is it immoral?

[StealthCJDB]

sleeping (actually sleeping) with lets say my girlfriend i, in the same bed at night.
ive been told that its a sin but then when i bring a where it is in the scripture they usually bring up flee from sexual immorality, which im fine with. also im ok with hearing no thats wrong you shouldnt do that because its immoral
but then i ask where is it and theyre stumped
i also will then add, that we have no lustful thought ex. "man if i were married to her i would _____" or any temptation to go beyond im tired lets go to sleep that i see is a sin
but what if that isnt present. in fact what if its hey i love you, night

 

[eddieb]

dont play with matches.

 

[Brad Huber]

Good luck with your fantasy concerning your great moral strength.

 

[StealthCJDB]

i understand both of the comments, then accept them, nut then at the same time.
it wasnt answered

 

[Rev T.S.Perkins]

Let me add a few thoughts on this . I'm 54 yrs old until I was 28 I was a dog staring at 13 ! Don't rember all the names but the faces haunt me from a spiritual stand point .i wish I had waited for my wife Suzan ! How much spiritual baggage I carried from those realationships .and as far as no having thoughts while laying there ? If you throw matches you will sooner or later start a fire ! And lust is something that consumes as soon s a spark starts ! Many times Children are born by accident when nothing was supposed to happen . ? I would encourage you to not turn to man but ask God what His plans for you are .trust me if she's good enough to sleep with she's good enough to marry . Start the days by praying togather on it !..If you can stand before God unconvicted about it .it dosent matter what man says ..Rev

 

[Fragrant Grace]

sleeping (actually sleeping) with lets say my girlfriend i, in the same bed at night.
ive been told that its a sin but then when i bring a where it is in the scripture they usually bring up flee from sexual immorality, which im fine with. also im ok with hearing no thats wrong you shouldnt do that because its immoral
but then i ask where is it and theyre stumped
i also will then add, that we have no lustful thought ex. "man if i were married to her i would _____" or any temptation to go beyond im tired lets go to sleep that i see is a sin
but what if that isnt present. in fact what if its hey i love you, night

Abstain from all appearance of evil.
1 Thessalonians 5:22


Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Do not err, my beloved brethren
James 1:13-16

 

[StealthCJDB]

I like this response, and can understand it. I'll take this

 

[farout]

sleeping (actually sleeping) with lets say my girlfriend i, in the same bed at night.
ive been told that its a sin but then when i bring a where it is in the scripture they usually bring up flee from sexual immorality, which im fine with. also im ok with hearing no thats wrong you shouldnt do that because its immoral
but then i ask where is it and theyre stumped
i also will then add, that we have no lustful thought ex. "man if i were married to her i would _____" or any temptation to go beyond im tired lets go to sleep that i see is a sin
but what if that isnt present. in fact what if its hey i love you, night

I know this is a very OLD post. But who are you kidding? The Bible says to avoid all appearances of wrong doing. If it's just sleeping can't you sleep alone? I really love sleeping with my wife! There are some real special feelings we both like. We mainly sleep in bed, but God made me as a man to respond to her soft skin, and very beautiful body. I as a man and she as a woman love to touch and please each other, that's NORNAL. What you describe is either not true, or you are having a dumb dream. I sure would NEVER have trusted you with any of my daughters. Your story is a bunch of phoniness, and most fathers would give you good swift kick out the door with suck a pack of garbage.

 

[farout]

I like this response, and can understand it. I'll take this

You have ben given the best advice you can get, by both men and women. "Sleeping next to your woman" is as addictive as anything I can think of, there is huge excitement and wonderful feelings that are involved with being with her. Don't deny it! You and she are probably way over your heads already. Hope you are at least using some protection so she (when you get tired of her, and someone else more desirable happens along) isn't left with a child you won't support.Hebrews 13:4 How do you respond to tis verse?

On another thread in TJ you gave advice to a man struggling with PORN. I gave many scriptures to you. Either you FOLLOW Christian ethics or you don't. But you are sure NOT doing as Christ taught. How can you give advice and live the complete opposite? Something inside you must be telling you that this just is pretty twisted.

 

[StealthCJDB]

I understand all that is being said. Don't worry.
ive been told all my life that this is a sin and have yet to really see that it is
but then at the same time I know the temptation that will come if something like this happens,
I've already decided if at any time my girlfriend had to stay over for a reason that I'm sleeping on the couch while she's sleeping in my bed
but it's really all I won't to know is it a real sin or just good advice

 

[Fragrant Grace]

I understand all that is being said. Don't worry.
ive been told all my life that this is a sin and have yet to really see that it is
but then at the same time I know the temptation that will come if something like this happens,
I've already decided if at any time my girlfriend had to stay over for a reason that I'm sleeping on the couch while she's sleeping in my bed
but it's really all I won't to know is it a real sin or just good advice

Greetings @StealthCJDB

Sexual sin feels good, looks good, doesn't seem to hurt anyone.....
And how the devil will play on this lie

That evil foe is constantly on the prowl seeking to trip the Lord's children that they may fall into this candy coated trap of sexual sin

Don't even consider putting yourself into a position where temptation may take you.

Consider David:

And it came to pass in an eveningtide, that David arose from off his bed, and walked upon the roof of the king's house: and from the roof he saw a woman washing herself; and the woman was very beautiful to look upon.
And David sent and inquired after the woman. And one said, Is not this Bathsheba..... the wife of Uriah the Hittite?
And David sent messengers, and took her.....and he lay with her.........
And the woman conceived, and sent and told David, and said, I am with child.

And it came to pass in the morning, that David wrote a letter to Joab, and sent it by the hand of Uriah.
And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die....
..... and Uriah the Hittite died also.

And when the wife of Uriah heard that Uriah her husband was dead, she mourned for her husband.
And when the mourning was past, David sent and fetched her to his house, and she became his wife, and bare him a son.
But the thing that David had done displeased the LORD......

And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick. David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth. And the elders of his house arose, and went to him, to raise him up from the earth: but he would not, neither did he eat bread with them. And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died.
Verses taken from 2 Samuel 11 & 12

 

[Margaux]

Biblical Truth’s

Advice :

Genesis 2vs 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave (hold) unto his wife: and they shall be one
1 Corinthians 7vs 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Colossians 3 vs 5 Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

Warnings:Revelations 21 vs 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelations 22vs 15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

 

[farout]

I understand all that is being said. Don't worry.
ive been told all my life that this is a sin and have yet to really see that it is
but then at the same time I know the temptation that will come if something like this happens,
I've already decided if at any time my girlfriend had to stay over for a reason that I'm sleeping on the couch while she's sleeping in my bed
but it's really all I won't to know is it a real sin or just good advice

Perhaps, you might want to read he verses given to you. You say you are a Christian in our profile, how do you know this? Sexual in is pretty much in you, built in your conscience. Are you really saying you don't know good advice, from the Holy Spirit speaking to you? I am amazed that if "all my life" you have been told something is wrong and you still are not sure? Do you think that people were misleading you, all your life?

Unless I misunderstood you, you said you ARE sleeping with her. Are you not saying that's not true? Maybe you might want to reread your post's, as you are not being consistent.

 

[Brad Huber]

If both you and your girlfriend slept together, and both of you not only didn't have intimate relations, but also both of you had no sexual desires to do so,... and if no one else knew about it (a fellow believer), who might fall prey to temptation due to your action, then no sin would have occurred. But if all these factors were true, I am not so sure that you would be a good match. The intimacy involved in coupling can be a great way to keep a marriage close in many ways.