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Sue J Love

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Thursday, April 6, 2017, 11:30 a.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “I Do Not Seal My Lips.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Haggai 2 (Select vv. NASB).

How is it Now? (vv. 1-5)

On the twenty-first of the seventh month, the word of the Lord came by Haggai the prophet saying, “Speak now to Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and to the remnant of the people saying, ‘Who is left among you who saw this temple in its former glory? And how do you see it now? Does it not seem to you like nothing in comparison? But now take courage, Zerubbabel,’ declares the Lord, ‘take courage also, Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and all you people of the land take courage,’ declares the Lord, ‘and work; for I am with you,’ declares the Lord of hosts. ‘As for the promise which I made you when you came out of Egypt, My Spirit is abiding in your midst; do not fear!’

How does the temple of God, the church, the body of Christ, look to you today? Your answer will probably depend upon where in the world you live. And, it will possibly depend on your concept of what “church” is, too. I live in America, so how I see the church is largely fashioned by what I have seen for myself with my own physical eyes, and what has been confirmed by what others have seen, as well. Also, I understand that the church is not a building. It is also not First Baptist or Second Presbyterian, etc. Those are organizations of human making. And, most likely, they are also 501c3 not-for-profit corporations under the headship of the US federal government. Human corporations are also NOT the church. We who believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of our lives ARE the church. We are God’s temple.

So, what was the church’s former glory? Well, for one I believe it was the believers in Jesus Christ joined together continuously in prayer while they waited for the gift of the Holy Spirit, whom Jesus had promised them. And, then it was the Day of Pentecost, when the believers (not all) were gathered together in one place, when all of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and with power from on high, fulfilling the prophecy of Joel (2:28-32). And, then it was three thousand added to the number of believers in one day. After that, it was the believers in Jesus meeting together daily in the temple courts and from house to house, devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.

So, how does it look today? Well, here in America it does not resemble its former glory, for sure. Now it looks like man-made businesses, theatre, and stage productions, complete with entertainers and clowns designed to draw in large crowds (the world) into the gatherings of “the church.” Largely, it looks worldly, fleshly, sensuous, weak, and spiritually impotent (powerless). It looks compromised, demoralized, impure, and seductive. It is largely driven by human thinking and reasoning, and by human marketing schemes on how to build your “church,” i.e. your human-based businesses, and in how to appeal to and appease your customer base (the world) so that they will want to come back to your gatherings, and so the world will feel at home in your meetings, and not threatened by the old-time gospel message. Yet, this certainly does not describe every church fellowship in America.

Yet, I am speaking here of the gatherings of the church, but how about us individually? We who believe in Jesus are God’s temple. He dwells within each and every one of us who are his true children. Are we a picture of our former glory? In other words, today do we look like we did (or better) than the day we first believed in Jesus and we were filled with his Holy Spirit and we were empowered by God to be his witnesses throughout the earth? Do we look now like we did (or better than) when we were first born again of the Spirit of God, crucified with Christ in death to sin, and resurrected with Christ to newness of life, “created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness”? Or, are we a mere shell of that former glory? Or, have we gone back to our old fleshly ways, and have we adopted the ways of the world?

If the picture of God’s church, the body of Christ, comprised of believers in Jesus Christ, is not a picture of its former glory, there is still hope! We can take courage, because God is not finished with us yet. Amen! If you are burdened of heart over the spiritual condition of today’s church, you are not alone, so take courage! Jesus is the one who began a good work in us, and he is the one who will carry it to completion. Although things may look pretty bleak right now, this is not the end of the story. The temple of God, his church, can be rebuilt (revived, renewed and restored). So, keep believing, and do not give up hope. Although revival is slow in coming, we must not think it will never come. We must keep preaching the gospel, and keep loving people with Jesus’ love, and do the work of the ministry.

Greater than Before (vv. 6-9)

For thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘Once more in a little while, I am going to shake the heavens and the earth, the sea also and the dry land. I will shake all the nations; and they will come with the wealth of all nations, and I will fill this house with glory,’ says the Lord of hosts. ‘The silver is Mine and the gold is Mine,’ declares the Lord of hosts. ‘The latter glory of this house will be greater than the former,’ says the Lord of hosts, ‘and in this place I will give peace,’ declares the Lord of hosts.”

There are many prophecies in both the Old Testament and in the New Testament concerning these last days before the return of Christ, and in particular concerning the times spoken of in the book of Revelation. And, many of them are being fulfilled in our day and time, though I certainly don’t know God’s timetable in all of this. What I do know, though, is that what was prophesied in Revelation 13 is happening today, and it has been happening for some time. The beast, although maybe not in its final form, has been rising, and has been conquering nations, peoples and Christians. An image of this beast, which could very well be television, has been set up, and people are bowing down and are worshiping it, for sure. And, God is using this beast (including the US government, which I believe is the *****), as his divine instruments of judgment on the people of this earth.

One of the main purposes, I believe, for these judgments is to bring people to faith in Jesus Christ and to revive Christ’s church before he comes back to take us home to be with him. I believe America is already under judgment, and that we are presently being taken down by our own leaders and their allies, and by this “beast” New World Order comprised of the Elite (wealthy and powerful), big banks, CEOs of corporations, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Bilderbergs, etc. Americans, for the large part, are being hypnotized by TV and the internet and social media and most have no idea that they are being duped by master manipulators, and that what they see on TV is mostly fake, and is for their distraction. But, there are many who do have their eyes opened, too, and who know what is going on, though many of them don’t know Christ, at all, but some do.

I know all this doesn’t sound hopeful, but it is, because through judgment (divine discipline and correction), and through persecution of the church, people are coming to faith in Jesus Christ, and the church is being revived or it will be revived, and God will restore, renew and will rebuild his church – his saints – and he will make us even better than before, I believe.

A Signet Ring (vv. 20-23)

Then the word of the Lord came a second time to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month, saying, “Speak to Zerubbabel governor of Judah, saying, ‘I am going to shake the heavens and the earth. I will overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and destroy the power of the kingdoms of the nations; and I will overthrow the chariots and their riders, and the horses and their riders will go down, everyone by the sword of another.’ ‘On that day,’ declares the Lord of hosts, ‘I will take you, Zerubbabel, son of Shealtiel, My servant,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will make you like a signet ring, for I have chosen you,’” declares the Lord of hosts.

What is a “signet ring” and what is its purpose? The kings of old utilized signet rings to indicate authority, ownership or honor. Zerubbabel was a prefiguring of Jesus Christ, who is the Promised seed of Abraham, and the promised Messiah of Israel, in the line of David.

In the final days before the return of Christ, God will overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and nations, which is he is doing now, and eventually he will put an end to all evil and to all evil doers when he judges the beast and the false prophet, and when he condemns Satan to being bound for 1,000 years. When all this takes place, Jesus will return for his bride, his saints, and we will reign with him during his millennial kingdom during the 1,000 years.

Although I don’t completely comprehend what all this means, or how it works, or even if this is a literal 1,000 years, what I know is that one day Jesus is going to return for us, and we are going to be with him forever, and he will wipe all the tears from our eyes, and we will no longer be in these flesh bodies. What that means is we will no longer suffer, or be tempted to sin, or be subject to being ill-treated by those who are giving way to sin in their own lives. Evil will no longer reign, but Jesus will reign supreme. Death will be no more. Our labor on earth for God’s eternal kingdom will be completed, and we will forever be with our Lord in all his glory. Amen!

I Do Not Seal My Lips / An Original Work / January 13, 2014

Based off Psalms 37, 40

Do not fear when evil man
Has success in all their plans,
For like grass they’ll wither soon.
They’ll be cut off from the land.

Trust in the Lord and He’ll give you peace.
Find your delight in Him through all stress.
All of your ways commit unto Him.
All your desires from Him He’ll fulfill.

Wait for the Lord; keep His way.
Delight in His Word always.
He’ll be with you to the end;
Life eternal found in Him.

I waited patiently for my Lord.
He turned to me, and He heard my cry.
He set my feet on the Solid Rock.
He gave to me a firm place to stand.

Blessed are we, who trust the Lord,
Who do not turn to false gods.
Our desire’s to do God’s will.
His word is within our hearts.

I will proclaim salvation to man.
You put a new song now in my mouth.
I’ll not withhold your love and your grace.
I’ll speak forevermore of your truth.

 
Thursday, April 6, 2017, 11:30 a.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “I Do Not Seal My Lips.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Haggai 2 (Select vv. NASB).

How is it Now? (vv. 1-5)

On the twenty-first of the seventh month, the word of the Lord came by Haggai the prophet saying, “Speak now to Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and to the remnant of the people saying, ‘Who is left among you who saw this temple in its former glory? And how do you see it now? Does it not seem to you like nothing in comparison? But now take courage, Zerubbabel,’ declares the Lord, ‘take courage also, Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and all you people of the land take courage,’ declares the Lord, ‘and work; for I am with you,’ declares the Lord of hosts. ‘As for the promise which I made you when you came out of Egypt, My Spirit is abiding in your midst; do not fear!’

How does the temple of God, the church, the body of Christ, look to you today? Your answer will probably depend upon where in the world you live. And, it will possibly depend on your concept of what “church” is, too. I live in America, so how I see the church is largely fashioned by what I have seen for myself with my own physical eyes, and what has been confirmed by what others have seen, as well. Also, I understand that the church is not a building. It is also not First Baptist or Second Presbyterian, etc. Those are organizations of human making. And, most likely, they are also 501c3 not-for-profit corporations under the headship of the US federal government. Human corporations are also NOT the church. We who believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of our lives ARE the church. We are God’s temple.

So, what was the church’s former glory? Well, for one I believe it was the believers in Jesus Christ joined together continuously in prayer while they waited for the gift of the Holy Spirit, whom Jesus had promised them. And, then it was the Day of Pentecost, when the believers (not all) were gathered together in one place, when all of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and with power from on high, fulfilling the prophecy of Joel (2:28-32). And, then it was three thousand added to the number of believers in one day. After that, it was the believers in Jesus meeting together daily in the temple courts and from house to house, devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.

So, how does it look today? Well, here in America it does not resemble its former glory, for sure. Now it looks like man-made businesses, theatre, and stage productions, complete with entertainers and clowns designed to draw in large crowds (the world) into the gatherings of “the church.” Largely, it looks worldly, fleshly, sensuous, weak, and spiritually impotent (powerless). It looks compromised, demoralized, impure, and seductive. It is largely driven by human thinking and reasoning, and by human marketing schemes on how to build your “church,” i.e. your human-based businesses, and in how to appeal to and appease your customer base (the world) so that they will want to come back to your gatherings, and so the world will feel at home in your meetings, and not threatened by the old-time gospel message. Yet, this certainly does not describe every church fellowship in America.

Yet, I am speaking here of the gatherings of the church, but how about us individually? We who believe in Jesus are God’s temple. He dwells within each and every one of us who are his true children. Are we a picture of our former glory? In other words, today do we look like we did (or better) than the day we first believed in Jesus and we were filled with his Holy Spirit and we were empowered by God to be his witnesses throughout the earth? Do we look now like we did (or better than) when we were first born again of the Spirit of God, crucified with Christ in death to sin, and resurrected with Christ to newness of life, “created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness”? Or, are we a mere shell of that former glory? Or, have we gone back to our old fleshly ways, and have we adopted the ways of the world?

If the picture of God’s church, the body of Christ, comprised of believers in Jesus Christ, is not a picture of its former glory, there is still hope! We can take courage, because God is not finished with us yet. Amen! If you are burdened of heart over the spiritual condition of today’s church, you are not alone, so take courage! Jesus is the one who began a good work in us, and he is the one who will carry it to completion. Although things may look pretty bleak right now, this is not the end of the story. The temple of God, his church, can be rebuilt (revived, renewed and restored). So, keep believing, and do not give up hope. Although revival is slow in coming, we must not think it will never come. We must keep preaching the gospel, and keep loving people with Jesus’ love, and do the work of the ministry.

Greater than Before (vv. 6-9)

For thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘Once more in a little while, I am going to shake the heavens and the earth, the sea also and the dry land. I will shake all the nations; and they will come with the wealth of all nations, and I will fill this house with glory,’ says the Lord of hosts. ‘The silver is Mine and the gold is Mine,’ declares the Lord of hosts. ‘The latter glory of this house will be greater than the former,’ says the Lord of hosts, ‘and in this place I will give peace,’ declares the Lord of hosts.”

There are many prophecies in both the Old Testament and in the New Testament concerning these last days before the return of Christ, and in particular concerning the times spoken of in the book of Revelation. And, many of them are being fulfilled in our day and time, though I certainly don’t know God’s timetable in all of this. What I do know, though, is that what was prophesied in Revelation 13 is happening today, and it has been happening for some time. The beast, although maybe not in its final form, has been rising, and has been conquering nations, peoples and Christians. An image of this beast, which could very well be television, has been set up, and people are bowing down and are worshiping it, for sure. And, God is using this beast (including the US government, which I believe is the *****), as his divine instruments of judgment on the people of this earth.

One of the main purposes, I believe, for these judgments is to bring people to faith in Jesus Christ and to revive Christ’s church before he comes back to take us home to be with him. I believe America is already under judgment, and that we are presently being taken down by our own leaders and their allies, and by this “beast” New World Order comprised of the Elite (wealthy and powerful), big banks, CEOs of corporations, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Bilderbergs, etc. Americans, for the large part, are being hypnotized by TV and the internet and social media and most have no idea that they are being duped by master manipulators, and that what they see on TV is mostly fake, and is for their distraction. But, there are many who do have their eyes opened, too, and who know what is going on, though many of them don’t know Christ, at all, but some do.

I know all this doesn’t sound hopeful, but it is, because through judgment (divine discipline and correction), and through persecution of the church, people are coming to faith in Jesus Christ, and the church is being revived or it will be revived, and God will restore, renew and will rebuild his church – his saints – and he will make us even better than before, I believe.

A Signet Ring (vv. 20-23)

Then the word of the Lord came a second time to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month, saying, “Speak to Zerubbabel governor of Judah, saying, ‘I am going to shake the heavens and the earth. I will overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and destroy the power of the kingdoms of the nations; and I will overthrow the chariots and their riders, and the horses and their riders will go down, everyone by the sword of another.’ ‘On that day,’ declares the Lord of hosts, ‘I will take you, Zerubbabel, son of Shealtiel, My servant,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will make you like a signet ring, for I have chosen you,’” declares the Lord of hosts.

What is a “signet ring” and what is its purpose? The kings of old utilized signet rings to indicate authority, ownership or honor. Zerubbabel was a prefiguring of Jesus Christ, who is the Promised seed of Abraham, and the promised Messiah of Israel, in the line of David.

In the final days before the return of Christ, God will overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and nations, which is he is doing now, and eventually he will put an end to all evil and to all evil doers when he judges the beast and the false prophet, and when he condemns Satan to being bound for 1,000 years. When all this takes place, Jesus will return for his bride, his saints, and we will reign with him during his millennial kingdom during the 1,000 years.

Although I don’t completely comprehend what all this means, or how it works, or even if this is a literal 1,000 years, what I know is that one day Jesus is going to return for us, and we are going to be with him forever, and he will wipe all the tears from our eyes, and we will no longer be in these flesh bodies. What that means is we will no longer suffer, or be tempted to sin, or be subject to being ill-treated by those who are giving way to sin in their own lives. Evil will no longer reign, but Jesus will reign supreme. Death will be no more. Our labor on earth for God’s eternal kingdom will be completed, and we will forever be with our Lord in all his glory. Amen!

I Do Not Seal My Lips / An Original Work / January 13, 2014

Based off Psalms 37, 40

Do not fear when evil man
Has success in all their plans,
For like grass they’ll wither soon.
They’ll be cut off from the land.

Trust in the Lord and He’ll give you peace.
Find your delight in Him through all stress.
All of your ways commit unto Him.
All your desires from Him He’ll fulfill.

Wait for the Lord; keep His way.
Delight in His Word always.
He’ll be with you to the end;
Life eternal found in Him.

I waited patiently for my Lord.
He turned to me, and He heard my cry.
He set my feet on the Solid Rock.
He gave to me a firm place to stand.

Blessed are we, who trust the Lord,
Who do not turn to false gods.
Our desire’s to do God’s will.
His word is within our hearts.

I will proclaim salvation to man.
You put a new song now in my mouth.
I’ll not withhold your love and your grace.
I’ll speak forevermore of your truth.


I wish I could give you what was given to me this past several years but it appears you will be as you are until your enemies have been destroyed on the day of the Lord. Then you will be freed from the good and evil images and thoughts that come into mind.

Put your hope and trust in the invisible Lord instead of what you observe in the world that will be destroyed in one hour when the earth begins to shake violently.

Matthew 24
14: And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

Isaiah 24
18: He who flees at the sound of the terror shall fall into the pit; and he who climbs out of the pit shall be caught in the snare. For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble.
19: The earth is utterly broken, the earth is rent asunder, the earth is violently shaken.
20: The earth staggers like a drunken man, it sways like a hut; its transgression lies heavy upon it, and it falls, and will not rise again.

Revelation 18
1: After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority; and the earth was made bright with his splendor.
2: And he called out with a mighty voice, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! It has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt of every foul spirit, a haunt of every foul and hateful bird;
3: for all nations have drunk the wine of her impure passion, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich with the wealth of her wantonness."
4: Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;
5: for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
6: Render to her as she herself has rendered, and repay her double for her deeds; mix a double draught for her in the cup she mixed.
7: As she glorified herself and played the wanton, so give her a like measure of torment and mourning. Since in her heart she says, `A queen I sit, I am no widow, mourning I shall never see,'
8: so shall her plagues come in a single day, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she shall be burned with fire; for mighty is the Lord God who judges her."
9: And the kings of the earth, who committed fornication and were wanton with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning;
10: they will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, "Alas! alas! thou great city, thou mighty city, Babylon! In one hour has thy judgment come."

2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

Isaiah 66
15: "For behold, the LORD will come in fire, and his chariots like the stormwind, to render his anger in fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
16: For by fire will the LORD execute judgment, and by his sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the LORD shall be many.

Zephaniah 1
18: Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them on the day of the wrath of the LORD. In the fire of his jealous wrath, all the earth shall be consumed; for a full, yea, sudden end he will make of all the inhabitants of the earth.

Once the flesh of man has been destroyed, never again will the false prophet and the beast be used to deceive man created in the image of God.

Revelation 19
17: Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly in midheaven, "Come, gather for the great supper of God,
18: to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave, both small and great."
19: And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who sits upon the horse and against his army.
20: And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulphur.
21: And the rest were slain by the sword of him who sits upon the horse, the sword that issues from his mouth; and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.

I Corinthians 5:
1: It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and of a kind that is not found even among pagans; for a man is living with his father's wife.
2: And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.
3: For though absent in body I am present in spirit, and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment
4: in the name of the Lord Jesus on the man who has done such a thing. When you are assembled, and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus,
5: you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
 
I wish I could give you what was given to me this past several years but it appears you will be as you are until your enemies have been destroyed on the day of the Lord. Then you will be freed from the good and evil images and thoughts that come into mind.

Put your hope and trust in the invisible Lord instead of what you observe in the world that will be destroyed in one hour when the earth begins to shake violently.

My hope and trust is squarely in the Lord and not in anything I observe in the world.
 
My hope and trust is squarely in the Lord and not in anything I observe in the world.

That is wise because what you observe in the world including your own flesh will perish on the day of the Lord or before that day. What will remain is the Word of God where all men were created equally.
 
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