i want to let her go

[TheWidowsOffering]

dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

First of all i thank the Lord for the love of God our Father being expressed in this site. May HE bless TJ continually.

today I'm undergoing a tough decision regarding my cousin (the one posted at prayer request forum "where is my cousin?") who is living with me since December last year. but before i can give the whole picture please allow me to relate a short story.

Janice (17 y/o) is my cousin on the mother side. I never knew her really because we're living in quite a distance from their house. So i have no idea how she had grown.

I and my mother made a surprise visit to her younger sister (Janice' mother) last October 2007 and there i met Janice. I saw her very simple and silent teenager, very timid. I inquired of her life and her studies. And i got sad to know she doesn't even finish grade school due to her "hear loss". Because of her illness people taunt about her and become a cast away. This develop her a very weak personality.

I was moved with deep compassion so i encouraged her why shall not she continue to study? Age doesn't matter anyway when it comes to learning. But the people around them is hostile to their lives. she and her mother and other siblings are having hard times with the people's attitudes toward them. This pushed the young lady to work as a maid in Manila (our nation's capital city) and got some aid to her ears since both of her employers are doctors. She can hear a little bit. But one more sickness stricken her - got epileptic and some sort of ulcer also causing her to go home for a rest. I ask her how come she got epileptic since she's not before going to Manila. She said she got a fall from the fourth floor down to the ground floor in an spiral stair. And henceforth she's suffering this sickness. That's all she can remember. This was her condition when i got her with me.

I got some knowledge that our government has a Special Learning Program for out - of - school youth in one town of our province one time we went for a thanksgiving service. I told her and her mother about the matter and ask them that if God would permit, are they willing to let Janice be there. We have an aunt in that town where i usually ran before every time i run out of allowance while studying. (hehe) And the family was very generous. Janice and family was joyful and got a new hope because of the good news. So i encourage her to take a beautiful rest and just be ready if there's any progress about the matter. I'll be visiting them again soon. So i prayed to the Lord about the it.

November her elder brother called me asking for help to let him find a job in the city. It's so happen that the neighboring canteen was in need of a helper so he was admitted immediately. After two weeks Janice also called asking for a job because she cannot withstand the gossips of the surrounding people about her and her condition. Knowing her real condition i did not made any move but her brother did. In short she traveled in the city introduced by her elder brother's boss to a friend to be a maid. Just as expected Janice epilepsy and sickness manifested due to heavy work. So she has to be sent home for rest and recommended to have a check up. Due to lack of financial capability we were not be able to send her home immediately so i have to speak to her elder brother's boss to accommodate Janice for a while in the canteen, could volunteer to do some light jobs for her to be fed free of charge. Favor was granted.

That time i was informed by one of our co-workers in the church that she's been teaching in a non-formal education for out of school youths and interested adult individual for literacy. (what a coincidence). So i introduce Janice to her and admitted her gladly. The matter of letting her pursue schooling got a clearer direction. I talk to my Pastors in the church asking for a favor for Janice to stay for a while here with me in the church until Christmas vacation, again favor granted.

January this year she went back here in the City together with her brother but unfortunately the canteen beside us is non-profitable anymore so it has to close. so the two was transferred in one of our sister's in Christ canteen, below the church building, again talking to my pastors for Janice' stay with me since she's not in good working condition and she's entering school soon. I introduced her to the couples owning the canteen for the same situation Janice has at the neighboring canteen, and the couple was so generous knowing her real condition required her no more to be working heavily in the canteen food free of charge. A lot of favors!

So in short Janice was be able to avail the non-formal education also for free (one year for grade school and one more year for secondary). Once she past all exams she can have the privilege to have college if she wants someday. Through God's revelation, in a short period, i already guage Janice' potential and attitudes and character. In spite of knowing all these i kept her beside me, fed her and took care of her. She was that very shy to have meals downstairs so i have to take the responsibility. I have to stretch out fully my monthly allowance to meet our needs. Three times her epilepsy manifested and i discovered that her sickness was triggered when she's getting hurt or embarrassed, and when her ulcer also in in track. By God's grace, through some sorts or counseling and prayers, after her last attack, she no longer suffered the same sickness until now. An open rebuke can do now for her without getting epileptic anymore. Praise the Lord. Yet her acquity of hearing is still a little bit problem. I don't know if she intends not to hear sometimes especially when she doesn't want the things spoken.

A lot of negative attitudes needs to be dealt with her, most i have before so i was not hard up to deal with her. (hehe, thank God for her abundant grace to me). But there's one thing i hated her doing a couple of times. Going anywhere without any notice just go home in time she wanted. She knew i doesn't like this thing that much not that i hated it but because she is my responsibility and i am accountable for her before her family. I talked to her once yet did it again. So i gave her an ultimatum of three more offense of the same mistake i would let her back to her family.

Some days ago before the ultimatum was given, she confessed about her sins of lying many times to me every time i ask her where had she been? what did she do? The terrible thing is stealing some church fund I'm keeping. I never knew these things because i trusted her the same trust the Pastors gave me in staying in the church. I have to entrust her the key of the steel cabinet so that when my pastor would need some important documents, he shall have access from the files. The funds inside the cabinet. I don't know what to say. She's crying and trembling while confessing all these things. She told me I can do whatever i wanted to do to her and can even send her home if i want only one thing she asked, i should not let anyone know about this matter. (Please treat this part with an open mind, i wish not to degrade my cousin). I'm about to be audited regarding the funds. She asked for forgiveness. I said only one thing, "Since u said u r already forgiven by God and confessed Him ur sins, who am i not to forgive?" But inside me i cannot know what to say really, even before God. I prayed over her that night. The early months she is with me she confessed the same thing she deed (stealing from er first employer due to difficult situation- according to her story she has to leave her employer for she was treated badly before having the doctors as her second employer). I ran to God in silence in knowing all these. Now I have to face the auditor and my pastor. I just admitted i used the money for some reasons bearing the shame.

Now I want to let her go not because of the said offenses but due to her current activities right now. Most of the time I'm out of the city for mission purposes. She's been under observation and in grounds because of what happened to her, she was lost for two days and two nights carried away by a tricycle driver who attempted to rape her but was able to escape (according to her story). Going back home helpless and restless. One of the police who investigated her said her testimies are doubtful. After this incident I decided to send her back to her family but she said she wanted to finish her study. Her mother came that day and speak also to our pastors affirming she would like Janice be here because she'll be getting better here than going back in town. Behind my decision I'm praying for Janice for I also want her finish schooling. I said Lord if the incident was really true be the one to decide for Janice. Not me, not the pastors and let her finish her studies. If it is not send her home. We thank God that she recovered immediately from the trauma (her fast recovery gave now also one ground to doubt her testimony) and this incident made her become more responsible now. I've seen her improvements and she's no longer a burden to me today because she learnt to work now for daily living and some sort of allowance was given to her by the couples downstairs. I thank the Lord because of this.

But I'm distress with the reports about her activities the time I'm out for
town. Bro. Raffy, my co-staff also living in the church told me she discovered Janice good in making stories (through messaging by cellphones). Janice not knowing the one she's talking about was in front of her. I observed and even my colleagues here she's not really that serious to her studies. She invited one youth one time in their youth gathering overnight telling she's a friend. They found out the friend was also a liar for the following days her mother came looking for her, the group thought she was studying, yet the fact is not according to the mother. Her testimonies about the attempted rape case was reviewed and more doubts are coming due to what Bro. Raffy discovered about her. They said the tings I've seen that day from her perhaps just a front. She was not really lost nor there is an attempted rape case.

I'm planning to talk to Janice but I don't know where to enter. Every night she's sleeping very late because of her cell phones. I don't know whom she's communicating with. One factor of her sickness before was due to sleepless nights also when she was in Manila. I already reminded her about this.

One more issue playing in my mind, If the Lord have been that very patient to mold me this way today, am i not also to be patient for Janice? I admit I've gone through different people because also of some if not a lot of negative attitudes but the Lord did not surrender me. I've learned more, more and learning more and more of His grace. I'm only concerned what the people around is telling me. I am accountable to her. They are accountable to her. The Pastors are accountable to her. The church is accountable to her. If something undesirable thing would happen to her we are all at stake. Me, them, the pastors, the church, the Lord and His name. These all i can hear now.


Please help i need guidance. Sorry for the very long story also.

I prayed while ago before posting this thread because I am reluctant to write it. After praying i got the peace so i was able to write now.

I'm also wondering what God has to tell me about this situation. Any exhortation about this beloved brethren? These Scriptures pop up into my mind while praying.

"Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever." Daniel 12:3

"I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent." Luke 15:7

Does these Scriptures imply I have still to keep Janice with me in spite of the bad reports?

Thank you brothers and sisters for your kind replies.

God bless us more.




In Christ,



Sis. Reymielin

 

[Brother Mike]

Janice.... that Janice.. What to do.

Do what I tell you reymielin !!!

We have a young teenage girl, low self esteem, no discipline in life, not really wanted by anyone, Leaves when she wants, lies, money is tight, hard to take care of.
IN the United States there would be lots and lots more options, but were not in the United States.
However, God is everywhere.
To keep it short, I will use scripture, but not post, if you want the scripture, then let me know, I would be more than happy to give them.

You quoted:

The church is accountable to her. If something undesirable thing would happen to her we are all at stake. Me, them, the pastors, the church, the Lord and His name. These all i can hear now.

First, this comment came out of FEAR!!! This girl needs someone to believe for her and her safety.
Look at Job, he sacrificed for his children continually. He was afraid that their wrong doing would get them hurt or killed. Job did not even know if they were doing wrong. He made his sacrifice to the Lord out of fear of losing something. Notice the outcome? It did not work for Job and praying over and over out of fear of loss that a loved one be protected can end up with the same results Job had. Dead and missing children......
Notice what Job said in Job 3:25 "Those things I feared most CAME!!!!"

Are you accountable for her, did you create her? Did you plan and purpose her life? Was she created to serve you? NO.........God made her, for his plan and purpose, he will see to it that it will be fulfilled, lets get in faith for that. She may be young, but she does not listen, she puts herself in a place that you have little control. I know someone that can take control if we cast the care over to him......... Someone that will watch her, and keep her ways. Thank you Jesus!!!! for your faithfulness.

Lets settle this. Lets agree on God's Word and thank him for sending his word so that we may be healed and delivered from our destruction and mess.

Satan, we rebuke you and all your influence over Janice. We stand to love her despite all that she has done and may do. We command you to take your hands off of her. She is not yours. You will not longer blind her mind to the glorious gospel of Christ.

Father we thank you, You said pray that laborers may be sent into the harvest. We obey that order, and ask that laborers be sent in the path of Janice, those you know she will listen to, those that can impact her life with the power of your Word. We also ask the Holy Ghost to convict of sin, that Janice will not longer be able to freely lie, and steal doing things that will harm and destroy her life. We believe and know that as you work on Janice, she will want to flee those things that can harm her, see will see the truth about it, and make right choices. Thank you Holy Ghost for your witness on earth!!!

Father we speak perfect protections over Janice. You promised Father that no evil shall befall us, that no weapon formed against us shall prosper, that you said nothing by any means shall hurt us. angels we command that you go forth and surround Janice, keeping her feet out of trouble. Lord we believe that the fear of the Lord radiates from your angels to those that would even think of harming Janice, Just a thought of harm to her will send them away in fear.
Father we thank you, and consider this done, that your faithful to perform your word in our life without fail. We know that nothing is impossible to you and we do fully believe..... We settle this matter in the Mighty name of our Lord, we settle this in the name of Jesus!!!

Now, keep this in fount of you, never let it slip........When doubts come, thank the Lord for being faithful and tell the devil you not moved by what you see or hear.

I have to stretch out fully my monthly allowance to meet our needs.

It is easy to get your mind on money. God said he is the one that supply's your need. This thinking does not come overnight. If you need more teaching on this, then let me know.

said only one thing, "Since u said u r already forgiven by God and confessed Him ur sins, who am i not to forgive?"

Forgiveness does not include allowing someone to be disobedient. We can forgive and love, but not empower a wrong way of life. The rules should be laid out.
forgiving someone and still feeling responsible for them can hinder true forgiveness and cause frustration. Depending on your faith, continue to take care of her, but if she leaves, or does her own thing, then remember we just prayed for her. We need God involved in every step anyway.

Never again mention her lying, or wrong doings. This is hard, but we can drive someone away who feels that all they do is disappoint someone that has shown them love. Show Janice, that it is impossible for her to disappoint you. We are trusting God to do the fixing now. We are at peace. So what if she lies again, or does wrong, we are looking at the outcome of our prayer, not the deeds of the flesh.
God is sending people she will listen to.........She is young, wisdom will come, lets believe for it.

God Bless.....
Jesus Is Lord......

 

[TheWidowsOffering]

thanks for the insights and prayers

dear bro mike,

thanks a lot for the inputs and prayers.

Do what I tell you reymielin !!!

We have a young teenage girl, low self esteem, no discipline in life, not really wanted by anyone, Leaves when she wants, lies, money is tight, hard to take care of.
IN the United States there would be lots and lots more options, but were not in the United States.
However, God is everywhere.
To keep it short, I will use scripture, but not post, if you want the scripture, then let me know, I would be more than happy to give them.

You quoted:


First, this comment came out of FEAR!!! This girl needs someone to believe for her and her safety.


> this too i believe bro. but because she is my cousin i can't just ignore the situation today that's why i have to seek guidance or more possible grounds to deepen my faith and conviction.


Are you accountable for her, did you create her? Did you plan and purpose her life? Was she created to serve you? NO.........God made her, for his plan and purpose, he will see to it that it will be fulfilled, lets get in faith for that. She may be young, but she does not listen, she puts herself in a place that you have little control. I know someone that can take control if we cast the care over to him......... Someone that will watch her, and keep her ways. Thank you Jesus!!!! for your faithfulness.


Lets settle this. Lets agree on God's Word and thank him for sending his word so that we may be healed and delivered from our destruction and mess.

> are you saying in this that it's God who brings Janice beside me? i thank you for the prayer bro.

Now, keep this in fount of you, never let it slip........When doubts come, thank the Lord for being faithful and tell the devil you not moved by what you see or hear.

> Janice is in the series of exams now for the grade level. If she past these, she will be accelerated in the secondary level, I'm thinking, if she fails, that would be one ground of sending her home.


It is easy to get your mind on money. God said he is the one that supply's your need. This thinking does not come overnight. If you need more teaching on this, then let me know.

> haha. You're really like a send paper bro as sis. julia said in one thread. It's good God has already delivered me of becoming over sensitive, if not, i might hold a grudge on you.:shaderaise the Lord! But anyway send papers are good, they are used for refining furnitures. hehe. but u have not known yet my real situation why i have to tell about my alllowance. and of course that's again another topic. hehe.. any way thank you! I believe u just want to exhort even.


Forgiveness does not include allowing someone to be disobedient. We can forgive and love, but not empower a wrong way of life. The rules should be laid out.
forgiving someone and still feeling responsible for them can hinder true forgiveness and cause frustration. Depending on your faith, continue to take care of her, but if she leaves, or does her own thing, then remember we just prayed for her. We need God involved in every step anyway.

> amen bro. my PAstor also told me that thing. Actually i told my Pastor about what she had confessed (only him) and asked also some sorts of guidance and he told the same thing u said.

Never again mention her lying, or wrong doings.
This is hard, but we can drive someone away who feels that all they do is disappoint someone that has shown them love. Show Janice, that it is impossible for her to disappoint you. We are trusting God to do the fixing now. We are at peace. So what if she lies again, or does wrong, we are looking at the outcome of our prayer, not the deeds of the flesh.
God is sending people she will listen to.........She is young, wisdom will come, lets believe for it.

> i think i really need wisdom about this bro mike. Because i did really don't know how shall i show Janice, that it is impossible for her to disappoint me.


God Bless.....
Jesus Is Lord......

thanks a lot bro. a very insightful answer. God bless you more!


In Christ,


Sis. Reymielin

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:16

Dear sister reymielin

My first thought when I read this post yesterday was...how truly blessed your cousin Janice is to have your abundant Christian love and care dear sister.

I have prayed and will continue to pray that the Lord will richly bless you in dealing with this situation, to His glory. That the Holy Spirit will close all the doors that aren't within the Lords will......and that you will be clearly guided by Him in all your communications with Janice, and regarding the situation at your church.

I understand by just re-reading the prayer thread that she is saved? But what a messy tangle her heart is in.....and I commit her to the Lord so that she may make Him Lord of her life.

If ye suffer for righteousness sake, happy are ye....For it is better if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing
1 Peter 3: 14, 17

And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose
Romans 8:28

Dear sister, I know this is only a few words, not much in the way of councelling/advise....but I will continue to pray....knowing that the Lord is working through your life and that all things wil come together according to His divine will and to His glory.

God bless you dear sister reymielin

Julia

 

[TheWidowsOffering]

dear sis. julia,

God bless you more in praying always with us here at TJ.

"The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself." Proverbs 11:25

Thank you for your prayers beloved sister in Christ. The Lord alone be glorified in all these and to all answers of our prayers.

I have not spoken to janice yet, still seeking an opportunity and to know the right things for her and how to put things right also. May the Lord guard me and guide me also. Thank you Lord.

Thanks also for the verses sis. I'm deeply touch. Praise the Lord. I'm gaining at least insights now through each and every ones reply.


"The unfolding of your words (LOrd) gives light; it gives understanding to the simple."

Thank you Lord. Amen


Bless you always sister Julia.


In Christ,


Sis. Reymielin

 

[beam]

Greetings to you in Jesus precious name sister Reymielin,

I am not going to give you direct advice but I am going to share with you the situation I was in, and other things i am currently learning. I will not go into detail as I told the Lord I will not keep re-opening the "surgery" and re-hashing things over and over, it is done, and in about a week of my decision, I saw fantastic positive results for my obedience in other areas of my life and my families life come to pass.

By faith i loose the word of God over you and into your life..I ask that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, give you, Reymielin the Spirit of wisdom and revelation so that you may know Him better and what His will is in your situation in Jesus name - Amen

I have been friends with someone for 18 years. I met her when my eldest son was 2, he is now 20. She confesses Jesus and our discussions about the Lord were growing. She was beginning to ask questions and would listen when i would speak about the gospel of Christ to her. I however did have quite a few really disturbing dreams about her. I did not at the time think they were warnings from the Lord but put them down to familiar spirits harrasing me in my dreams and my own insecurities!

Then a christian friend of the family (who had met her in person once) dropped a bombshell, the Lord had given him a message for me, I was to break my friendship with her or suffer severe repercussions in the future! He was also seeing her face when he was busy praying for us. My friend does not drink, is not into clubbing, and is a lady of note! Although i did know that she was mixed up in something she claims to no longer be mixed up in. In the natural i could see nothing really threatening from her.

Boy, was I thrown into the 'valley of decisions'. I started becoming a bit frantic, How would i do this, did i even need to do this, was this definately from God???? Wouldn't this just turn her against christianity for good, wouldn't this just cut her so deep in her heart, what type of a friend will she think I am, God said love your enemies, (and she wasn't even that), God said love never fails, (one thing my friend knows for sure is my love for God and her) God said even if you feed one of the least of these you are doing it to me.....so many things seemed contrary! But one scripture stayed in my mind, what do light and darkness have in common, we cannot drink from the same cup as God and demons! But there were still very many...buts...

So i weighed a few things up, I have heard so many times that the Lord will confirm things at least 3x to us. (not sure if there is scripture to back that up).

-What was the family friend's, relationship with the Lord like? -EXCELLENT
-Did he have anything to gain by this? -ABSOLUTELY NOT
-Did he hear from God? - I KNEW IN MY SPIRIT THE LORD TOLD HIM THIS
-How often does he hear from God? - DAILY - I SEE IT WITH MY OWN EYES
-Has God warned me in any other way as well? - YES, THE DREAMS AND A PREVIOUS GENTLE WARNING FROM THE FAMILY FRIEND
-what was my deep gut instinct? - BETTER OBEY GOD, HE KNOWS BEST
-what does the word say? - MANY THINGS, BUT OF ALL THE SCRIPTURES COMING UP QUICKLY IN MY MIND THERE WAS THAT ONE SCRIPTURE THAT JUST STAYED

I chewed and stewed, even argued with this man of God and became angry with him because he could not give me more information. I also got into unforgiveness with my husband, then i could not talk to God because i did not want to forgive because i was by now having one full blown pity party! whew talk about 'being entangled in sin' then to put the cherry on the cake i deliberately sinned, I coldly deliberated to call a new born christian away from a prayer meeting to listen to my woes and puke all my junk onto her! (sorry for the strong word, but that is what we do when we slander and gossip about others, it's just puke coming out, that's why it's not good to listen to slander or gossip either because then you are being puked upon) LOL LOL that is the truth. so nowadays when i recognize slander or gossip or any other puke coming my way I make a duck for I do not want to be puked upon) Eeeuuu! LOL

I then decided to do some research on soul ties and transference of spirits and my eyes were opened to just some of the danger. Eventually God by His grace brought me back to my senses, I had faith that God would take care of things from here on out, so I took a big bite of humble pie, asked forgiveness and made peace all round and did what i knew by now in my heart needed to be done, although God still has not given me all the details. I let her go, I phoned and very sadly said "The Lord has told me to stay away from you for a while, i am not sure for how long, i don't mean to hurt you but I must obey God.

And this was when i had my third confirmation, she just calmly replied "okay". She did not go bezerk as i imagined, and then in my heart i knew that she knew that God knew what things she was busy with that i did not know all about. And because of 'soul ties' (our close friendship allowed me to sypathize with her alot and thereby sympathize with ungodly things) I felt sad but not remorsefully or regretably so. I finally had peace i had done the right thing after all. This happened about 4 weeks ago.

The other thing i am currently learning about is not to 'play God in people's lives'. I was quite offended when i was told that this is what i do alot, all i can see what i do alot, is give food, money, time, prayer and friendship to people...how dare they......be right!!!!!

I admitted that i did feel very responsible and worry for the people i met in such awful situations. A 64 year old lady living a tiny room, outside toilet, not even water or elecricity in the room! But boy did she play me! I even justified that one....if they want your cloak give them your shirt also, if they ask you to walk one mile walk two...

I realized a few things
1) people must know God as their source and not other people
2) people are God's responsiblity not mine, I will however love them enough to let them go
3) people have their own wills, even Adam and Eva still had a choice and when they chose wrong the had to go out from where they were
4) When i worry about others, i begin to take responsibility for another's life, Each individual (not children) is accountable to God for their own lives, Adam and Eva were responsible for their choices not God.
5) Worry is sin, it is fear.
6)the devil is the great manipulator
7) Jesus said go out and make disciples (not dependants) - so that they can make disciples and they can make disciples and so on and so on

HOWEVER for every situation I will always need God's discernment and for that i will need to stay in a close relationship with my saviour so that i may hear my shepherds voice when He speak.

God bless you with much discernment, wisdom to know the right choices to make and strength to execute them in your life in Jesus mighty name - Amen

Yours in Christ
beam

 

[Brother Mike]

Ok.......

Well, I did not mean a book, but it was a book.

> are you saying in this that it's God who brings Janice beside me? i thank you for the prayer bro.

No sister, I am saying believe what I prayed, and let God take care of her.
I will always come from a faith angle and God's word can not fail. You need rest from this, and faith rest.....


I perceived you need more revelation about money, and how God does and will abundantly supply. faith does not look at allowance but what God can do. He lives on streets paved with gold... The money thing is something you could look into. I got information to help your faith if interested.

> amen bro. my PAstor also told me that thing. Actually i told my Pastor about what she had confessed (only him) and asked also some sorts of guidance and he told the same thing u said.

I try to be spirit led as much as possible, Things that witness each other need to be paid attention to. Your Pastor and I agree with the Spirit of God in us. Your pastor should be your main guide though.

> i think i really need wisdom about this bro mike. Because i did really don't know how shall i show Janice, that it is impossible for her to disappoint me.

That's easy Sister, keep your mouth shut!!!! (notice the smiley, notice the smiley)

That is why I gave the pray Sister. If it is not in you to keep dealing with her, we need to get in faith, and let God take care of it, trusting Him. We want her safe, and to feel loved. I know she can be a pain, so more love. It is hard to witness to those that know us. We believe God to send people in her path, that she will listen to.
There are some things we just can't do or see how it is possible to even afford. We do not want to be in bondage, for something God said and promised to do. I want you to have peace, and Janice to see the light.
I am not telling you to keep her around, but I am telling you to believe God. He never fails.........

also, reading Beam's post, she has some great things to say along with Julia.

This will get sorted in a few hours....

Sorry if I came across strong......


Jesus Is Lord.

 

[TheWidowsOffering]

dear sister beam,

the thing u shared exactly illustrates mine in few days regarding Janice. I'm not a person who longed to always monitor people and all they do, even the closest person to my heart. But this promptings came week ago that i should have some querries about what's going on now with my cousin. About soul tie? Yes, am also being reminded of it, very slight in my spirit? i don't think so, and am about to review it.

Thanks sister for sharing ur story. It is still another side of the triangle to consider.

Thank you also for your prayers. I hope so I could here again from God about this matter aside from your insight and others input.

May the Lord continue to guide. Thank you Lord. Amen

God bless you richly.


In Christ,


Sis. Reymielin

Greetings to you in Jesus precious name sister Reymielin,

I am not going to give you direct advice but I am going to share with you the situation I was in, and other things i am currently learning. I will not go into detail as I told the Lord I will not keep re-opening the "surgery" and re-hashing things over and over, it is done, and in about a week of my decision, I saw fantastic positive results for my obedience in other areas of my life and my families life come to pass.

By faith i loose the word of God over you and into your life..I ask that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, give you, Reymielin the Spirit of wisdom and revelation so that you may know Him better and what His will is in your situation in Jesus name - Amen

I have been friends with someone for 18 years. I met her when my eldest son was 2, he is now 20. She confesses Jesus and our discussions about the Lord were growing. She was beginning to ask questions and would listen when i would speak about the gospel of Christ to her. I however did have quite a few really disturbing dreams about her. I did not at the time think they were warnings from the Lord but put them down to familiar spirits harrasing me in my dreams and my own insecurities!

Then a christian friend of the family (who had met her in person once) dropped a bombshell, the Lord had given him a message for me, I was to break my friendship with her or suffer severe repercussions in the future! He was also seeing her face when he was busy praying for us. My friend does not drink, is not into clubbing, and is a lady of note! Although i did know that she was mixed up in something she claims to no longer be mixed up in. In the natural i could see nothing really threatening from her.

Boy, was I thrown into the 'valley of decisions'. I started becoming a bit frantic, How would i do this, did i even need to do this, was this definately from God???? Wouldn't this just turn her against christianity for good, wouldn't this just cut her so deep in her heart, what type of a friend will she think I am, God said love your enemies, (and she wasn't even that), God said love never fails, (one thing my friend knows for sure is my love for God and her) God said even if you feed one of the least of these you are doing it to me.....so many things seemed contrary! But one scripture stayed in my mind, what do light and darkness have in common, we cannot drink from the same cup as God and demons! But there were still very many...buts...

So i weighed a few things up, I have heard so many times that the Lord will confirm things at least 3x to us. (not sure if there is scripture to back that up).

-What was the family friend's, relationship with the Lord like? -EXCELLENT
-Did he have anything to gain by this? -ABSOLUTELY NOT
-Did he hear from God? - I KNEW IN MY SPIRIT THE LORD TOLD HIM THIS
-How often does he hear from God? - DAILY - I SEE IT WITH MY OWN EYES
-Has God warned me in any other way as well? - YES, THE DREAMS AND A PREVIOUS GENTLE WARNING FROM THE FAMILY FRIEND
-what was my deep gut instinct? - BETTER OBEY GOD, HE KNOWS BEST
-what does the word say? - MANY THINGS, BUT OF ALL THE SCRIPTURES COMING UP QUICKLY IN MY MIND THERE WAS THAT ONE SCRIPTURE THAT JUST STAYED

I chewed and stewed, even argued with this man of God and became angry with him because he could not give me more information. I also got into unforgiveness with my husband, then i could not talk to God because i did not want to forgive because i was by now having one full blown pity party! whew talk about 'being entangled in sin' then to put the cherry on the cake i deliberately sinned, I coldly deliberated to call a new born christian away from a prayer meeting to listen to my woes and puke all my junk onto her! (sorry for the strong word, but that is what we do when we slander and gossip about others, it's just puke coming out, that's why it's not good to listen to slander or gossip either because then you are being puked upon) LOL LOL that is the truth. so nowadays when i recognize slander or gossip or any other puke coming my way I make a duck for I do not want to be puked upon) Eeeuuu! LOL

I then decided to do some research on soul ties and transference of spirits and my eyes were opened to just some of the danger. Eventually God by His grace brought me back to my senses, I had faith that God would take care of things from here on out, so I took a big bite of humble pie, asked forgiveness and made peace all round and did what i knew by now in my heart needed to be done, although God still has not given me all the details. I let her go, I phoned and very sadly said "The Lord has told me to stay away from you for a while, i am not sure for how long, i don't mean to hurt you but I must obey God.

And this was when i had my third confirmation, she just calmly replied "okay". She did not go bezerk as i imagined, and then in my heart i knew that she knew that God knew what things she was busy with that i did not know all about. And because of 'soul ties' (our close friendship allowed me to sypathize with her alot and thereby sympathize with ungodly things) I felt sad but not remorsefully or regretably so. I finally had peace i had done the right thing after all. This happened about 4 weeks ago.

The other thing i am currently learning about is not to 'play God in people's lives'. I was quite offended when i was told that this is what i do alot, all i can see what i do alot, is give food, money, time, prayer and friendship to people...how dare they......be right!!!!!

I admitted that i did feel very responsible and worry for the people i met in such awful situations. A 64 year old lady living a tiny room, outside toilet, not even water or elecricity in the room! But boy did she play me! I even justified that one....if they want your cloak give them your shirt also, if they ask you to walk one mile walk two...

I realized a few things
1) people must know God as their source and not other people
2) people are God's responsiblity not mine, I will however love them enough to let them go
3) people have their own wills, even Adam and Eva still had a choice and when they chose wrong the had to go out from where they were
4) When i worry about others, i begin to take responsibility for another's life, Each individual (not children) is accountable to God for their own lives, Adam and Eva were responsible for their choices not God.
5) Worry is sin, it is fear.
6)the devil is the great manipulator
7) Jesus said go out and make disciples (not dependants) - so that they can make disciples and they can make disciples and so on and so on

HOWEVER for every situation I will always need God's discernment and for that i will need to stay in a close relationship with my saviour so that i may hear my shepherds voice when He speak.

God bless you with much discernment, wisdom to know the right choices to make and strength to execute them in your life in Jesus mighty name - Amen

Yours in Christ
beam

 

[TheWidowsOffering]

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hmmm.. bro. mike i cannot add any more to your reply. hehehe

More blessingssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I did not mean a book, but it was a book.

No sister, I am saying believe what I prayed, and let God take care of her.
I will always come from a faith angle and God's word can not fail. You need rest from this, and faith rest.....


I perceived you need more revelation about money, and how God does and will abundantly supply. faith does not look at allowance but what God can do. He lives on streets paved with gold... The money thing is something you could look into. I got information to help your faith if interested.

> ok bro. try sending me some insight though. i'll try to study. hehe
God bless you more..

I try to be spirit led as much as possible, Things that witness each other need to be paid attention to. Your Pastor and I agree with the Spirit of God in us. Your pastor should be your main guide though.

That's easy Sister, keep your mouth shut!!!! (notice the smiley, notice the smiley)

That is why I gave the pray Sister. If it is not in you to keep dealing with her, we need to get in faith, and let God take care of it, trusting Him. We want her safe, and to feel loved. I know she can be a pain, so more love. It is hard to witness to those that know us. We believe God to send people in her path, that she will listen to.
There are some things we just can't do or see how it is possible to even afford. We do not want to be in bondage, for something God said and promised to do. I want you to have peace, and Janice to see the light.
I am not telling you to keep her around, but I am telling you to believe God. He never fails.........

also, reading Beam's post, she has some great things to say along with Julia.

This will get sorted in a few hours....

Sorry if I came across strong......


Jesus Is Lord.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. 2 Timothy 2:24-26

Dear sister reymielin

I have prayed for you and Janice throughout the day. And continually the words love, gentleness and kindness have been fixed in my heart. Our beloved Lord Jesus was kind and gentle.... His love is in our hearts....its there to shine out to the world and those in need.

Janice is a young Christian, and by the way you describe her, she is so very mixed up. Now the devil will seek to divide and separate....he will do his utmost to drag Janice away from you....because you are a threat to him and his evil workings. Bless Janice with your spirit of Christian love, kindness, tenderheartedness and compassion...so that she is drawn to the love of Christ shining from your heart.

Shine brightly for the Lord Jesus sister reymielin.....show unconditional love....love never fails. As brother Mike said commit all to the Lord...He cannot fail.

Thou hast also given me the shield of Thy salvation: and Thy right hand hath holden me up, and Thy gentleness hath made me great
Psalm 18:35

Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer Romans 12:12

The Lord bless you dear sister

Julia

 

[TheWidowsOffering]

rested in God's peace

dear sister julia and to all,

i thank you for all the prayers and inputs about tis situation. They gave me strength and peace.

last night i just stood in prayer for janice as Bro. Mike has said "She needs someone to believe and to stand for her" [to God be the glory Bro.] and thank you for standing with me brothers and sisters.

i just presented to God all your prayers and Scriptures and God reaffirms His Word to me (the first two verses given in the oroginal post). So i just claimed Janice being led in God's righteousness.

"Not my my own might nor by my own power, but by the Spirit of God." Zechariah 4:6

God has not planned to harm me through Janice but to prosper me, to give me a hope and a future (Jeremiah 29:11) Bro. MIke has been true that this concern has been out of fear.. Inflicted fear by the devil because of the reports i heard and the things i see. I must live by faith for Janice and not by sight.

Last verse God gave me last night Psalm 46:10 "Be still and know that I am God."

> brother mike, i have to keep my mouth shut? hehe

I just claimed every good thing for her especially her studies and exams this October 19. She's having a concern to her Birth Certificate because without it she will be denied to participate in the opportunity. Though chances are little for her to have now but I believe that if God had blessed her, He will continue blessing Janice. I just committed my life to God and Janice. I thank the Lord for His peace right now.


>>Sis beam, thanks for your sharing about soul tie, i prayed about it last night and still come to review for streamlining on my part if it is not for now still for future use. :wink: God bless you more in your closer walk with the Lord. Thanks also for your prayers.


Still I have not spoken yet to her but I still agree with Bro, Mike God will send righteous people Janice listens to if not me. hehe.

I should still let God continually decide for her. Not me, not them, not my sight nor the devil but God alone. To God be the Glory

Thanks a lot beloved brothers and sisters in Christ for your prayers.

God bless us more. God bless TJ..



In Christ,


Sis. Reymielin


"Now to Him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according, according to is power that is at work within us, to Him be glory in the Church and in Christ Jesus throuh all generations, for ever and ever. Amen

Now, faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Hebrews 11:1


Thank you Lord. Amen
Praise the LOrd.:clapping:

And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. 2 Timothy 2:24-26

Dear sister reymielin

I have prayed for you and Janice throughout the day. And continually the words love, gentleness and kindness have been fixed in my heart. Our beloved Lord Jesus was kind and gentle.... His love is in our hearts....its there to shine out to the world and those in need.

Janice is a young Christian, and by the way you describe her, she is so very mixed up. Now the devil will seek to divide and separate....he will do his utmost to drag Janice away from you....because you are a threat to him and his evil workings. Bless Janice with your spirit of Christian love, kindness, tenderheartedness and compassion...so that she is drawn to the love of Christ shining from your heart.

Shine brightly for the Lord Jesus sister reymielin.....show unconditional love....love never fails. As brother Mike said commit all to the Lord...He cannot fail.

Thou hast also given me the shield of Thy salvation: and Thy right hand hath holden me up, and Thy gentleness hath made me great
Psalm 18:35

Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer Romans 12:12

The Lord bless you dear sister

Julia

Thanks a lot beloved sis julia.

Genesis 12:3 "I will bless those who bless you."

 

[sandman]

all pray for you ray.

You know me.My dad asked me to leave home when i was that age..ask is a better word then he used.ha ha.This is a hard one to help you with.If i could spell better i could write a book about this matter ya no', So all pray for both of you ok.................... buddy