Israel during the Great Tribulation

Eric E Stahl · Jun 23, 2013

Israel during the Great Tribulation

Zechariah 14:1-5

1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD(((the Lamb))) go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

(((When the antichrist turns against Israel at the middle of the tribulation and the armies of the world surround Jerusalem, Jesus will come and make a way of escape.)))

Isaiah 16:1-5
1 Send ye the lamb(((Jesus))) to the ruler of the land from Sela to the wilderness, unto the mount of the daughter of Zion.
2 For it shall be, that, as a wandering bird cast out of the nest, so the daughters of Moab shall be at the fords of Arnon.
3 Take counsel, execute judgment; make thy shadow as the night in the midst of the noonday; hide the outcasts; bewray not him that wandereth.
4 Let mine outcasts dwell with thee, Moab; be thou a covert to them from the face of the spoiler: for the extortioner is at an end, the spoiler ceaseth, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.
5 And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he(((Jesus))) shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.

Isaiah 5:24-30
24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:
27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:
28 Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses' hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:
29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.

30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof. (((6th seal)))

The ensign or nation, that will come from the end of the earth to carry away part of Israel is represented by the eagle!

Revelation 12:13-14
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child._
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

What nation at the other end of the earth with an eagle for its ensign would come to rescue the women and children from Israel during the end time wars?

Eric E Stahl · Jun 24, 2013

Eric E Stahl said:
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Zechariah 14:1-5

1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD(((the Lamb))) go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

(((When the antichrist turns against Israel at the middle of the tribulation and the armies of the world surround Jerusalem, Jesus will come and make a way of escape.)))

Isaiah 16:1-5
1 Send ye the lamb(((Jesus))) to the ruler of the land from Sela to the wilderness, unto the mount of the daughter of Zion.
2 For it shall be, that, as a wandering bird cast out of the nest, so the daughters of Moab shall be at the fords of Arnon.
3 Take counsel, execute judgment; make thy shadow as the night in the midst of the noonday; hide the outcasts; bewray not him that wandereth.
4 Let mine outcasts dwell with thee, Moab; be thou a covert to them from the face of the spoiler: for the extortioner is at an end, the spoiler ceaseth, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.
5 And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he(((Jesus))) shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.

Isaiah 5:24-30
24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:
27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:
28 Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses' hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:
29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.

30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof. (((6th seal)))

The ensign or nation, that will come from the end of the earth to carry away part of Israel is represented by the eagle!

Revelation 12:13-14
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child._
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

What nation at the other end of the earth with an eagle for its ensign would come to rescue the women and children from Israel during the end time wars?

Bambi · Jul 2, 2013

The nation was Rome.:lightbulb

Eric E Stahl · Jul 2, 2013

Bambi said:
The nation was Rome.:lightbulb

The eagle will be one of the offspring of the Roman Empire at the end of time and will be an defender of Israel when Russia comes from the north.

Ezekiel 38:13
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

Bambi · Jul 2, 2013

The nation was Rome.:lightbulb:

Eric E Stahl · Jul 3, 2013

Bambi said:
The nation was Rome.:lightbulb:

Jeremiah 6:21-22
21 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.
22 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, a people cometh from the north country, and a great nation shall be raised from the sides of the earth.

When Russia comes from the north some one will come from the other side of the earth. It is not Rome.

spirit1st · Jul 3, 2013

This already took place.
Revelation 12:13-14
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child._
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

this is when satan was kicked out of the old heaven . and is now bound to the earth . That why God Created New Jerusalem . The old heaven was defiled when they entered it and went before the LORD.
And the other part there was when Herod sent His army and killed all the children two years old in that area where the Lord had been born

Joesph And Mary had taken Jesus to Egypt , until Herod had died and then the LORD told them they could return .

revelations starts the same story over again . Starting with the birth of our LORD JESUS .

God always confirms everything at least twice. That why it can be confusing to us at times?

It ok if you do not agree . I know you Love the LORD . \

Our Bond is not in how much knowledge or understanding we have > But in JESUS CHRIST and HIS CROSS.

Eric E Stahl · Jul 5, 2013

spirit1st said:
This already took place.
Revelation 12:13-14
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child._
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

this is when satan was kicked out of the old heaven . and is now bound to the earth . That why God Created New Jerusalem . The old heaven was defiled when they entered it and went before the LORD.
And the other part there was when Herod sent His army and killed all the children two years old in that area where the Lord had been born

Joesph And Mary had taken Jesus to Egypt , until Herod had died and then the LORD told them they could return .

revelations starts the same story over again . Starting with the birth of our LORD JESUS .

God always confirms everything at least twice. That why it can be confusing to us at times?

It ok if you do not agree . I know you Love the LORD . \

Our Bond is not in how much knowledge or understanding we have > But in JESUS CHRIST and HIS CROSS.

spirit1st · Jul 5, 2013

satan already kicked out of heaven . He cannot enter New Jerusalem .

No one can enter Heaven [NEW JERUSALEM] Except those in the Lambs book of LIFE. satan cannot go there and say anything about us Ever.

Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Heb_12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

That where the LORD is Now that where we could Soon as this body dies. It very quick. Before our flesh can hit the ground we are HOME.

satan been beaten by our LORD . he done . he can only try to trick or deceive man now.

Rom_8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
There is nothing he could say about us any more. Jesus took all our sins away . and makes us New perfect spirit beings.

Yes this is us returning with our LORD from New Jerusalem to rule the earth under our LORD JESUS .

Jud_1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

1Th_4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

Eric E Stahl · Jul 7, 2013

spirit1st said:
satan already kicked out of heaven . He cannot enter New Jerusalem .

No one can enter Heaven [NEW JERUSALEM] Except those in the Lambs book of LIFE. satan cannot go there and say anything about us Ever.

Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Heb_12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

That where the LORD is Now that where we could Soon as this body dies. It very quick. Before our flesh can hit the ground we are HOME.

satan been beaten by our LORD . he done . he can only try to trick or deceive man now.

Rom_8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
There is nothing he could say about us any more. Jesus took all our sins away . and makes us New perfect spirit beings.

Yes this is us returning with our LORD from New Jerusalem to rule the earth under our LORD JESUS .

Jud_1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

1Th_4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

When satan is cast to the earth, Israel has only a time, times and half a time or 3.5 years to wait till the Lord comes to save them. This has not happened yet.

Revelation 12:13-14
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman (Israel) which brought forth the man child(Jesus).
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (((3.5years), from the face of the serpent.

B-A-C · Jul 7, 2013

Eric E Stahl said:
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (((3.5years), from the face of the serpent.

Rev 12:6; And the woman fled into the wilderness where she *had a place prepared by God, so that there she might be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
1,260 divided by 365 = 3.5 years also.

Dan 12:10; "Many will be purged, purified and refined; but the wicked will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.
Dan 12:11; "And from the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Dan 12:12; "How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days!

So we see the two halves on the tribulation. Why does verse 12 say 1,335? Because the beast will perform the abomination of desolation for 45 days.

Dan 12:4 "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase."
Dan 12:5 Then I, Daniel, looked and behold, two others were standing, one on this bank of the river, and the other on that bank of the river.
Dan 12:6 And one said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be until the end of these wonders?"
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time; and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed.

I believe we are in that time now. While there are many false prophets, false doctrines and false teachers. I doubt anyone can say knowledge hasn't increased in the last 100 years.
In the centuries after Christ was on Earth, many people could not read. Then we had the Roman Catholic church keeping the scriptures from common man. They also kept it in Latin so most couldn't understand it.
Since then, most people are educated now. Most can read now (except in some third world countries) We have the Gutenberg Bible, we have John Wycliff translating the Bible to a language people can read and understand.
We have the printing press, and millions of Bibles have been printed (guess what the best selling book of all time is?) We have theologians like Luther, Calvin, Wesley, Piper, Sproul, Tozer, etc... now they rarely agree 100%
with each other, but the point is, deeper theological learning was brought the the masses. The Roman Catholic church had monasteries were you could learn the Bible, but then you took a vow of silence or stayed in the confines of the monastery so you couldn't share it with anyone. Move forward 7 centuries. We have over 1,000 theological colleges in the U.S. alone. The Bible is printed in over 20 translations in over 700 languages!! We have missions and missionaries in over 400 countries. We have the internet. (which is definitely a two edged sword - see earlier comment about false doctrines). But the point is, more people know more about the Bible than ever before.

Eric E Stahl · Jul 7, 2013

B-A-C said:
Rev 12:6; And the woman fled into the wilderness where she *had a place prepared by God, so that there she might be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
1,260 divided by 365 = 3.5 years also.

Dan 12:10; "Many will be purged, purified and refined; but the wicked will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.
Dan 12:11; "And from the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Dan 12:12; "How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days!

So we see the two halves on the tribulation. Why does verse 12 say 1,335? Because the beast will perform the abomination of desolation for 45 days.

Dan 12:4 "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase."
Dan 12:5 Then I, Daniel, looked and behold, two others were standing, one on this bank of the river, and the other on that bank of the river.
Dan 12:6 And one said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be until the end of these wonders?"
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time; and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed.

I believe we are in that time now. While there are many false prophets, false doctrines and false teachers. I doubt anyone can say knowledge hasn't increased in the last 100 years.
In the centuries after Christ was on Earth, many people could not read. Then we had the Roman Catholic church keeping the scriptures from common man. They also kept it in Latin so most couldn't understand it.
Since then, most people are educated now. Most can read now (except in some third world countries) We have the Gutenberg Bible, we have John Wycliff translating the Bible to a language people can read and understand.
We have the printing press, and millions of Bibles have been printed (guess what the best selling book of all time is?) We have theologians like Luther, Calvin, Wesley, Piper, Sproul, Tozer, etc... now they rarely agree 100%
with each other, but the point is, deeper theological learning was brought the the masses. The Roman Catholic church had monasteries were you could learn the Bible, but then you took a vow of silence or stayed in the confines of the monastery so you couldn't share it with anyone. Move forward 7 centuries. We have over 1,000 theological colleges in the U.S. alone. The Bible is printed in over 20 translations in over 700 languages!! We have missions and missionaries in over 400 countries. We have the internet. (which is definitely a two edged sword - see earlier comment about false doctrines). But the point is, more people know more about the Bible than ever before.

I also believe it is time for the wise to understand the prophecy that had been sealed. Daniel 12:8-10

Dan 12:11; "And from the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. This indicates that the abomination of desolation will happen 30 days before the middle of the tribulation.

Dan 12:12; "How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! This may mean that Matthew 25:31-46 the judgment of the sheep and the goats will take 75 days after the great tribulation.

spirit1st · Jul 8, 2013

satan has already been cast down here . That why he roaning the earth trying to destroy us all.

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

he been beating by our LORD. The LORD now as well as us ? just rebuke that dummy and his dumb demon followers.

he can never go before GOD to complain about us it a done deal .

Act_17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Gal_1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

God really does want to teach us all things.

1Jn_2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

God not keeping anything from us now. Because we have the same type mind as our LORD in our New Creature. Much as changed for us after we were born into GOD Holy family and household.

We just ask the HOLY GHOST with a real strong desire for truth.

It is hard for us to turn loose of things we thought was prefect truth .

Eric E Stahl · Jul 8, 2013

spirit1st said:
satan has already been cast down here . That why he roaning the earth trying to destroy us all.

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

he been beating by our LORD. The LORD now as well as us ? just rebuke that dummy and his dumb demon followers.

he can never go before GOD to complain about us it a done deal .

Act_17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Gal_1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

God really does want to teach us all things.

1Jn_2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

God not keeping anything from us now. Because we have the same type mind as our LORD in our New Creature. Much as changed for us after we were born into GOD Holy family and household.

We just ask the HOLY GHOST with a real strong desire for truth.

It is hard for us to turn loose of things we thought was prefect truth .

[h=2]Revelation 11[/h] 1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles:

and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.(((Last half of tribulation)))

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.(((First half of tribulation)))

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