interesting article

[Dave M]

Why Christians Should Stop Bullying Other Christians into Wearing Masks By Chelsea Comadoll | TRINICY.org www.trinicy.org just one quote I thought interesting "Considering that scientists right now are telling us that our children need to be masked despite the evidence that children are not spreaders of the virus and that Americans will need to continue wearing masks even after being vaccinated, I see no reason to condemn Christians who are skeptical of the politically-motivated government overreach regarding masks. Likewise, I see no reason to put a blind faith in the government’s will to “do the right thing.”

 

[Brad Huber]

Mask mandates are for the most part a control mechanism. The virus is real and someone with underlying health issues can die from it, but we were all smart enough to not visit grandma when we were feeling sick and if we had to go out, and had to sneeze or cough, we were taught to cover our mouth. Washing our hands more often, and using the same respect nowdays would have been fine.

 

[Dave M]

I do hate to see christians being divided about a stupid mask, just wait until they divide us even more because some like me will refuse the vaccine.. small steps of dividing the country in every way possible has been happening since 2008, by the time the mark of the beast shows up, the divide will be so great people will truly believe you deserve to die if you dont take the mark.

 

[Brad Huber]

So you think we should submit ourselves to the whims of others to gain more control over our lives? Or is it just with masks?

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear Brother Dave,
Thanks for sharing. Nice article. I particularly liked the links she provided to references she used.
My personal thought on the wearing of masks and the church, is that you abide by what the leadership puts in place for you to follow. If you're willing to adhere to the teachings you are being provided from the pulpit of the church, then following the policies that they put in place as it pertains the mask wearing should not be a problem.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Some quotes from the article that I liked.

The truth is, we now have a vaccine to protect anyone who feels at risk or afraid. Sadly, that vaccine won’t protect Christians from their fear. The truth is, I am not responsible for someone else’s fear when I pose no threat to them. I am not responsible for protecting someone else from a threat that I do not pose.

One last note on politicization: Lots of Christians are full scale “against being political.” I hate to break it to you, but everything has been made political, and there is no avoiding it. Christianity is political. Being pro-life is political. Being pro-traditional marriage is political. Every Biblical belief that you hold is political, and every political belief you hold is mentioned somewhere in the Bible.

If your conviction is to wear the mask out of respect for those around you when you are a totally healthy human being, then please continue to do so. As with any issue in the church, congregants have different convictions (for example, some Christians abstain from alcohol out of conviction, and some do not share the same conviction). Those differences and disagreements should not divide us.

 

[Brad Huber]

Dear Brother Dave,
Thanks for sharing. Nice article. I particularly liked the links she provided to references she used.
My personal thought on the wearing of masks and the church, is that you abide by what the leadership puts in place for you to follow. If you're willing to adhere to the teachings you are being provided from the pulpit of the church, then following the policies that they put in place as it pertains the mask wearing should not be a problem.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Some quotes from the article that I liked.

The truth is, we now have a vaccine to protect anyone who feels at risk or afraid. Sadly, that vaccine won’t protect Christians from their fear. The truth is, I am not responsible for someone else’s fear when I pose no threat to them. I am not responsible for protecting someone else from a threat that I do not pose.

One last note on politicization: Lots of Christians are full scale “against being political.” I hate to break it to you, but everything has been made political, and there is no avoiding it. Christianity is political. Being pro-life is political. Being pro-traditional marriage is political. Every Biblical belief that you hold is political, and every political belief you hold is mentioned somewhere in the Bible.

If your conviction is to wear the mask out of respect for those around you when you are a totally healthy human being, then please continue to do so. As with any issue in the church, congregants have different convictions (for example, some Christians abstain from alcohol out of conviction, and some do not share the same conviction). Those differences and disagreements should not divide us.

I agree they shouldnt divide us, but I am in fellowship with many who believe differently. That doesnt mean I am divided anymore than the arm is divided from the leg. Some see division simply because of any disagreement. I dont get angry that often and never stay angry very long, it hurts me more than it hurts the person I am angry at (to be angry). Now any deep seated trust is not given to my brothers and sisters in Christ pertaining to any questionable thing. Its more of respecting the others to not offend them despite my freedom. So for example, I would not tell a brother or sister in Christ, that I shot an animal that was praying on my chickens, some might question my right to end the life of any animal. So by not mentioning it, I avoid offending. But I dont give up my freedoms, even though some brothers and sisters think I should.

 

[Dave M]

So you think we should submit ourselves to the whims of others to gain more control over our lives? Or is it just with masks?

you know me better then that, not sue what I wrote for you to come up with that question, i hate to see the divide it causing because I know for fact its about control and not health reason at all. there will come a time when we will have to stand for the truth and it may cost us our life, I pray I am ready for that day. But now it is just a inconvience will gradually grow and grow into loss of freedoms,

 

[Brad Huber]

you know me better then that, not sue what I wrote for you to come up with that question, i hate to see the divide it causing because I know for fact its about control and not health reason at all. there will come a time when we will have to stand for the truth and it may cost us our life, I pray I am ready for that day. But now it is just a inconvience will gradually grow and grow into loss of freedoms,

You said you "hate" to see division over a stupid mask. That tells me those who are against the required usage of masks over a virus with over a 99% survival rate, you disagree with their disagreement. You ''see" division over arguing about it. Probably over 75% of people here argue about scripture, and while thats a more important subject than masks, do you think we are divided by what makes us different, or united by what we "do" believe? Its sorta like a glass half empty or half full thing. I am sure you have heard about the frog put into a pot of water and then set it to a slow boil. The frog can jump out initially because he has the ability, but the frog likes water, and warm water even better. But when the frog realizes his life is in danger, the heat has affected his ability to jump, and he boils to death. The water is just warm now. Shall we wait till its too hot to jump out.... or warn others of the danger? The danger of pretending that something bad happening is no big deal, until it affects us more badly is not wisdom to me. That being said, I try to adhere to rules as much as possible, but I am free now. I prefer to stay free. Speaking the truth of the matter without getting yourself in a tizzy is the way to go I believe.

Galatians 5 : 13-15
13 For you were called to freedom, brothers and sisters; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but serve one another through love. 14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

Many would use this verse to say.... Love those who disagree with you, who are submitting themselves to slavery and want you to as well. But my flesh is not important to me, the lives and freedom of others is more important than my flesh which will be punished for proclaiming the truth too often. But serving the truth has its own rewards, worth any punishment I receive. Indeed, if you loved your brother or sister, you would warn them, jump out, its a lie made to serve the master of lies.

 

[Dave M]

That tells me those who are against the required usage of masks over a virus with over a 99% survival rate, you disagree with their disagreement.

no not at all, more on the side of we should be personally responsible for our own health, my writting skills are terrible, I think we are on the same page when it comes to this mask thing. the division is actually caused by the people that are blind, the people that know care less if you have a mask on or not.

 

[DieAmartyr]

I do hate to see christians being divided about a stupid mask, just wait until they divide us even more because some like me will refuse the vaccine.. small steps of dividing the country in every way possible has been happening since 2008, by the time the mark of the beast shows up, the divide will be so great people will truly believe you deserve to die if you dont take the mark.

I believe you have a good point there! Well that won't be the only difference between us and them. I don't know that I am good enough for the Rapture. I am trying to be but am planning on the worst case scenario just in case and it will get so hard before it's all over. ( And I have PLENTY of faith in the Lord trust me...it's concerning myself that I have doubts because I do not know the exact criteria)

 

[DieAmartyr]

Dear Brother Dave,
Thanks for sharing. Nice article. I particularly liked the links she provided to references she used.
My personal thought on the wearing of masks and the church, is that you abide by what the leadership puts in place for you to follow. If you're willing to adhere to the teachings you are being provided from the pulpit of the church, then following the policies that they put in place as it pertains the mask wearing should not be a problem.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Some quotes from the article that I liked.

The truth is, we now have a vaccine to protect anyone who feels at risk or afraid. Sadly, that vaccine won’t protect Christians from their fear. The truth is, I am not responsible for someone else’s fear when I pose no threat to them. I am not responsible for protecting someone else from a threat that I do not pose.

One last note on politicization: Lots of Christians are full scale “against being political.” I hate to break it to you, but everything has been made political, and there is no avoiding it. Christianity is political. Being pro-life is political. Being pro-traditional marriage is political. Every Biblical belief that you hold is political, and every political belief you hold is mentioned somewhere in the Bible.

If your conviction is to wear the mask out of respect for those around you when you are a totally healthy human being, then please continue to do so. As with any issue in the church, congregants have different convictions (for example, some Christians abstain from alcohol out of conviction, and some do not share the same conviction). Those differences and disagreements should not divide us.

The truth is that it takes 5 to 10 years to create a safe vaccine if not longer(Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation | History of Vaccines) and the fact that we have one in less than a year means a) it was pre-planned and already available b) it is unsafe because test subjects do not know long term effects. I have always trusted the quote by Franklin D. Roosevelt who said," In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."

 

[Christ4Ever]

The truth is that it takes 5 to 10 years to create a safe vaccine if not longer(Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation | History of Vaccines) and the fact that we have one in less than a year means a) it was pre-planned and already available b) it is unsafe because test subjects do not know long term effects. I have always trusted the quote by Franklin D. Roosevelt who said," In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."

Dear Sister,
All vaccines will have adverse effects, to even death. The issue, became the fear that the populace was made to believe in. Which then led to the need for finding a "cure/vaccine" in as short a time period as humanly possible. Now assuredly when the Nation is not in a state of emergency the process for finding, testing, approving, distributing it takes years. However, we know that has not been the case here.

Was this planned? Possible, but am I concerned about it that I will worry? Nope. My Lord Jesus Christ is King of kings and reigns on High! I suggest you don't let it get to you either, because you are in good hands!

My experience with vaccines, was the Swine Flu. I was with a unit in Germany that was tested with a vaccine, before it was allowed to be distributed stateside. Three quarters of a FACP (Unit Designation), got sick and had to be isolated. Replacement personnel had to be flow in to compensate for the loss of personnel. Needless to say that particular vaccine was not used in the US What happened to all the sick personnel, is that they eventually recovered, but any long term issues I cannot attest to.

With that being said. God bless and have a good night.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Christ4Ever]

I don't know that I am good enough for the Rapture.

If Jesus Christ is your Savior, and the Rapture happens.....enjoy the trip, because its going to be awesome!!!

 

[DieAmartyr]

Dear Sister,
All vaccines will have adverse effects, to even death. The issue, became the fear that the populace was made to believe in. Which then led to the need for finding a "cure/vaccine" in as short a time period as humanly possible. Now assuredly when the Nation is not in a state of emergency the process for finding, testing, approving, distributing it takes years. However, we know that has not been the case here.

Was this planned? Possible, but am I concerned about it that I will worry? Nope. My Lord Jesus Christ is King of kings and reigns on High! I suggest you don't let it get to you either, because you are in good hands!

My experience with vaccines, was the Swine Flu. I was with a unit in Germany that was tested with a vaccine, before it was allowed to be distributed stateside. Three quarters of a FACP (Unit Designation), got sick and had to be isolated. Replacement personnel had to be flow in to compensate for the loss of personnel. Needless to say that particular vaccine was not used in the US What happened to all the sick personnel, is that they eventually recovered, but any long term issues I cannot attest to.

With that being said. God bless and have a good night.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Well I got that darn bird flu of 2008 and that was a doozy! I recovered from that after a month and I am not worried about this virus. The coronavirus is spiritual warfare and this is mild compared to what's coming. Very soon. It's horrendous. Thank you for your reply.

 

[DieAmartyr]

If Jesus Christ is your Savior, and the Rapture happens.....enjoy the trip, because its going to be awesome!!!

I cannot wait! Jesus is my Savior of course! I love Him with all of my being. I just don't know that I am worthy of Him.

 

[Christ4Ever]

I cannot wait! Jesus is my Savior of course! I love Him with all of my being. I just don't know that I am worthy of Him.

Dear Sister,
Focus more on His Greatness, and less on your deficiencies.
For none of us are worthy, but more importantly is the fact that He Loves us anyway!!!
That's why He continues to work with and on us. We are not the same now, then when we first received Him!
It takes time & patience Sister, but you'll get there as will all who stay faithful. Remembering that our suffering will deepen our faith.
So, get up and rejoice during those times, and I do mean literally, get up and rejoice, praising His Holy name and who He is!
You'll feel the peace that goes beyond Worldly understanding fall upon you in the Spirit. It'll cover you completely!
So, Rejoice!

With the Love of Christ Jesus Sister.
YBIC
Nick
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[DieAmartyr]

Dear Sister,
Focus more on His Greatness, and less on your deficiencies.
For none of us are worthy, but more importantly is the fact that He Loves us anyway!!!
That's why He continues to work with and on us. We are not the same now, then when we first received Him!
It takes time & patience Sister, but you'll get there as will all who stay faithful. Remembering that our suffering will deepen our faith.
So, get up and rejoice during those times, and I do mean literally, get up and rejoice, praising His Holy name and who He is!
You'll feel the peace that goes beyond Worldly understanding fall upon you in the Spirit. It'll cover you completely!
So, Rejoice!

With the Love of Christ Jesus Sister.
YBIC
Nick
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Thank you