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Is it just a myth

Joeyjoe

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Hi
Just throwing something out here as I am fairly new to all this.
Am I correct in saying that any religion can only ever be a belief as we surely all know that outside of life there is surely nothing. Every single Scientist must know that things that go bump in the night and fairys at the bottom of the garden do not exist. This must be the same for all mythical creatures. After all its only a Myth. As for Jesus yes I get that. A real person with a massive influence with many followers but to advocate he was the son of God (A Mythical none existent being) is sure farcical at best. As much as i slightly envy the notion that we go to a better place I am yet, and will never be convinced that this can happen. If it can please advise me cos I would love to jump on that train.
I know this may upset a few here but I am looking for an intelligent discussion on this.
 
Follow the money and you'll see what "science" those scientists will say.
Everyone has a price and many will take it especially when it comes to rejecting God.

Jesus was a historical person. There is a lot of evidence that points to many people, places, and things in the Bible.
1. A lot of verses and books cover prophesy.
2. If a real person, place, or thing is named then it happened.
3. Whenever Jesus spoke in parables He NEVER used any named thing (real).

Science can only explain a TINY fraction of Creation and how it works.
Ex.1 If you saw something that your mortal, limited human mind could not explain how would you describe it?
You'd use what words and ideas/symbols/etc. to convey what you saw.
That's what some of the Christians who experienced other than natural things did.
Hollywood "dragons" are not what God created.
If cave drawing exist of "dinosaurs" exist, then humans saw them.
They can't be "millions of years old" as nature would've worn them away.

We are a curious bunch but also easily prone to emotional compromised, easily frightened, and a mob mentality even when the cause is unknown.

All of Creation screams of complex design. DNA alone is evidence of a Creator.
 
As for Jesus yes I get that. A real person with a massive influence with many followers but to advocate he was the son of God (A Mythical none existent being) is sure farcical at best. As much as i slightly envy the notion that we go to a better place I am yet, and will never be convinced that this can happen.
You believe that Jesus existed historically, but not in what is historically believed about him, nor do you accept the words attributed to Him by His followers. Correct?

You are welcome to fill in the blank areas of where you stand as it pertains to Jesus in your line of thinking.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
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Follow the money and you'll see what "science" those scientists will say.
Everyone has a price and many will take it especially when it comes to rejecting God.

Jesus was a historical person. There is a lot of evidence that points to many people, places, and things in the Bible.
1. A lot of verses and books cover prophesy.
2. If a real person, place, or thing is named then it happened.
3. Whenever Jesus spoke in parables He NEVER used any named thing (real).

Science can only explain a TINY fraction of Creation and how it works.
Ex.1 If you saw something that your mortal, limited human mind could not explain how would you describe it?
You'd use what words and ideas/symbols/etc. to convey what you saw.
That's what some of the Christians who experienced other than natural things did.
Hollywood "dragons" are not what God created.
If cave drawing exist of "dinosaurs" exist, then humans saw them.
They can't be "millions of years old" as nature would've worn them away.

We are a curious bunch but also easily prone to emotional compromised, easily frightened, and a mob mentality even when the cause is unknown.

All of Creation screams of complex design. DNA alone is evidence of a Creator.
Hi I get most of that but with all the billions of people that have lived here should there not be some type of proof of this existance by now. Do you beleive in the afterlife and ghost etc. Nothing proven. I want to believe but I am an engineer / science driven person that always looks for cause and fix. What about the thoughts that aliens started life on earth? That is far fetched but evolution and Charles Darwen, Stephen Harwkins surely has to be the correct answer.
 
Hi I get most of that but with all the billions of people that have lived here should there not be some type of proof of this existance by now. Do you beleive in the afterlife and ghost etc. Nothing proven. I want to believe but I am an engineer / science driven person that always looks for cause and fix. What about the thoughts that aliens started life on earth? That is far fetched but evolution and Charles Darwen, Stephen Harwkins surely has to be the correct answer.

In summary, Jesus didn't travel far during his 3 year ministry.
If you look at where and how far you'd see He wasn't having a worldwide effect which only came about after time.
There was no social media, email, cellphones, etc. In fact, written words on animals skins was expensive and time consuming. Romans eventually controlled a lot of land. Jews were allowed to mostly do what they want.

One document, "Pilate's Letter to Cesear"

Secular evidence:

Scientific evidence for God:

If you're expecting a "picture" or drawing of sorts b/c cameras didn't exist, you're going to be disappointed.
Given what God used and the people his general appearance can be understood.
He did NOT stand out in a crowd and could easily "disappear" Into one.

Maybe you've heard of the Shroud of Turin which has been controversy for decades.

If you need evidence to "see and believe" you don't know what faith is.

Lastly, I suggest you watch this and pursue this channel for more info. Most importantly you must be open to something you don't agree on.
 
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