritually connecting then attending a mass physically.

Additionally with regards to acts of charity, their are many ways to complete this, you can become someone that christens can confide to and help online or help with a community just like this TalkJesus one or provide help in other ways. I understand it is disheartening to see many people and churches not BE true ... they are just PORTRAYING , however their are a few it is just the journey in finding those that a genuine. It impressed me when God provides us with a path in life and at first seeing such sadness I felt little understanding why God allows this and confused.. but then figured out why. We did not know that this can occur and instead of allowing ourselves to stay in a untrue church he gives us the eyes to see we need to find those that are true or that the particular church requires guidance in being true; depending on what your able to do.
Their is more to this however I believe I am rambling so I will stop,

I hope you have a nice day.

Winter
:love:
 
I don't go to any temples unless I happen to see one while I'm at an appt.. I don't drive I can't walk far.. YH send people to us.. I literally have church almost everyday weather it be with my husband or my sone ova the phone or a stranger that I come in contact with..
Many think they gotta go n run out n plant seeds.. but the seed have been already planted... N as it is Written we Only Get what YH gives us.. Many out here trying to plant or grow seed where they have not been planted n Yeshua cause them wicked servants as it is written...

Idk I just sped my time with YH preparing for surgery.. a temple is the last thing on my mind at this point I can't b worrying how imma pay a Uber the get a temple on top of paying for Uber the go to a food bank or docs or testing for the surgery...

I just go through the doors that YH opens.. all one can do really..

Personally I enjoy spending time with the gang bangers the addicts n prostitutes n talking to them n eating with them when I can n talk about YH n let them see there is a light in this dark world..

His children are not told to go to a building and pay a man to repeat the words of the Word..
I hear Him tell me we r all equal no one above another.. it's mans pride that they gotta take on a title.

He says mine is a nation of Priest.. I have yet to see any pastor preparing his congregation for priesthood to b honest..

N to take money for speaking the Word? I see hired hands I see them stealing of the blind n the dead.. I don't remember Eva hearing the Messiah of staying in one place week after week collecting money for speaking YHs Word

We r told they can look at the sky n see the weather what kind of day it will be n yet they know not what season they r in..

YHs Word is Alive n YH speaks to His children He can communicate with us just as we r doing here frfr tho many will call me crazy for saying it or that I need some psychological help for thinking I hear YH n that's just how most peep r n I'm used to it to b honest..

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

One day His will all be together but as for now we r remnants as it is written we r scattered as it is written..

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

I see many love the Word christian ova Christ to b honest n many worship YH how they were taught n it's a tradition nothing more..

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world


Twistie
If the Lord doesnt put it on your heart to do so, then thats fine. As long as you regularly get fellowship, and dont look down on the broken people who do attend church. They are as broken as you, just not as noticable, and sadly they often dont realize how broken they are, and church is more of a social club. But make no mistake on the matter, we are all broken, even the ones who dont think they are, usually they are the most broken and the most in need of healing.
 
If the Lord doesnt put it on your heart to do so, then thats fine. As long as you regularly get fellowship, and dont look down on the broken people who do attend church. They are as broken as you, just not as noticable, and sadly they often dont realize how broken they are, and church is more of a social club. But make no mistake on the matter, we are all broken, even the ones who dont think they are, usually they are the most broken and the most in need of healing.
Ya n only One can Heal them took me a long time before I turned to YH n not walk with my back to wards Him ya know?? He is such a loving Father all's one gotta do is have a relationship with Him..

His burden is much lighter then what the temples put on people.. I don't look down but I'm not gonna join in.. n 99.9 percent of the time I am told I can't b there anywho after my mouth starts pouring out the Truth.. n Truth is idk when it will open it just does idk it starts to burn in my bones n my heart n the burning just continues until out come the words.. no matter how I would try not to speak up it's like my mouth takes on a life of its own n when the words finish.. they say ya can't be here.. idk but I'm not one to even speak to people first to b honest I stand off n watch people... Always had a hard time speaking to people even as a child was just always by myself for the most part unless I was with my nanny n pop pop or aunt..

Twistie :broken_heart:
 
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