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God forgives Christians of their sins and sends them off to eternal bliss. God punishes non-Christians and sends them off to eternal punishment in hell. God punishes His Son, for the sins of Christians.
Is this Just?
Some Christians here say God is unjust. We all deserve to be punished for our sin. Jesus took our punishment. God is therefore unjust on Christians and just on non-Christians.
On face value, this appears to be a correct statement. But upon interrogation, you will see it is not a sound statement.
Scripture is crystal clear that God is just and righteous in all His ways. Deut 32:4, 1 Kings 3:28, Job 34:12, Job 37:23, Psalm 51:4, Psalm 89:14, Psalm 98:8-9, Psalm 140:12, Isa 5:16, Isa 9:7, Isa 30:18, 2 Chron 19:7, 1 John 1:5, Psalm 145:17.
So, how is God just in that He does not punish Christians directly for their sin?
One has to consider the following facts:
1. God's plan for mankind was to have sons and daughters in His house. For this a blood covenant / the cross was necessary. A creation would become a part of their Creator's direct family. Mankind was planned in Christ before the foundations of the earth Eph 1:4
2. God has given mankind a weak flesh that is prone to sin and He has placed the devil with us. We are from day one born into an environment where good and evil takes place.
3. God wills that all be saved 1 Tim 2:4. Jesus died for this sins of all. Every person has free will to repent of their sins and receive forgiveness or allow their hearts to harden and not repent of their sins.
4. Hell is a place of punishment, but since it is eternal Matt 25:46, it speaks more to being a home for those that are wicked and do not want to repent of their sins.
5. In the OT God separated repentant sinner from unrepentant with paradise / Abrahams bosom. As described by Jesus in Luke 16.
6. In prisons, if someone is properly rehabilitated they get a lessor sentence or are set free.
Now, lets consider an example:
Let's say you are a murderer. Romans want to arrest you and hang you on a cross. You come home and someone called Jesus has stolen your television set. The punishment for stealing a television set is fifteen lashes. Later in the day, you see a man on a cross called Jesus. He chose to die for your sin of murder. Will you demand the Romans give him fifteen lashes for stealing your television set?
The greatest act of love is to lay your life down John 15:13. For all eternity we will love and welcome Jesus in our house despite however annoying He may be in the future. It is the same with us. God expects an equal devotion from us to Him. If you think any less of a devotion is required, then Christianity has flown over your head.
You are not a Christian because you have said some magical words. Because you are in the correct religion. Because you have faith in the unseen being seen like a faith in unicorns.
You are a Christian because you have followed Matt 16:24, Rev 2:10, Psalm 51:17 What is a Christian and how do you become one?.
Conclusion:
It is not just to punish someone who has truthfully repented of their sins and are prepared to be a martyr for Jesus if it was asked of them.
Is this Just?
Some Christians here say God is unjust. We all deserve to be punished for our sin. Jesus took our punishment. God is therefore unjust on Christians and just on non-Christians.
On face value, this appears to be a correct statement. But upon interrogation, you will see it is not a sound statement.
Scripture is crystal clear that God is just and righteous in all His ways. Deut 32:4, 1 Kings 3:28, Job 34:12, Job 37:23, Psalm 51:4, Psalm 89:14, Psalm 98:8-9, Psalm 140:12, Isa 5:16, Isa 9:7, Isa 30:18, 2 Chron 19:7, 1 John 1:5, Psalm 145:17.
So, how is God just in that He does not punish Christians directly for their sin?
One has to consider the following facts:
1. God's plan for mankind was to have sons and daughters in His house. For this a blood covenant / the cross was necessary. A creation would become a part of their Creator's direct family. Mankind was planned in Christ before the foundations of the earth Eph 1:4
2. God has given mankind a weak flesh that is prone to sin and He has placed the devil with us. We are from day one born into an environment where good and evil takes place.
3. God wills that all be saved 1 Tim 2:4. Jesus died for this sins of all. Every person has free will to repent of their sins and receive forgiveness or allow their hearts to harden and not repent of their sins.
4. Hell is a place of punishment, but since it is eternal Matt 25:46, it speaks more to being a home for those that are wicked and do not want to repent of their sins.
5. In the OT God separated repentant sinner from unrepentant with paradise / Abrahams bosom. As described by Jesus in Luke 16.
6. In prisons, if someone is properly rehabilitated they get a lessor sentence or are set free.
Now, lets consider an example:
Let's say you are a murderer. Romans want to arrest you and hang you on a cross. You come home and someone called Jesus has stolen your television set. The punishment for stealing a television set is fifteen lashes. Later in the day, you see a man on a cross called Jesus. He chose to die for your sin of murder. Will you demand the Romans give him fifteen lashes for stealing your television set?
The greatest act of love is to lay your life down John 15:13. For all eternity we will love and welcome Jesus in our house despite however annoying He may be in the future. It is the same with us. God expects an equal devotion from us to Him. If you think any less of a devotion is required, then Christianity has flown over your head.
You are not a Christian because you have said some magical words. Because you are in the correct religion. Because you have faith in the unseen being seen like a faith in unicorns.
You are a Christian because you have followed Matt 16:24, Rev 2:10, Psalm 51:17 What is a Christian and how do you become one?.
Conclusion:
It is not just to punish someone who has truthfully repented of their sins and are prepared to be a martyr for Jesus if it was asked of them.