Im right your wrong

[sparky]

Theres been some pretty disturbing threads in tj recently.A fairly innocent opening post can soon degenerate into a twisted and bitter war of words.Who of you have read the posts on "grudges" and "stress bucket"and felt at least a bit guilty,i know i have.If you dont i suggest you go and read them again with an open heart and prayerfully consider the words.I know sometimes if i read a post i disagree with and dont reply to it,it somehow feels it validates the other persons argument through my silence.Is this the case?Of course not!if we believe the holy spirit is present here at tj the truth will always out.Its better you not write a post at all than write one with the wrong attitude.In hindsight theres several posts i have written that i wished i had not ,instead waited until i was in a better frame of mind.

This situation has not just suddenly appeared,it has been slowly getting worse over a period of time and come to a head.Its interesting to see the very pious answers and apologies many have made in the past and continue to make.At what point are your words going to have meaning and you actually readress your attitude?As for me im having a short break from tj to try and get things in perspective,i try and come here for spiritual nourishment not to get angry.

Chad if i have added to your stress then i sincerely apologise.Those who are as guilty as me(and you know who you are)lets put a stop to this now.We dont need a quick fix lets all pretend to be the best of friends situation we need to be able to go forward together with Christ as our bonding cement.
The worst of it is that those who bicker are nearly all"mature"christians who should be sharing there knowledge with new ones,lets now make that our goal.

Matthew 18v1-10

 

[lnrobar]

"Father please forgive me for I cannot compose...The fear that lives within me or the rate at which it grows...If struggle has a purpose on the narrow road you've carved...Why do I dread my trespasses..Will leave a deadly scar?"

For all the times I have been missunderstood....I am sorry!!!

xxx

I do not want to seem like a copycat, but I too apolgize for anything I may have said out of the way of the Lord, and apologize to anyone I may have misguided, or if I have offended anyone. I do not want any hard feelings against me or anyone else. This is a place for us to rejoice in God.
God Bless
Sis in Christ
Lnrobar

 

[Bobinfaith]

I do not want to seem like a copycat, but I too apolgize for anything I may have said out of the way of the Lord, and apologize to anyone I may have misguided, or if I have offended anyone. I do not want any hard feelings against me or anyone else. This is a place for us to rejoice in God.
God Bless
Sis in Christ
Lnrobar

Dear Lnrobar, Sparky, and Strypes,

Yes, I love you guys, I really do, and hear what you all are saying. Thank you for submitting this thread topic. This is the opportunity that God gives us when we read disturbing threads, posts, and witness combativeness in Live Chat. Where is Christ in all this? Where is discipline? Many do not come here prayerfully, and it shows. Many are not readers of the Word and it shows. Many log on to Talk Jesus and their flesh becomes stimulated to argue someone's thread that is biblical and especially UNBIBLICAL to the point that they compromise God's Word and lose their composure as a Christian - LOVE, open heartness, UNFORGIVENESS attitude, it shows.

I remember when I faced my dark side at TALK JESUS back in January. I am a despicable sinner. Lord have mercy had I received the same scorn that I have read from some of the posts here from stand up Christians! I definitely would not have felt the LOVE and forgiveness of Jesus Christ if it was not for the individuals who are disciplined in the Word and excercised the firm but gentle character,
being of Christ. I felt the freedom of repentance and was given another stepping stone of maturing spirituality, and not repeating my mistake ever again. Now, that is light! It encouraged me and prepared me to be the same in character for the next brother or sister who falls from lack of Christlikeness or blinded by the worldly ways.

We must remember we all have our share of struggles, discouragements, and gruesome situations. We have not mastered Jesus Christ. As Christians this will not be a "free ride", or a "cruise ministry", or a "free ticket" to heaven.

How many have read Before We Enter Talk Jesus? A little more than 15% of 3450 members http://www.talkjesus.com/showthread.php?t=895

I submitted this thread but that is not the point! Many threads submitted by our brothers and sisters at Talk Jesus with the same gentle message of encouragement to fellowship, grow in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and then Go, and make disciples of all nations. Let it start with your home, church, work, the outside community, and Talk Jesus.

For many of us, God sent us here to minister in high and low tides. He uses everyone - reinforcements, according to their availability. God uses every source and those willing to serve at Talk Jesus.

Please read and meditate on Matthew 24:9-14, "Then you will be handed over and persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."

The more I read the Word, the more I pray on my knees daily, the more I commune with our Father, the more I am prepared to log on to Talk Jesus. I am not saying I am perfect when I enter but am more prepared for whatever comes across my path, I will focus on Him in the forums or Live Chat. There is much to be done here. I have no regrets.

Ephesians 6:7, Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men"

Then murmur not, if toils obscure, and thorny paths be thine; To God be true-they shall secure, The joy of life divine.

Lnrobar, Praise His wonderful name! We can still Rejoice in God because of the peace and calm He gives us.

Your servant in Christ Jesus.

 

[Chad]

I'm glad to see some humble themselves and take note to the recent issues. This will lead to great glory to GOD as we all grow and mature in Christ Jesus

 

[slugger165]

Spakry that is the truest post on here. And I appologize for anything I might have said to anyone. I know that i tend to get a lil sarcastic. So.....if i offended anyone I an truely and deeply sorry. But also remember those that appologized and that do appologize. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!! SO dont just say it. DO it.

Thank you sparky.
Your bro in Christ.

Sluggy

 

[HistoryMaker]

As Inrobar said, I don't want to be a copy cat either, but I've wanted to also say this. I'm very sorry if I have hurt anyone here. I would never, nor would I want to do it. Please forgive me for doing so, if I have. Also, if you have a problem with me, please come to me. It's biblical to do so. Matthew 18:15-20 says it. Again, please forgive me if I have done wrong.

History(Lisha)

 

[YourPastorT]

Sparky,

You have shown to me an attitude of Humility and repentance in many of your post. I, like others, love and care for you and the other members of this forum. However, it is clear that not all of the members are at the same point in their walk, and that is ok. I have read every post you have made, and it has saddened me as well that many have not responded who probably should. We would all do well to remember what Ezekiel wrote:

Eze 1:28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

We can see that Ezekiel had the right attitude and it showed in His physical position. As Men and Women of God we should find ourselves on our face daily before God. Yet, many here come across as prideful, we must pray for them, and help them. As we and they grow together. I encourage each of us, pray and read God's Word before you enter Talk Jesus.

We must be sensitive to the Holy Spirit and only stand up when he tells us to.

Eze 2:1 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee.

Then be confident in what we say.

Eze 2:2 And the spirit entered into me when he spake unto me, and set me upon my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me.

We can see an order here, first we humble ourselves, this is the only reaction we can have in the presence of HOLY GOD. I fear that many of us, have grown arrogant and prideful, of what we think is knowledge, and our position here or in the Kingdom.
All please understand this, I do not enjoy this. But I feel I must post what God has layed on my heart. As I read these verses I saw Talk Jesus.

Eze 2:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.

God has sent me and many others, here to grow and to help others grow.
Why? We are sinners and it is our nature.

Eze 2:4 For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 2:5 And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they are a rebellious house,) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them.

Eze 2:6 And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.
Eze 2:7 And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious.
Eze 2:8 But thou, son of man, hear what I say unto thee; Be not thou rebellious like that rebellious house: open thy mouth, and eat that I give thee.

I do not fear man, but only my Lord, who loves me and so chasteneth me. Do not think yourself above God oh people who read this, be you a Moderator, Senior Member, Member, Junior Member, or New Member. Our arrogance is an abomination to the Lord.

Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

The ones who have posted here today have done justly, yet many who should have not.
I do not know the cost of this post, but I do know the cost of not posting it.
But I stand as Isaiah did and say, "Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts."
Because of this, I must post this.

In Christ Service
Your Pastor T

 

[Mike]

To all the brothers and sisters at TalkJesus . I myself have been in the mix of some harsh realities here at T.J. ! My intentions were never meant to hurt anyone here , but rather to expose some shameful intruders sent here by satan to bring TalkJesus down , and out , with the topics that were being planned and planted in the threads to play on our love , and forgiveness towards them in the Lord . If anyone remembers , I was going to leave TalkJesus , to move forward in my own ministry . Our loving , and protecting Father in heaven , allowed some things to come to light about the enemy , and I called Chad immediately . When Chad and I talked about the best way to deal with what the Lord had done to protect the vision of TalkJesus , I told him that what had to be done was going to cost me my respect , and reputation here at T.J. ! One servant had to be the bad guy , and stir the mix so the imposter's would be obvious in open ! That was me !

Now after all is said and done , I am left here without friends I have made , and many are still wondering what and who I am in the Lord . I have alway's served the Lord at a great cost of my personal feeling's . Again , the Lord asked me to lay down my feeling's , and do what he has called me to . I know that I have made many of my family here at T.J. feel uneasy , and down right insulted in the past . But I tell you the truth before my Father in heaven . Faced with the same circumstances that were before Chad at the time , and the price it would have cost to reveal satan in this place . I WOULD DO IT ALL AGAIN !!! I hate being the bad guy , but I will do anything in the Lords name to protect his flock . So in ending , I would like to say , If you were and are offended by me in the past , I am sorry for that . But I would also say to those who were offended . You probably will be offended by me again . Whatever the cost to my own life , I will pay it for my Father . GBU Mike

 

[sparky]

Thankyou so much to all who have so far replied to this thread.My intention was never to "name and shame" but to see who would humble themselves before God and their fellow members.There is posts contained from some who in my opinion are pretty much blameless yet still they have apologised.Is this not a shining example to us all?There is many here with an astounding biblical knowledge but it is often those with a simple grasp of the word who make the more poignant comments and observations.

My soul has been grieved by some of the exchanges over the last couple of months,not only because i have been involved in some but also for another reason.
I mentaly stood back from tj and tried to look through the eyes of someone visiting for the first time.I didnt like what i saw one bit.The majority of spiritual food at tj is uplifting but what are the chances a new one stumbled accross a thread containing bickering,arguing and name calling?I do not want the stumbling of a innocent on my concience.

I am not naive to think that all of a sudden peace and harmony are going to rule at tj.We will continue to have disagreements and at times opposing veiws.I pray that all of us in the future can handle this in a different manner.If you feel stongly about a certain matter that could either be misconstrued or considered offensive in open forum go to your brother or sister in pm.We often feel that our words need to be heard by all but that is just vanity speaking ,truth seeks vindication not individuals.Brothers and sisters these words come from my heart and i pray we can continue in peace.

Matthew 19v30

 

[HistoryMaker]

This verse popped into my head here:

"Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable- if anything is excellent or praiseworthy- think about such things."
Philippians 4:8

I'm not judging anyone here, and yes, I know I slip also, but we all need to remember that verse. As Paul tells us, we need to think about such things. To help me remember all of the great things in this verse ( true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable, excellent, praiseworthy) I typed them up in different fonts, and taped them to my computer monitor, so each time I chat on line, or on the phone, I see them in front of me. I'm human, you're all human, but we really need to remember them, whatever we say, whatever our actions are.

In Christ,
History

 

[Chad]

That's a great piece of Scripture you quoted History. Thank you!

I will try to memorize that particular one. Its very simple, straightforward and effective if put into action. That is what I certainly learned the past few years. Praise GOD!

 

[Peanut]

.......There is posts contained from some who in my opinion are pretty much blameless yet still they have apologised.Is this not a shining example to us all?There is many here with an astounding biblical knowledge but it is often those with a simple grasp of the word who make the more poignant comments and observations.

I mentaly stood back from tj and tried to look through the eyes of someone visiting for the first time.....

I'm relatively new here. I came on in the midst of a battle and was a bit taken aback by the amount of pride and arrogance oozing from some of the people here.

I read a lot of pride-filled apologies:

"I'm sorry but....
*it's not my fault*
*you made me do it*
*so and so happened that made me*
*I'm so godly, I just let XXXXX get to me*

An apology with a defense/rationalization doesn't seem so humble. Sounds more like an excuse.

All the Scriptural head knowledge in the world doesn't make up for a hard heart.

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

But I was also amazed by the graciousness of those who appeared to be innocents who were unjustly attacked. The graciousness being that though they seemingly did nothing wrong that I could see, they apologized! Through their hurt and betrayal, they put aside their selves!
I saw Christ in there! May the Lord help me to remember that!

 

[Jesuslovesu]

I have to say that I also dont want to appear like a "copy cat" . I have said I am sorry in another thread and I will place it here also. Words can hurt and we need to be accountable for what we say. I am sorry if my words have evr offended any of my brothers and sisters in Christ. I am not sorry if my words teach truth and someone who is wordly finds offense!

I am glad to see the healing at talk Jesus! It is sad though when people try and re-hatch issues and point fingers. That needs to stop! We can not tell who is being truthfull on our own so please all my brothers and sisters pray for discernment in these matters. I love you all! Your sister in Christ ~ Bobbie

 

[Chad]

Amen peanut. GOD is starting to make some powerful changes and happenings at Talk Jesus. I had to get strict on these matters myself, and make way for the LORD