I'm a bit shy of being baptized this Saturday, help me!

[Stylez4Christ]

Ok, at the same time I am a bit nervous because since my church isn’t traditional but a non-denominational church because it is not like people going to be wearing white clothing but there going to be swimming after Baptism but I don’t like showing my skin in public because I’m am type of an person where he is shy of going in the water with people he he heeeee. No..

I am excited at the same time because I was only baptize as a Roman Catholic and I been waiting for ever since I was save for a mouth until I realize I need to get Baptize but now I’m going to be baptize as a Christian but, accept I’m not that comfortable because I wonder what they think when I’m in the water with cloths on and I am concern that they will say how come you can’t take off your shirt and I don’t want that question lol… But I want to know a bit about being baptize because I don’t really remember about it but very little of it but I don’t come to get baptize without much of the meaning of being baptizes.

 

[Cody]

Hey brother, I'd be kind of weird about showing skin also. lol When I got baptized, I was fully dressed. So I believe you should be alright with wearing clothes and a shirt.

Baptism is publicly saying your sins are washed away. Although baptism isn't necessary for salvation, I believe when we are baptized, we are being obedient to God.

Right before the preacher puts you in the water he'll say something like, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." Then after that they sing some songs and have fellowship. It's been awhile since I've been baptized, but it's probably different with every church.

God Bless

 

[Stylez4Christ]

Well, the cool part there doing is a cook out but thank you so much for the info

 

[Cody]

That should be good. Save me some food! lol just kidding. You're welcome and God Bless

 

[Faithful Son]

Hi brothers Cody, I agree with you.

My baptism took place in the house I live in now, two years ago to be exact.
I was fully clothed and they filled the bath until it overflowed.

A pastor baptized me and he kept on saying how honored he felt that he was the one baptizing me. I remember being very quiet and I kept praying inside my head.

Baptism is not required for salvation, that's true. But my life after baptism is totally different than before. The effect of God and His miraculous Hand over my life is extremely visible to me after baptism.

I would recommend it to anyone who does it for the correct intension, not just to be accepted by a church or group. Do it for your relationship with Jesus, first and only for that reason.

Brother Stylez, I will keep you in prayer and I will pray that God blesses you for your faithfulness!

Much love
Faithful Son

 

[trulyblezzed]

Stylez you should be straight with just keeping your clothes on. Maybe they will let you wear like basketball shorts and a t-shirt or something so it's not that heavy when you come out soaking wet. I got baptized fully dressed. Did they tell you that you have to be shirtless??

 

[Stylez4Christ]

Stylez you should be straight with just keeping your clothes on. Maybe they will let you wear like basketball shorts and a t-shirt or something so it's not that heavy when you come out soaking wet. I got baptized fully dressed. Did they tell you that you have to be shirtless??

No, but I just don't want to stress on taking my shirt off I'm shy but I do have a feeling that somemen going to take theres off but I'm going to put 2 shirt on, I must of got penteccostal taste to it because they wear white so who knows what I'm going to wear lol:embarasse

 

[LikeJesus]

Ok, at the same time I am a bit nervous because since my church isn’t traditional but a non-denominational church because it is not like people going to be wearing white clothing but there going to be swimming after Baptism but I don’t like showing my skin in public because I’m am type of an person where he is shy of going in the water with people he he heeeee. No..

I am excited at the same time because I was only baptize as a Roman Catholic and I been waiting for ever since I was save for a mouth until I realize I need to get Baptize but now I’m going to be baptize as a Christian but, accept I’m not that comfortable because I wonder what they think when I’m in the water with cloths on and I am concern that they will say how come you can’t take off your shirt and I don’t want that question lol… But I want to know a bit about being baptize because I don’t really remember about it but very little of it but I don’t come to get baptize without much of the meaning of being baptizes.

John babtized in water.Jesus babtizes in living water,the holy spirit.Ask Jesus to fill you with His living water according to The Book of Acts 2:4.

 

[Faithful Son]

Matthew 3:11 NKJV
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

LikeJesus, you are correct in saying Jesus baptizes us with the Spirit. But Lord Jesus also commanded us to baptize other people, thereby, by water.

Matthew 28:18-20 NKJV
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

 

[LikeJesus]

Matthew 3:11 NKJV
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

LikeJesus, you are correct in saying Jesus baptizes us with the Spirit. But Lord Jesus also commanded us to baptize other people, thereby, by water.

Matthew 28:18-20 NKJV
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

I dont agree with your intrepetion,but its a process to many.God bless you.When Jesus said baptize them in the name of the Father,Son,and"Holy Spirit",that is exactly what he meant.Living water of the holy spirit.You can get baptized in the H2o all you want an it want save you.You can do all the rituals an traditons of every denomination on earth an not be saved.God bless you all in Jesus name.

 

[Faithful Son]

You say it won't save? Jesus says otherwise.

Mark 16:15-16 NKJV
15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

 

[LikeJesus]

You say it won't save? Jesus says otherwise.

Mark 16:15-16 NKJV
15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

It seems very obvious to me personally that Jesus said,he who believes and is baptized(Baptized in what?!In the holy ghost.)So Jesus did not say otherwise.Im not here to argue.God bless you all.

Acts 2:1- And when the Day of Pentecost was fully come,they were all with one accord in one place.And suddenly from heaven there came a sound of a mighty rushing wind,andit filled the house where they were sitting.And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as fire,and it sat upon each of them.And they were all filled with the holy Holy Ghost,and began to speak in other tongues,as the spirit gave them utterance.(None dipped in water.Just living water of the Holy Ghost.)

I have heard of reknown prophets,like Scott Wallis,who testify they were filled with the holy ghost alone at home just by simply asking God for it.They didnt dip in water,but were filled with living water.I had an open vision of being filled with living water in the spirit realm as a reknown prophet laid hands on me.Its happens in millions of different ways im sure.Everyones testimony is different.Im trying to remember somewhere in the bible where someone actually got filled with living water at the sametime they dipped in water.Which im sure happens also at times.But its not like thats the only way it happens.Was it Phillip that dipped the eunich in water?And then when they came up Philip was translated/caught away to Azotus?So It can happend in water,because the eunich was believen for it to happen that way.And that is great that God did it for him that way.Cant seem to think of any more examples of that happening.Worth the research though.God bless you all.

Hi brothers Cody, I agree with you.

My baptism took place in the house I live in now, two years ago to be exact.
I was fully clothed and they filled the bath until it overflowed.

A pastor baptized me and he kept on saying how honored he felt that he was the one baptizing me. I remember being very quiet and I kept praying inside my head.

Baptism is not required for salvation, that's true. But my life after baptism is totally different than before. The effect of God and His miraculous Hand over my life is extremely visible to me after baptism.

I would recommend it to anyone who does it for the correct intension, not just to be accepted by a church or group. Do it for your relationship with Jesus, first and only for that reason.

Brother Stylez, I will keep you in prayer and I will pray that God blesses you for your faithfulness!

Much love
Faithful Son

I agree with this original statement you made.Baptism is not required for salvation....And I also pray that like Phillip an the eunich,this borther will be filled with the holy spirit and living water,even as he is being dipped in the religious tradition of baptism like John did.That would be a testimony of how should I say,Biblical proportions lol.Then he could say,I was dipped while I was being dipped,just like Phillip an the eunich lol.God bless you all.Let your will be done Lord Jesus.Fill him up an set him on fire for your glory.Amen

 

[Stylez4Christ]

Thanks, for the info guys!:shade::shade:

 

[Faithful Son]

It seems very obvious to me personally that Jesus said,he who believes and is baptized(Baptized in what?!In the holy ghost.)So Jesus did not say otherwise.Im not here to argue.God bless you all.

You may not be here to argue, but you are making false statements, which are not inline with God's Word.

You agree that Jesus said baptize all nations? You agree that Jesus and only Jesus can baptize with the Holy Spirit? Then you should agree that the command Jesus gave to baptize all nations is to baptize with water, since we as humans can't baptize with the Holy Spirit.

Don't give me your opinions on it, give me the scripture, post it.

 

[Word of Life]

You do not need to be baptized in water to receive the holy spirit.

There were beleivers, whom had John's baptism who had not yet recieved the Holy Ghost after they believed. Paul just laid his hands upon them, he did not tell them to go back in the water again.

Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

If you don't want to go in water, speak to your pastor, explain your concerns to him and say, "would you please pray with me, because you want to give your life to Jesus".

Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Alternatively, you can do this yourself in your own bedroom and pray to our Father in Heaven, and in Jesus' name ask Him.

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

This will be between you, Jesus and our Father in Heaven only.

 

[Faithful Son]

http://www.talkjesus.com/scriptural-answers/5116-baptism-holy-spirit.html
http://www.talkjesus.com/scriptural-answers/5097-baptism-water.html

 

[Word of Life]

Thanks for those links Faithful Son. Are there two baptisms then?

 

[Faithful Son]

Two baptisms, both being equally important.

God bless

 

[Word of Life]

Baptism's

By reading the other thread about water baptism, I am now deeply concerned and worried and stressed up. So without cluttering up the other thread I started a new one. I know this a touchy subject, as I did a google search on it too.

If someone could explain to me about the two baptisms, I would appreciate it, and why it's necessary to have both. Surely we can only receive the Holy Spirit once.

This scripture say something completely different, that there is only one:

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Now if I pray through our Lord Jesus Christ, and ask Jesus to speak to our Father in Heaven to give me the gift of the Holy Spirit and believing in this scripture.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

By doing this, which I have done, I am assuming that I have accepted Jesus as my savior, and it's only by Jesus' blood that all my sins have been washed away. And by doing this and worshipping, praising and praying to God, I get filled with the Holy Spirit, and I have the outpouring of speaking in tongues.

Now I thank our Lord on most days in prayer for going to the cross for me and every other believer . It's part of my prayer, as I feel that's important. I also thank our Father in Heaven on most days, for sending His son to us as it's only through Jesus and his blood that I can be saved.

Now if you take for example, there are people in this world that are no-where near a church, and are no where near a man of God and that person is unable to have the water baptism done. Surely God would hear that person’s prayer of repentance from that person.

Luk 11:11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?
Luk 11:12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

I have seen people who have had water baptism and have shown no fruits of the Holy Spirit what-so-ever. In fact, I work with some. There is no mention of God, or our Lord Jesus from Monday - Friday. You talk about God, or discuss scriptures, they run from you. Literally run, and can't wait to get away from you.

Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

I need to understand this very clearly, as there are many out in this world today, who may think they are saved and they are not.

I will re-read those threads, which Faithful Son kindly supplied to me again, on the other thread.

But, I am now confused and worried, because I have not had water baptism.

 

[Word of Life]

I have just found this article, but I will also look for more and put it in this thread, as and when I find them.

Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation – The Meaning

People around the world ask this question: Is baptism necessary for salvation? The word "baptism" is a transliteration of the Greek word "baptisma" and this word is from a primary Greek verb "bapto," which is also the root of the word baptize. The word means to dip, to dye or to change the identification of. When a piece of white cloth was "bapto" into a vat of blue dye, it no longer was white cloth because its identification was changed to blue cloth. That is the root of the meaning of the word.

The rite of baptism was a ritual in the Jewish culture from the beginning. Ceremonial washing of priests and the dipping temple utensils into water was part of the law. For instance, a priest was "baptized" into his office as a priest and it was to dedicate and identify the priest in his position. This baptism set apart the priest to take part in the temple worship and sacrifices. The baptism of the utensils set them apart for a specific use in worship. When John the Baptist came on the scene, Jews came to him to be baptized for the confession of their sins. This was not for salvation because the LORD Jesus Christ had not yet paid the price for sin. The baptism of John the Baptist was an Old Testament economy baptism and it only signified the participant's willingness to confess his sin and therefore, John the Baptist's baptism was for repentance (Acts 19:4).

Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation – The Biblical Evidence

It is interesting to note that Jesus did not baptize. "The Pharisees heard that Jesus was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John, although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but His disciples" (John 4:1-2). If water baptism were necessary for salvation, wouldn't Jesus have baptized? Jesus presented Himself to the Jews as their Messiah with signs and Messianic miracles, but He did not baptize them.

The Apostle Paul only baptized a few. "Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, so no one can say that you were baptized into my name. (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel -- not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power" (1 Corinthians 1:13-17).

Those who teach that baptism is necessary for salvation overlook this statement of Paul's. If water baptism were necessary for salvation would not the Apostle Paul have made water baptism a central theme of his ministry? Rather, the Apostle Paul taught the "baptism of the Holy Spirit," which occurs when one is born again and it is a spiritual identification as the believer is placed IN Christ. "For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body -- whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free" (1 Corinthians 12:13). The Holy Spirit baptizes us or identifies us as a child of God and then seals us and sets us apart to the "day of redemption" or the day when our redemption will be completed and we see Him "face to face." "And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption" (Ephesians 4:30).

Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation – The Conclusion

Is baptism necessary for salvation? If the question is concerning water baptism, the answer is no. We are not saved by ritual or works but by "grace through faith." "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -- and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God -- not by works, so that no one can boast" (Ephesians 2:8-9). Therefore, water baptism does not save us.
However, the baptism of the Spirit is necessary for salvation and that has nothing whatever to do with water and it is not something we do for ourselves, it is God's gift to us at the moment we are born again.

If water baptism were not necessary for salvation, why then would someone be baptized? Baptism is an outward action based on an inward reality. Baptism is a testimony that the participant has trusted in Christ as Savior and they are identifying himself/herself by submitting themselves to baptism. We cannot rest our hope of salvation on something that we can do for ourselves rather, we must recognize our need of a Savior and accept the LORD Jesus Christ's finished work for our redemption. That finished work is that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and three days later rose from the dead. Then, if we chose to be baptized, it is an act of testimony to others of the reality of our personal identification with Christ.

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