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Is "catching the Spirit" biblical?

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Blessings and peace to all of my brothers & sisters in Christ. I have a question about "catching the spirit". I've been attending a pentecostal church for a year now, i absolutely love all of my brothers and sisters there and we all have a special loving relationship with one another. For years i have heard the term "catching the spirit" including in my church but as of recent i have been wondering if it is even biblical, I have yet to ask my local church that question and i will ask them but i thought to ask it here first.
 
I have not heard that term in a while. It is the idea that a heart of worship will spread. The idea is true for the most part. The idea that if someone is in a good mood it spreads is the idea behind this. The idea that if a place is dedicated to worship of the Lord the Spirit will be filled there, this idea is biblical. Catching the Spirit may not be biblical but may be true.
 
Greetings @Seeker Of Jesus

Well nothing in the scriptures mentions "catching the Spirit"

As Christians we don't need to 'catch the Spirit'

And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
John 14:16-17


 
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There are pentecostal churches that preach, that the Holy Spirit doesn't come unless you specifically ask.
Luke 11:13; "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?"

Other say, we get the Holy Spirit upon receiving salvation.
Rom 8:9; However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
Acts 2:38; Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
1 Cor 6:19; Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?

Some churches preach that if you have the fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22-23; ) that's all you need.
Other churches preach that unless you have the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 12:7-10; ), you don't really have the Spirit.

The Bible does teach that we can grieve, lie to, and resist the Holy Spirit ( Eph 4:30; Acts 7:51; Heb 3:7-8; Acts 5:3; )
The Bible also says we can reject the Holy Spirit.
1 Thes 4:8; So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.

Also, some take Eph 5:18; to mean that being filled with the Holy Spirit is a choice we make.
Also some believe that it isn't a one time event, but we must continually be filled with the Holy Spirit.
Tit 3:5; He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

In Psalms 51; David asked God not to take his Holy Spirit away from him.
Psa 51:11; Do not cast me away from Your presence And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.

Hebrews 6 seems to say the same thing.

Heb 6:4; For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit,
Heb 6:5; and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
Heb 6:6; and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.

Also some say that if you "Jesus is Lord", then you have the Holy Spirit. (1 Cor 12:3; )
But if this is true, just because you are able to say, doesn't mean you are saved.
Matt 7:22; "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
Matt 7:23; "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

Still other churches preach being baptized in the Holy Spirit as a separate event, sort of like being baptized in water. They believe receiving the Holy Spirit at salvation is different from being baptized with the Holy Spirit.
( Mark 1:8; Acts 10:47; Acts 11:16; Matt 28:19; )
 
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The question some ask is.. why didn't believers in Jesus time receive the Holy Spirit when they got saved? That's a good question. Here is my understanding.

John 7 says the Holy Spirit wasn't given to the entire church yet.
John 7:39; But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

In fact John 16 says the Holy Spirit could not come unless Jesus left.
John 16:7; "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

So then of course after all of this we see the day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2.
Acts 2:1; When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place.
Acts 2:2; And suddenly there came from heaven a noise like a violent rushing wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.
Acts 2:3; And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them.
Acts 2:4; And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance.
 
Denominations often use catch phrases like that as a hook to draw attention to their doctrine. Its a subtle form of self-promotion.

SLE
 
I should have been a bit more specific in my post, what i mean was when a person in church is fine then all of a sudden either when a preacher brings a powerful message and in the middle of it certain people will move uncontrollably. according to my pastor when i asked him he said that it happens because the Holy Spirit is cleaning a person in the inside, also is falling backwards biblical. This sudden curiosity has come over me and i wanna be sure it's biblical, i know my family in christ in my local church are sincere in there walk with God but we are just humans who very much capable of being deceived.
 
Seeker of Jesus, look at 1 Cor 14:26-40. The church in ancient Corinth had lots of problems with believers' behavior during services. Uncontrollable actions and falling backward do happen sometimes under the Spirit's power, but those things are by no means predictable and regular occurrences (see Jn 3:8)


SLE
 
I personally had an interesting experience by which I sought for the Holy Spirit and received the power and gifts and received the Spirit through impartation of men yet what I obtained I can describe as nothing other than soulish witchcraft power which led to my affliction of months of nightmares, voices in my head, visions of demons and ghosts and it wasn't very nice. Mankind has access to a kind of Earth-power which is utilized and manipulated by every false religion: new age, hindu, buddhist, asian martial arts, psychic, hands-on healing etc and dare I say it by uninformed and immature Christians as well. This is what can happen if we seek and receive spiritual power or experiences outside of the person of Jesus Christ. So I hope what I write next is not just doctrine but comes with some practical experience as well:

There are two ways that God gives life giving water (the Spirit) to His people. One way is by digging a well (Number's 21:17), where the Israelites sang "spring up oh well". And the other is by striking a rock (Numbers 20:11). Digging a well typifies digging through the "mud and dirt" in our lives through prayer so that the water may spring up within us. Then we are filled with the Spirit from within.
Striking a rock typifies having the Spirit poured out upon us, as happened at Pentecost. Based upon these types, our regular daily experience should be going to the well of living water through prayer. To drink from the well means to pass through all our thoughts and emotions in our soul and finally touch our spirit by which we are refreshed. I'm sure we all know this experience. We start off praying in our minds, or emotions, we have troublesome and distracting thoughts, we think about our problems with us and others, we may fall into self-pity, self condemnation etc, and we pray through self effort, but if we work through these things, we eventually touch the spirit, some call this 'breakthrough', and we experience life, joy and peace, refreshment and satisfaction - at this point our self-efforts cease and we enjoy freedom in the Spirit and genuine Spirit-led prayer and closeness with the Father. Most people do this in their time of morning prayer, free from all distractions. And as an occasional (sometimes) or once-only experience, we need to have the water poured out upon us, typified by Moses striking the rock.

As as generalization of the evangelical movements: some Christians think they receive the Spirit's power at water baptism or salvation, and they don't have to ask God for the Spirit or do anything more, so they never receive the Spirit poured out from above with signs as evidence. This results in a Christian who has much life and salvation but not much power for service. I can think of some Christians like this, who are very nice genuine and loving people, but they probably wouldn't be able to heal or give a prophetic word. They look like Christ, but they can't do what He did (heal the sick, cast our devils etc). As a generalization of the pentecostal movement: other Christians only seek the pouring out of the Spirit and never take time to 'dig the well' and experience the filling of the Spirit from within. This results in a Christian who has much power for service but not much life. I can think of a number of people who display signs of power or miracles, but who are easily led astray into committing sin, or are just not very nice people to deal with, kind of rude and self-centred. They can do what Christ did (heal the sick, cast out devils etc) but don't look like Him. To be a well rounded Christian and useful to God we need to have both experiences, and not neglect one or the other.

There is two experiences of the Spirit: there is the filling up and the pouring out. Every believer in Christ has received the Spirit at salvation otherwise they do not belong to Him. This is the indwelling of the Spirit in the believer's spirit (1 Cor 6:17). The purpose of this experience is so that life may be imparted to the believer from within (Rom 8:11). There is a second experience of the Spirit which is to receive power (Acts 19:2). The baptism of John is the baptism of water, of repentance. The baptism of Jesus is to be baptised in the Spirit. Often this is accompanied by prophesying, tongues, and other such signs. This experience is not for life but for service, to give the believer the spiritual power and tools to do God's work.

Sometimes a person has both experiences at the same time. It can occur at belief, at water baptism, after asking for the Holy Spirit through prayer, by having someone pray for you and laying on of hands for impartation, or through hearing an inspired message. Perhaps this is what "catching the Spirit" means. Catching the Spirit should not mean that we don't have the Spirit and we have to catch it to get it. The fact is every believer has the Spirit, every believer has drank of this Spirit (1 Cor 12:13), and this Spirit is the flow of blood within the body of Christ, by which we are all members of one body.

The Spirit has already come to Earth at Pentecost so a believer does not need to wait in the upper room and seek power from on high again. A believer only needs to ask for the Spirit and it will be poured out, a Father will not give their child a stone when they ask for bread. And the Spirit may fall by preaching :the Spirit fell upon the Gentiles from Peter's preaching Acts 10:44-46.

John 18:6 proves that people can fall under the power of the Spirit. But in this case it was the unbelievers who fell, not the disciples.
A believer in Christ should be able to stand under the power of the Spirit with full control of their mental and bodily faculties. Falling can happen to you if you have not been living right or are spiritually dry.
Contrary to the pentecostal belief that to be filled with the Spirit is to act drunk.. the bible says that we should be sober-minded (1 Pe 1:13).
How can we be filled with the Spirit and also sober-minded? The answer is, to be filled with the Spirit is not to be drunk with power from without, but to be filled from within by the Spirit as we fellowship with Him in His Word.

In the neo-pentecostal movement is a false new age /hindu spirit, the kundalini spirit, which causes uncontrollable jerking , twitching etc. To see someone oppressed by this look up Todd Bentley of the so-called Florida revival, who has uncontrollable head jerking movements.

A key to not being deceived by spiritual experiences is to know that the Spirit lives in our spirit, and is not merely a mysterious power, or force, outside of us, but is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. Every demon, false new age Spirit and angel is outside of us, but the genuine Spirit is within us. Every religion plays with spiritual forces and has spiritual experiences. But only Christians have Christ within them. Many Christians have received a false spirit because they did not receive the person of Christ, but something or someone other than Christ, as a so-called 'third person' mysterious force, and these are pagan tritheists not Trinitarian Christians. They believe in the Father, Jesus and the Spirit, but their Spirit is not Jesus Christ, but another Spirit who seems to go by the name "Holy Spirit" and who they believe is entirely separate to Christ Himself. The Holy Spirit of the bible is none other than the Spirit of Christ, who for all practical purposes is the presence of the Lord Jesus Himself with us. Any other "Holy Spirit" who is not identified with Christ, is not the genuine Holy Spirit.

Another way to judge the work of the Spirit is to look at the fruit. The fruit of a false spirit, is to make a person look and act more like an animal (see Nebuchadnezzar, who behaved like a cow after God sent him an evil spirit). Uncontrollable jerking, screaming, loss of bladder control etc are animal-like behaviours and clearly not from the Spirit. But the fruit of the Spirit , is to make a person more human, more sober and in control, like Christ. There is no record anywhere in scripture that Christ ever screamed uncontrollably, lost control, or was excessive in any way. Excessiveness and indulgence is a sign of a demon not the Spirit. A fruit of the Spirit is self-control and patience. Christ is the most perfect human being. So the more we look like Christ, the more perfectly human we will become. The less we look like Christ, the more we look like an animal, following our own soulish desires without self-control.
 
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I have not heard that term in a while. It is the idea that a heart of worship will spread. The idea is true for the most part. The idea that if someone is in a good mood it spreads is the idea behind this. The idea that if a place is dedicated to worship of the Lord the Spirit will be filled there, this idea is biblical. Catching the Spirit may not be biblical but may be true.

Could you explane to me how something may not be biblical, but true? It deeply concerns me that "catching the spirit" is limited to one group of believers, not the believers as a whole.
 
Do we catch the Spirit, or does the Spirit catch us? Please answer someone if you can. On a hint of what I believe to be the correct answer, in the new testament lessons about fishing, who is the fish that are caught by the net? Is the Spirit the fish, or are we the fish?
 
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The word is true but others are true as well it is true I am typing on my computer but this is not bibical. It is more about our mood being lifted than not anything thing to do with gaining The Spirit. I have often had my mood lifted by others. Penticostal may have another meaning for this term though.
 
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I should have been a bit more specific in my post, what i mean was when a person in church is fine then all of a sudden either when a preacher brings a powerful message and in the middle of it certain people will move uncontrollably. according to my pastor when i asked him he said that it happens because the Holy Spirit is cleaning a person in the inside, also is falling backwards biblical. This sudden curiosity has come over me and i wanna be sure it's biblical, i know my family in christ in my local church are sincere in there walk with God but we are just humans who very much capable of being deceived.

The officers that the Pharisees and chief priests sent to take Jesus came back and told them that never a man spoke like this (John 7:32, 45). And we hear of these officers falling backwards when Jesus said I Am He, John 18:2-6. We also must remember that being fill with Holy Spirit is often liken to being drunk:
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be ye filled with the Spirit.
Ephesians 5:18
See also Acts 2:4,13; and John 3:8.

Myself, I never thought a believer could fall backwards, til something happen to me about 15 months ago, some gal, came into our store and I thought I recognized her from my favorite tv show so I keep staring at her because she was modestly dress and beautiful and I wondering is it her. Than while I was pulling pallets up front, praying to God, she did something very uncommon (most customers are so busy shopping they don't pay attention to us workers, and very often get in our way) but she did everything to get out of my way. So as I pray to God asking if it was her, she came up and ask me a question (and like a dummy I never ask her who she was) but when she spoke I nearly fell over backwards because she was so filled with the Spirit. So the only answer I got from God was that she was His daughter. But I believe that it was God way of showing me we as believers can be so overpowered by the Spirit we could fall backwards. But oh how I would love to meet her again.

Do we catch the Spirit, or does the Spirit catch us? Please answer someone if you can. On a hint of what I believe to be the correct answer, in the new testament lessons about fishing, who is the fish that are caught by the net? Is the Spirit the fish, or are we the fish?

IMO it is a little bite of both. But mostly the Holy Spirit catches us. For as believers we can grieve or quench the Spirit (Ephesians 4:30; I Thessalonians 5:19) so in this sense we can resist the Holy Spirit, which would be the opposite of Catching the Spirit. But to have hope/faith in Jesus Christ as Saviour we need to have the Holy Spirit catch our hearts: And hope maketh not ashamed: because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. Romans 5:5 So even here in a sense the Holy Spirit is caught by us, but the Holy Spirit catches us and help us to accept Christ and love others. Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: I Peter 1:22. For although we are saved by faith in Christ Jesus, Ephesians 2:8-9, not until the Holy Spirit catches us as believers can we produce the fruit of the Spirit: For we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:10 For when the Holy Spirit catches us we become new creature, II Corinthians 5:17; Ephesians 4:22-24.
 
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